Digital Foundry: Destiny Beta XB1 analysis and PS4 comparison
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travisbickle
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Not much to hear, people are critical of the graphics. Imagine it was a PS4 exclusive and what you would say about the graphics.
nice edit, I was just going to ask.
GameAddict411
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maybe you don't browse enough, in every destiny graphics thread this get mentioned. on the bolded it is fact, its coming to the last gen consoles, and from the previews they're great versions, not there because of a cheap cash grab. when you see the graphics comparisons the gap is not that big, even other multiplatforms titles showed bigger differences.
PeregrinSe7en
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and they created DirectX, the standard API that everyone programs against!
It's hilarious people try to twist this issue to make people expecting more from superior hardware the bad guys. People are annoyed when devs don't seem to take the time to try to get some extra milage out of the superior tech, not that people on the inferior tech get something worthwhile.
Summer Haze
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It would still be amazing on X1 if the PS4 version was a little better graphically. The vast majority of multiplats so far this haven't been made with parity in mind, yet they were/are loved by millions on both consoles. So I see no reason why Bungie have chosen to aim for graphical parity.
But like some people have said, we don't know the exact reasons why Bungie have aimed for parity, but there's nothing wrong with people being disappointed that their console isn't being used to it's full potential. Nothing wrong at all.
Exactly.
And we should all be paid minimum wage. That way everyone makes the same and we're all happy.
GameAddict411
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they don't have to do anything big, just get rid of that FXAA on the PS4 version. they can use the same technology that infamous ss used.
travisbickle
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Why would they do that? they are different powered machines.
Ewww FXAA, I'm surprised that there's only a handful of people here complaining about that. For all this parity and graphics talk, you'd think you guys would talk about the worst AA solution in the market.
Personally, I do feel like they could have definitely done more with the PS4 version, but as primarily a PC gamer, it's hard to symphatize with you folks and you know why.
Personally, I do feel like they could have definitely done more with the PS4 version, but as primarily a PC gamer, it's hard to symphatize with you folks and you know why.
Night Angel
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We have come full circle.
Being primarily an economist I don't know why.
TrueGrime
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I saw a comparison gif of the PS3 version against the 360 and the PS3 version was downright horrendous.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I would really love to see the reaction if a Bungie decided not to use the extra 10% reserve from the Kinect to have parity with the 360. I wonder how a certain group of people will act about that.
IIt's really annoying to see some people talk down people who would love to see there system used to it's fullest capacity. Everyone actually wants it, even the people who have parity now, but God forbid if some want the same thing as well.
Chobel
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I know, I expected both versions to look almost the same since all the talk about "same experience".
Why is it always the juniors who say stuff like this:
When clearly this is the case (didn't Bungie even admit to it?):
And then we have this re
S360 versions:
Because they did that in the PS4/XB1 versions?
As this poster said:
When clearly this is the case (didn't Bungie even admit to it?):
And then we have this re
S360 versions:Because they did that in the PS4/XB1 versions?
As this poster said:
The Rain King
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I thought that Destiny looked great after playing on PS4. Then I saw this in the screenshot thread...
Now I'm confused.
Now I'm confused.
Maybe parity is one way only.
Asking Bungie to use different AA or something similar to take advantage of the console hardware differences isn't the same thing as building assets for high end GPUs. I hope people can see the difference between these when they bring up the PC comparison.
Caayn
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So even when Bungie isn't capable of improving the PS4 version in the given time, you'd still blame them? That's messed up.
Exclusive vs 4 multiplatform. Level size, one is multiplayer, etc. etc.
Shadowfall and Infamous are both graphically superior to Destiny, yes.
Chobel
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Why is it always the juniors who say stuff like this:
When clearly this is the case (didn't Bungie even admit to it?):
And then we have this re
Because they did that in the PS4/XB1 versions?
As this poster said:
Obviously travisbickle is being sarcastic, and I assume samar11 is doing the same thing.
Maybe it's taken for granted, but I thought the seamless transitions between outside and inside areas to be quite the achievement considering the relative lack of texture popping* while still having relatively interesting geometry in the landscapes.
*not counting the grass or decal LOD distance.
Who else would be to blame for Bungie's technical failings other than Bungie?
Maybe we're working from different assumptions. I'm coming from the assumption that the PS4 is without doubt the most powerful platform the game is being released on. Do you agree?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Multi plat, larger scale, cross gen and all that....
Looks good, doesn't look amazing. Will probably look pretty fugly in a couple of years.
aside from the 720 v 1080 fuzz and unstable framerate, they aren't that different. http://www.gamespot.com/videos/destiny-beta-ps3-vs-ps4-graphics-comparison/2300-6420320/
crappybannedjunior999999
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Bungie is only pandering to those who buy it on Xbox One if what you say is true.
I genuinely don't get this false PC equivalence people throw around all the time. A PS4 is a discrete thing. A PC is not. All ps4s have the exact same tech. A dev can optimize for a ps4. Not all PCs have the same tech. A dev cannot possibly optimize for all PC configurations. People just act like PCs are some standardized high end console or something. They're not and there's a huge amount of variance in their capabilities.
Chobel
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PS3 shadows looks like shit, X360 version not so much.
Caayn
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What are they failing at? That they can't make the PS4 version look (significantly better) than the Xbox One version where they had MS internal engineers working with them? If that's failing than you've got unrealistic expectations of devs.
ElRenoRaven
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Yup. It's insane. It's simply insane I tell you. Just floors me.
When one machine is at least 30% more powerful, games should probably look a little better on it regardless of dev hand-holding. It's not like a couple MS guys hanging out in Bungie's office have the Xbone more RAM.
Backfoggen
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I really hope Bungie keeps 900p if 1080p introduces a shit frame rate. Beta runs great as it is.
Also it's pretty funny how I didn't notice the chromatic aberration being gone, it just felt like the HUD was cleaner and easier to look at. They should put that as an option for the PS4 version.
Also it's pretty funny how I didn't notice the chromatic aberration being gone, it just felt like the HUD was cleaner and easier to look at. They should put that as an option for the PS4 version.
TrueGrime
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At using the platform which has better hardware to improve the image quality.
I don't see why Bungie needs you white-knighting them. You haven't answered whether or not you share the same assumptions, either.
Maybe you agree with the following however: Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers in the world and they would never let Sony get a 30%+ advantage.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Hmmm I don't think so... seeing as one system was and the other wasn't. Obviously parity comes due to extra time being devoted to it. So....
What the hell! Poor PS3, at this point none is going to bother fighting for parity for it.
I love you PS3, you will be missed.
Night Angel
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I heard that they invented directX. I've tried to let that soak in, and my only conclusion is that they, in fact, couldn't possibly give up that kind of an advantage.
I can never tell with the juniors
Holy hell that looks like a generational leap of difference.
Hitokiri03
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SenjutsuSage
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There's only one benefit I see of them trying to go 1080p on the Xbox One: If assumptions are correct, and they do end up having to make visual cutbacks to hit it, then people will finally start to see that a lower resolution isn't the end of the world, and is a far better alternative to 1080p with the game's graphical detail sacrificed in more serious ways than a simple matter of a lower resolution.
Cornbread78
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Well, since it's Friday and all: would you want Grey Goose or Smirnoff? It you can afford it, you'd much rather have the Grey Goose wouldn't ya? Well, that's what PS4 owners want, they don't want the more common and less refined Smirnoff that everyone can afford. They want the extra taste, refinement and aura that Grey Goose can give you...
use those terms today, it more globally accepted than using techie terms on a Friday...
the more time flies by, the better those Sam Summers are looking in my fridge at home for late night gaming tonight
Right. People are distraught that Bungie isn't spending extra time on PS4. The extra time and love for X1 came from MS giving them resources. That's free time and resources for Bungie. This doesn't mean Bungie should tit or tat on the PS4 version just because. Who says they wouldn't use Sony engineers if provided? The MS help is a variable added that helps the X1 and that's it, but people seem to want extra time and resources thrown at PS4 when the dev bandwidth may not be there from Bungie.
Caayn
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Clever use of leaving out part of my post, let me lower myself to your level.
There have been plenty of reasons given as to why Destiny is in the situation it's currently in by me, StoOgE and a couple of others. Yet you, and some others, insist on ignoring that and going "hurp derp XX% more powerful" as if it's some magical duct-tape that will fix anything.
I guess it's useless to try to discuss this any further as we'll keep hitting a dead-end. I'm taking my leave from this thread.
How many times have you posted this already? Don't you ever get tired of your own childish behavior?