attack/defense stats don't matter. things like rate of fire/impact do i believe.
Second Destiny Beta Thread of 'SMiLE! The Beta's back up! Welcome Everyone!'
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attack/defense stats don't matter. things like rate of fire/impact do i believe.
You might consider it semantics, but there's a school of thought that says science fiction is speculative in nature, imagining what would happen if some dramatic change in science or technology were introduced.
By contrast, science fantasy uses futuristic or space-themed elements as props to tell a dramatic story, while not really sweating the details. The "science" is mainly a means to an end.
e.g. Star Wars has lightsabers because George Lucas was paying homage to the samurai movies that inspired him. He didn't work out a system of advanced technology and determine that lightsabers were a likely invention that would fulfill an important role in combat.
CreateNowSleepLater
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Made a video on Glimmer Farming:
http://youtu.be/Mb1A3JpD3hs
http://youtu.be/Mb1A3JpD3hs
Icyflamez96
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older russia
Twilight Gap
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iron banner is open!!!
everyday math
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LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!
According to a Destiny wiki its called The Black Garden. No confirmation which planet its on but it does fit in with the lush green theme of Venus.
MMaRsu
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Fuuuuck there is another Iron Banner tonight?
Omg I dont have my ps4 right now
.Bungie needs to announce these things at the tower or through an ingame message in orbit when special events happen or are planned.
Robin64
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I don't you think can chat with randoms.
Storm Raider
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I don't think you guys fully comprehend how cool exploring this area is gonna be
Looks like steps down there in the trenchs..
"Endless Steps" on Venus map?
Angelus Errare
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Venus makes sense since there's actual land mass there (ridiculous temperatures aside). There is no land on Jupiter and terraforming it wouldn't magically make land appear. Jupiter is just a big ball of gas. Not to mention the gravity on Jupiter would be ridiculous.
There needs to be at least a little believability in the sci-fi mang.
Icyflamez96
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Yeah I knew the name
. It's the same location in the picture I posted, just a different image.its just 62 maxed out, but i swear i (and i know a bunch of other people) have been looking for green auto rifles nonstop
MomoPufflet
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Finally got on.
Someone add me for Iron Banner! I'm Appletz on PS4.
Someone add me for Iron Banner! I'm Appletz on PS4.
You can only chat with people in your fire team.
That sucks. Most of the time I try and tell them where hidden items are.
Looks like Mercury or maybe Venus. After all, Mercury became a garden world as mentioned in the intro and this pic shows something close to the garden world.
So absolutly no communications available with your group in pvp? wtf?
MisterRoboto
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Won't let me play..arghh
buy them from tower vendors
Tokubetsu
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Listen man, you can summon a golden gun that vaporizes dudes and then disappears.
lazybones18
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Can't connect to PSN on Destiny Beta, but can connect to PSN on FFXIV
Sony pls
Sony pls
Revolutionary
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Relog until the number of online players shows in the XMB. That's what worked for me.
FamousLastX
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Just got in and was having the unable to connect to PSN error when trying to sign in for the past half hour or so, so hopefully they have it sorted out or are at least in the process of fixing it for everyone.
Team Klimt
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unable to connect to psn.
Close the Destiny app and relaunch. Also log out of PSN and back in to be safe. Worked for me!
m_shortpants
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I can't get in PSN getting hammered?
PSN getting hammered?Can't play just now so might aswell watch.
jediyoshi
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Storm Raider
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FOR THOSE WHO CANT CONNECT AND GET AN ERROR MESSAGE ON START UP,
CLOSE OUT OF YOUR DESTINY APP
REBOOT PS4
Worked for me!
CLOSE OUT OF YOUR DESTINY APP
REBOOT PS4
Worked for me!
5 planets, they can be seen here:
What is the Vanguard area supposed to be?
DaleinCalgary
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I had it up also. I guess the stores are set up for everyone the same?
I think the biggest problem that people are experiencing (yet overlooking) in pvp is lag. What may look like bad weapon balance is often times just due lag. It's been the case with every game that suffers rubberbanding/lag that low fire rate weapons suffer significantly more than high fire rate weapons.
You need three upper body shots with a scout to kill. If lag causes you to miss one shot you are at a more severe disadvantage than if you were unloading 500rpm into someone with an auto rifle. I have found that sometimes I open on an unaware opponent with a scout rifle headshot, take them down to 40 percent immediately, and still lose to their autorifle due to the delay to the followup shots. It's even more difficult against those who strafe. You will notice similar results with pulse rifles. The lower the fire rate the worse it will feel. I have found that higher fire rate/lower damage pulse rifles are more reliable in pvp.
As far as my thoughts on actual balance:
I feel like between scout and auto it is close to where it should be. Auto rifles have an advantage in close quarters and to stand a chance with a scout rifle requires headshots. In the long range scout is better but not by a lot. Auto rifle is almost just as accurate at the long range and needs a tiny bit nerf in range or damage drop off especially since most maps are close/mid range.
Pulse rifles vary greatly depending on their fire rate. I feel like they are lagging a little behind and should receive a buff to fire rate. This should make them a bit less reliable than a single shot in the very long range and a bit more reliable in the mid/long range, placing them in the space between auto/scout.
Handcannons are terrible and needs a complete rebalance. It is not good enough to have a weapon that doesn't excel at anything. As it stands it is weaker than a scout rifle, which already is outclassed by the auto in most situations. You can make it more difficult to use by lowering fire rate/adding a significant amount of recoil, and make it kill in two shots to make it competitive. Or you can go the other way and let it kill in 3-4 shots, but make it fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, the weakness being range/recoil. It needs a space/situation/playstyle that it is great at for it to remain competitive.
Shotguns: It is fine that they can kill at point blank range and I feel that it's fair because the fire rate tends to be low on these. You have tools to stay out of it's effective range if you know someone is wielding it. I find that I am inconsistent with it so I generally try to avoid using it as it is difficult to use if you are not absolutely point blank range.
Fusion rifle: This gun can vary from absolutely useless to pretty damn good depending on the stats. Ones that charge a long time are fairly difficult to use, yet those that charge up quickly are like a shotgun with a little more range. I think those are pretty underused and I'm glad that finding a good one takes a bit of luck.
Snipers: Classic Halo balance. Two body shots or one headshot. I can't complain too much since they at least removed the reticle outside of ADS making it a little bit harder to quickscope with.
Heavy weapons: All are strong for PVP and PVE as they should be.
Overall guns: If you look at the guns you will see that every weapon can be at a severe disadvantage depending on range except for the auto rifle. It works well at any range and can often beat close and long range weapons at their respective ranges.
You need three upper body shots with a scout to kill. If lag causes you to miss one shot you are at a more severe disadvantage than if you were unloading 500rpm into someone with an auto rifle. I have found that sometimes I open on an unaware opponent with a scout rifle headshot, take them down to 40 percent immediately, and still lose to their autorifle due to the delay to the followup shots. It's even more difficult against those who strafe. You will notice similar results with pulse rifles. The lower the fire rate the worse it will feel. I have found that higher fire rate/lower damage pulse rifles are more reliable in pvp.
As far as my thoughts on actual balance:
I feel like between scout and auto it is close to where it should be. Auto rifles have an advantage in close quarters and to stand a chance with a scout rifle requires headshots. In the long range scout is better but not by a lot. Auto rifle is almost just as accurate at the long range and needs a tiny bit nerf in range or damage drop off especially since most maps are close/mid range.
Pulse rifles vary greatly depending on their fire rate. I feel like they are lagging a little behind and should receive a buff to fire rate. This should make them a bit less reliable than a single shot in the very long range and a bit more reliable in the mid/long range, placing them in the space between auto/scout.
Handcannons are terrible and needs a complete rebalance. It is not good enough to have a weapon that doesn't excel at anything. As it stands it is weaker than a scout rifle, which already is outclassed by the auto in most situations. You can make it more difficult to use by lowering fire rate/adding a significant amount of recoil, and make it kill in two shots to make it competitive. Or you can go the other way and let it kill in 3-4 shots, but make it fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, the weakness being range/recoil. It needs a space/situation/playstyle that it is great at for it to remain competitive.
Shotguns: It is fine that they can kill at point blank range and I feel that it's fair because the fire rate tends to be low on these. You have tools to stay out of it's effective range if you know someone is wielding it. I find that I am inconsistent with it so I generally try to avoid using it as it is difficult to use if you are not absolutely point blank range.
Fusion rifle: This gun can vary from absolutely useless to pretty damn good depending on the stats. Ones that charge a long time are fairly difficult to use, yet those that charge up quickly are like a shotgun with a little more range. I think those are pretty underused and I'm glad that finding a good one takes a bit of luck.
Snipers: Classic Halo balance. Two body shots or one headshot. I can't complain too much since they at least removed the reticle outside of ADS making it a little bit harder to quickscope with.
Heavy weapons: All are strong for PVP and PVE as they should be.
Overall guns: If you look at the guns you will see that every weapon can be at a severe disadvantage depending on range except for the auto rifle. It works well at any range and can often beat close and long range weapons at their respective ranges.
I am putting my PSN id out there for people that have GROUPS hanging out that want to play, explore and do some pvp who have headsets and able to communicate lol. I do not play 24/7 but would be happy to tag along.
I'd prefer a group if possible
and THAT HAVE MICS to communicate. So simply add me on PSN : Chicharones
I can speak french or english.
I'd prefer a group if possible
and THAT HAVE MICS to communicate. So simply add me on PSN : ChicharonesI can speak french or english.
Treythalomew
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That Derp hacker group posted 15 minutes ago that they were targeting PSN. I can't login at all after a reboot.
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