Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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As long as it doesn't involve swords.

Why not? If we talk about GanonDORF we can't just exclude his sword(s). He had it/them in every game he appeared so far (although I don't think he actually used the sword against you in Ocarina of Time, did he?).

If SSB4 Ganondorf is based on Twilight Princess again (which he most likely is) then including the sword in his moveset would be pretty easy:

-> Sword attacks+physical moves for the various A-moves (he DOES kick you in the final boss fight in TP if you fuck around iirc)
-> Side-B replaced with the running sword slash from TP
-> Down-B and Up-B can stay (although Dark Matter teleportation would look pretty cool), maybe replace Warlock Punch with an Energy Ball.

Hell, Ganondorf could even be like Palutena with twelve different special moves. He certainly has the movepool to pull it off.
 
Two swords Ganondorf would be great, but I would really like to see Trident Ganon. He has new found relevance considering his design appeared in ALBW and the Oracle games were rereleased on the eShop not too long ago.

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Honestly I wouldn't mind Ganondorf and Ganon as two separate characters, though I wouldn't know what you would do with Ganondorf's final smash. Either way, I hope Ganon has a volley move like in the games.
 
Flame Choke is boss though.

I could see them going the Bowser route and replacing some but not all of his moves with a shiny sword.

I do like Flamechoke, but it's a bit odd to me. It can be a great tool, but it's also really easy to turn into a crutch if you rely on it too much.
 
Hmm... as hyped as I am for this, it's kind of a weird way to reveal a stage. "Here's a stage, except I'm not actually specifically confirming it as a stage!" Has he done this before with other stages?

It's just strange; hopefully I'm not reading too much into it. I'm super hyped about this being the new Star Fox stage, and it looks gorgeous. I'm also glad it's based on Assault and not on 64 yet again! (Not that 64 isn't awesome, but it's nice that Sakurai is acknowledging the most recent console-based entry in the series.)

This is actually quite a relief IMO; I've long been having a strange feeling about the stages, like we might not actually be getting as many new ones this time around as we've gotten used to in the past with Melee and especially Brawl, especially because they've got to come up with and develop a whole set of new stages for two games simultaneously this time around. As such, I've been worried for awhile that some of Nintendo's long-on-hiatus/dead series such as Star Fox, F-Zero, and Mother might not be getting a new stage for Smash 4, but this makes me feel a little less concerned about that (though I still don't think we're getting a new Mother stage).

Now I just want to see the new F-Zero stage and the new Kirby console stage, which I hope is based on Return to Dream Land! (That's assuming, of course, that there even are new F-Zero and Kirby stages coming. There must be... right?)

My friend asked me this today and I thought it was a fun question

For you, what's the best part of Smash 4 so far?

You're looking at him:
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He's literally my ultimate Smash Bros. dream/"in a perfect world" character. I always thought about how amazing it would be to have him in Smash even in the Smash 64 and Melee days (even though I knew for sure it'd never happen because he's a third-party character), and then when Sonic and Snake were included in Brawl, I wanted Mega Man to be in too so badly it hurt. I held onto hope until the very end even in the face of quickly-diminishing likelihood as Brawl's release approached, and then when Sal Romano's accurate Brawl roster leaked, I wasn't surprised... but I was still crushed.

Then as we all know, Capcom has unceremoniously murdered the character and series in recent years with all the cancellations, leaving Mega Man (and even more insultingly, X, even though Zero is there) out of MvC 3, etc... it's been a really hard few years to be a Mega Man fan.

Then finally, out of nowhere, with there having been literally nothing for Mega Man fans to feel even the slightest bit good about for years, he was revealed as one of the first new Smash characters day and date with the first Smash Bros. 4 trailer and fans around the world (including myself) literally lost their shit. (Just look at some of the Mega Man reaction videos on YouTube!) Not fucking Zero, but Mega Man. Finally, Sakurai and Nintendo were confirming what fans like myself have known for a long time, even if Capcom seems to have forgotten: that Mega Man is one of the few true icons of classic gaming, right up there with Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man. Even now, more than a year after his reveal, I still get giddy when I think about the fact that Mega Man is actually fucking in the new Smash Bros. I couldn't have asked for a better, more faithful implementation of him either (though I do still wish he had his Japanese voice, but hey, everything else is perfect).

All of the above might have sounded a bit dramatic, and maybe it is, but Mega Man fans get it. I still can't watch his reveal trailer without getting goosebumps, recalling how I felt when I realized what I was seeing for the first time, and playing as him at E3 was unreal!

For me, it's all been gravy since his reveal... a nice, downhill coast where literally everything else revealed since Mega Man is just a nice bonus on top of already getting everything I wanted. It's nice to be on this side of things for once after hoping so long during Brawl's pre-release hype and ultimately (but expectedly) being let down!

GAH THE HYPE
 
Next trailer starts off with Krystal on the ground in her adventures outfit telepathically whining to Fox to let her fight.

Meanwhile Fox is battling a mysterious foe it pans out to reveal its Wolf. Falco comes in the knick of time and fights along side Fox. Fox calls in for more support telling Krystal that its for her own good as she lies on the floor Chrom style.

As all three of them approach to collide Slippy comes running in but trips dropping a smart bomb ko-ing them all. Slippy trips into battle! Slippy is a Fox clone with his own Landmaster final smash only he is slower and more powerful. If he runs too fast he trips and falls.

Trailer ends with a silhouette of Krystal appearing behind Fox.
Krystal: I loved you Fox! But you pushed me away

Fox: Who are you?

Krystal: Call me Kursed!

-trailer ends-

I couldnt possibly think of a better way to piss off every possible fan base.

I'd take Slippy over Krystal in Smash any day of the week.

Now that Wonder-Red is out of the running and Robin is accounted for, my highest standing requests are Advance Wars Andy and Paper Mario (with a Rawk Hawk Final Smash), though all this talk of Ganonpork has me persuaded that he is probably the most significant Nintendo character not to make it in thus far. It would be a real shame regardless if Ganondorf were not substantially redesigned, but I think there is room for him to appear in both incarnations. This doesn't mean I find it at all likely; they wouldn't both be hidden away as unlockable characters, and we are only going to see a scant handful revealed from here.
 
Hmm... as hyped as I am for this, it's kind of a weird way to reveal a stage. "Here's a stage, except I'm not actually specifically confirming it as a stage!" Has he done this before with other stages?

It's just strange; hopefully I'm not reading too much into it. I'm super hyped about this being the new Star Fox stage, and it looks gorgeous. I'm also glad it's based on Assault and not on 64 yet again! (Not that 64 isn't awesome, but it's nice that Sakurai is acknowledging the most recent console-based entry in the series.)

This is actually quite a relief IMO; I've long been having a strange feeling about the stages, like we might not actually be getting as many new ones this time around as we've gotten used to in the past with Melee and especially Brawl, especially because they've got to come up with and develop a whole set of new stages for two games simultaneously this time around. As such, I've been worried for awhile that some of Nintendo's long-on-hiatus/dead series such as Star Fox, F-Zero, and Mother might not be getting a new stage for Smash 4, but this makes me feel a little less concerned about that (though I still don't think we're getting a new Mother stage).

Now I just want to see the new F-Zero stage and the new Kirby console stage, which I hope is based on Return to Dream Land! (That's assuming, of course, that there even are new F-Zero and Kirby stages coming. There must be... right?)

Every series represented in Smash gets their own stage at least one per series. So I won't worry too much about it.
 
Hmm... as hyped as I am for this, it's kind of a weird way to reveal a stage. "Here's a stage, except I'm not actually specifically confirming it as a stage!" Has he done this before with other stages?

We did have the screenshot of Kirby with starry background and rim-lighting which turned out to be the Super Mario Galaxy stage. Perhaps that one was similar?
 
Every series represented in Smash gets their own stage at least one per series. So I won't worry too much about it.

Incorrect. The Fire Emblem guys didn't get their own stage in Melee.

And Ness didn't get a stage in SSB64.
 
Sort of - our first look at the Galaxy stage was just a shot of Kirby in the sky with rim-lighting, for example.

We did have the screenshot of Kirby with starry background and rim-lighting which turned out to be the Super Mario Galaxy stage. Perhaps that one was similar?

Ah, that's true... but this one is literally showing off the whole stage without actually calling it one. It's weird, but I'm sure I'm just making something out of nothing. It's totally a new Star Fox stage!

Every series represented in Smash gets their own stage at least one per series. So I won't worry too much about it.

That's not strictly true - there wasn't an EarthBound or F-Zero stage in Smash 64, and there wasn't a Fire Emblem stage in Melee. That said, Star Fox is a higher-profile Nintendo IP than EarthBound or F-Zero... and it used to be a higher-profile IP than Fire Emblem, at least in America, but I'm not sure I'd say that's true anymore.
 
Incorrect. The Fire Emblem guys didn't get their own stage in Melee.

And Ness didn't get a stage in SSB64.

One could argue about the temple stage being a Zelda/Fire Emblem joint venture :P
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Triforces or any other obvious Zelda references on the stage (been an eternitiy since I last played it though) and the stage has a "Together we ride" remix as second track. All event matches with the Fire Emblem guys also were on Temple (although most people know it as "Hyrule" Temple I don't think it was ever officially called that on the stage selection screen), so I think this isn't impossible to argue :P

You're right about Ness, though.
 
Incorrect. The Fire Emblem guys didn't get their own stage in Melee.

And Ness didn't get a stage in SSB64.


That's not strictly true - there wasn't an EarthBound or F-Zero stage in Smash 64, and there wasn't a Fire Emblem stage in Melee. That said, Star Fox is a higher-profile Nintendo IP than EarthBound or F-Zero... and it used to be a higher-profile IP than Fire Emblem, at least in America, but I'm not sure I'd say that's true anymore.

Well yeah, but if Brawl is the precedent, then every series will get one. Even 3rd party guests got one, so why not their 1st party franchises?

I mean, we should look at this from the last game's perspective. Unless we're expecting a downgrade over what Brawl did.
 
One could argue about the temple stage being a Zelda/Fire Emblem joint venture :P
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Triforces or any other obvious Zelda references on the stage (been an eternitiy since I last played it though) and the stage has a "Together we ride" remix as second track. All event matches with the Fire Emblem guys also were on Temple (although most people know it as "Hyrule" Temple I don't think it was ever officially called that on the stage selection screen), so I think this isn't impossible to argue :P

You're right about Ness, though.

Actually, it was called Hyrule Temple on the stage selection screen. Where do you think people got that name from? :P
 
It's nice to see so many new members joining us, so hi to you all
but i dont think the arwings are meant to tell us anything lol
I've been here for like a year, ha. I just rarely post. I've always been a big supporter of Krystal joining since Adventures if that's what you mean though. Pretty sure I've discussed this with you before on here.

Part of me hopes any Namco devs working with Sakurai who also were part of the Assault dev team might have slipped a good word in for her during the planning phase but I somehow doubt it.
 
Well shit, looks like I've been calling it the wrong thing for years!
Like, almost every single day since the game came out!

I'm a total moron :'(
 
While we're on the topic of old stages, what are the 3 stages (apart from Corneria) that you want to see return from Brawl/Melee/64?

Mine would probably be Temple, Big Blue, and Great Bay. It's hard to pick only 3!
 
While we're on the topic of old stages, what are the 3 stages (apart from Corneria) that you want to see return from Brawl/Melee/64?

Mine would probably be Temple, Big Blue, and Great Bay. It's hard to pick only 3!

Since we seem to be getting a new version of Corneria, I'd pick Temple, Fountain of Dreams, and Dreamland 64. Barely even a contest there lol.
 
Best stage is back, though I don't like the Great Fox redesign. Hope they don't fuck the stage up introducing some weird change or new mechanic. Because it was perfect already.
 
While we're on the topic of old stages, what are the 3 stages (apart from Corneria) that you want to see return from Brawl/Melee/64?

Dreamland 64, Yoshi's Story Melee, and since I'm satisfied with Town and City replacing Brawl's Smashville, Warioware in Brawl (assuming there's a "Final Destination" version)
 
On a related note.

Krystal is not really a huge player in Assault so I don't get it why people are saying her name. It could be Slippy, Panther, Leon, another assist trophy, or hell, maybe the stage is a dynamic moving stage during the Aparoid invasion (which ends into the Aparoid Homeworld where you see the Queen being the boss) if Sakurai hints about missions

Don't forget that Sakurai used "angled shots" like before in Lylat Cruise to show off the ship and in Pyrosphere.
 
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