"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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mkenyon

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Some of my hardware recently took a crap in my PC and the only parts I plan to keep are my SSD's and GPU.

For this new build, I plan to pick up a new mobo, case(not really needed but wanna anyway),PSU, and CPU

For the case I plan to roll with the Corsair Obsidian 750D Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

For the CPU I plan to go with the i7 4790K

For the PSU I was considering the EVGA SuperNOVA 850W. If anyone can think of something better in the same price range, by all means...

I haven't decided on a mobo just yet. I want something that doesn't really run more than $130-$140(or much less as long as the quality of parts aren't complete shit)

If anyone can find anything they would change about this build, let me know.
Planning on some kind of dual GPU setup? 750D is oriented towards water cooling, and 850W units would be for multiple GPUs.
 

Menome

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Remember to use the swab (gently!) on the underside curve of the fan as well, not just the dust on top. Made that mistake my first time years ago. Having dislodged the dust by removing half the layer, I had a cloud of dust erupt upon the fan starting up again.

Compressed air is godliness in a can for clearing out dust though, don't skip on it. :)
 
Planning on some kind of dual GPU setup? 750D is oriented towards water cooling, and 850W units would be for multiple GPUs.

No

I just hate how cramped my CM HAF 932 is. Want something with a lot of room and great cable management.

Getthing this giant 770 in and out of there is a pain
 
Some of my hardware recently took a crap in my PC and the only parts I plan to keep are my SSD's and GPU.

For this new build, I plan to pick up a new mobo, case(not really needed but wanna anyway),PSU, and CPU

For the case I plan to roll with the Corsair Obsidian 750D Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case

For the CPU I plan to go with the i7 4790K

For the PSU I was considering the EVGA SuperNOVA 850W. If anyone can think of something better in the same price range, by all means...

I haven't decided on a mobo just yet. I want something that doesn't really run more than $130-$140(or much less as long as the quality of parts aren't complete shit)

If anyone can find anything they would change about this build, let me know.

Cut back somewhat and get the SuperNOVA G2 750W if you're only doing a single-GPU build.

(You could cut back even further, but dat NCIX price)
 
Hey guys, I'm looking at this build. Would a 600 Watt Powersupply be enough? PCPartPicker only estimates 441 Watts are necessary. I do plan on over clocking a bit, eventually though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($73.90 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1164.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-13 14:48 EDT-0400

Also, how is that 770? I was originally going to go with a 760, but I could spring for a cheap 770.
 

mkenyon

Banned
No

I just hate how cramped my CM HAF 932 is. Want some with a lot of room and great cable management

Getthing this giant 770 in and out of there is a pain
You'd be surpised how open and easy to build most cases are these days. There's been some huge improvements since the days of the HAF cases. Check out the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. It's a better case than the 750D in almost any meaningful way.

Also, with a 770 in there, I'd suggest a 550/650W PSU.
Hey guys, I'm looking at this build. Would a 600 Watt Powersupply be enough? PCPartPicker only estimates 441 Watts are necessary. I do plan on over clocking a bit, eventually though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($73.90 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1164.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-13 14:48 EDT-0400

Also, how is that 770? I was originally going to go with a 760, but I could spring for a cheap 770.
Yep, looks good. With $30 more, you could double the capcity of that SSD though.
 
You'd be surpised how open and easy to build most cases are these days. There's been some huge improvements since the days of the HAF cases. Check out the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. It's a better case than the 750D in almost any meaningful way.

Also, with a 770 in there, I'd suggest a 550/650W PSU.

Yep, looks good. With $30 more, you could double the capcity of that SSD though.

Thanks, it does look nice and cost less. I'll look into it. Thanks for the help. Anyone want to suggest a mobo? Good quality and not too hard on the wallet.
 
Thanks, it does look nice and cost less. I'll look into it. Thanks for the help. Anyone want to suggest a mobo? Good quality and not too hard on the wallet.

Newegg currently has the Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H for $120 AR ($140 otherwise), and that's probably the best possible board you're getting in the price range you gave.
 

MrNCFC

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Looking for some advice and guidance on the following for a new PC which will last a few years.

Case - Carbide Air 540
PSU - Corsair Professional Series AX860i 
Cooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100i or should i go for the H105 or H110
MoBo - ASUS Maximus VII Ranger
CPU - Intel Core i7 4770K
Memory - Corsair 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Vengeance Performance Memory
GPU - Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 4GB pci eXPRESS Nvidia Graphics Card
SSD - Crucial MX 100 (512gb)

Total price before fans and LEDs is £1,230. I guess i can save a few pounds by getting an OEM CPU but what are peoples thought - I don't plan on getting multiple GPUs or overclocking yet but will consider in the future when the bank balance has recovered

I was going to go with Corsair fans with 2 static pressure fans for the rad (size dependent on which rad i eventually go for and three non pressure fans for the case - is getting the LED fans a compromise? ideally i would prefer quiet over temperature at this point

Will probably spend most time playing Elite Dangerous and a guy at work keeps telling me I should be playing Day Z and some of the mods

looking to buy in the next two weeks and build at the beginning of September but happy to take advice on any of the parts listed
 

RayStorm

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Not my pic, but I have this issue, why are there multiples listed here:
It's always been this way for AMD cards for me, not sure what is going on.

I assume, since I too have it, it's one listing per possible display output. And since the 7xxx support up to 6 displays you get 6 for that, whereas the 5570 only supports three there are just three listed.

Then reboot, then reinstall latest catalyst suite.

I assume you also have an AMD card and you don't have this, when you right click on the catalyst icon in the notification area?
 
Looking for some advice and guidance on the following for a new PC which will last a few years.

Case - Carbide Air 540
PSU - Corsair Professional Series AX860i 
Cooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100i or should i go for the H105 or H110
MoBo - ASUS Maximus VII Ranger
CPU - Intel Core i7 4770K
Memory - Corsair 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Vengeance Performance Memory
GPU - Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 4GB pci eXPRESS Nvidia Graphics Card
SSD - Crucial MX 100 (512gb)

Total price before fans and LEDs is £1,230. I guess i can save a few pounds by getting an OEM CPU but what are peoples thought - I don't plan on getting multiple GPUs or overclocking yet but will consider in the future when the bank balance has recovered

I was going to go with Corsair fans with 2 static pressure fans for the rad (size dependent on which rad i eventually go for and three non pressure fans for the case - is getting the LED fans a compromise? ideally i would prefer quiet over temperature at this point

Will probably spend most time playing Elite Dangerous and a guy at work keeps telling me I should be playing Day Z and some of the mods

looking to buy in the next two weeks and build at the beginning of September but happy to take advice on any of the parts listed

- Get the 4790K over the 4770K, you're already getting a Z97 board anyway.
- Consider an R9 280X or R9 290 over the GTX 770 - NVIDIA's kind of a bad value proposition at that level

(I'll leave everything else to someone else because I'm feeling lazy, plus the rest of that actually looks good to me... except for maybe the PSU :p)
 
Use this: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Then delete anything in C:\AMD\ if it still exists.

Then reboot, then reinstall latest catalyst suite.

I'll give this a shot. I did do a fresh install of Windows 8.1 and then reinstalled Cat 14.4 (I think that's the latest - whichever is the latest) so I know there wasn't any "residual".

I assume, since I too have it, it's one listing per possible display output. And since the 7xxx support up to 6 displays you get 6 for that, whereas the 5570 only supports three there are just three listed.



I assume you also have an AMD card and you don't have this, when you right click on the catalyst icon in the notification area?

Possibly, as I mentioned above it's not my card, I have an R9 290. Will take a screenshot when I'm home for more clarification. My question is what OTHERS with AMD cards see when they right click on the CCC icon in their system tray.
 

kennah

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I'll give this a shot. I did do a fresh install of Windows 8.1 and then reinstalled Cat 14.4 (I think that's the latest - whichever is the latest) so I know there wasn't any "residual".



Possibly, as I mentioned above it's not my card, I have an R9 290. Will take a screenshot when I'm home for more clarification. My question is what OTHERS with AMD cards see when they right click on the CCC icon in their system tray.
What cpu do you have?
 

Woffls

Member
Is it worth getting 8-8-8-24 dual channel memory at 1600Mhz as opposed to CL9? Doesn't seem to be that many options available, but the few I've found are similarly priced.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Ok nerds, since Ive decided to upgrade over getting a PS4 or Xbone due to recent MGS news, I need to spend this 400$ well but dont know how

Heres my current specs
Heres my current case

Budget is around/less than 400$

What should I upgrade here?
Yikes- are you even able to output at 1080p on whatever screen you're hooked up to? You certainly want a new GPU, but you really want a new CPU as well to be able to get good performance out of it, and that could mean a new motherboard (don't know how worth it the step ups you can do with that motherboard are). The $400 could get eaten up easily by these components, so you need to make sure you can actually play at 1080p in the first place, and if not you'd need to consider a new monitor too...

edit: Oh oops, it's just a socket AM3 mobo. I don't know AMD too well these days but there should be economical CPU upgrades to consider without a new mobo.
 

ekgrey

Member
if noise is a big concern and I want a small case, is the Define Mini my best choice? how will the Air 240 be? any other suggestions? I like simple (but not boring :p)
 

mkenyon

Banned
I assume you also have an AMD card and you don't have this, when you right click on the catalyst icon in the notification area?
I asked if they had an APU, because I figured the inclusion of both graphics adapters was the issue at hand, not the multiple listings.

Here's my workstation

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I have three displays, and 4 display outs.
Looking for some advice and guidance on the following for a new PC which will last a few years.

Case - Carbide Air 540
PSU - Corsair Professional Series AX860i 
Cooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100i or should i go for the H105 or H110
MoBo - ASUS Maximus VII Ranger
CPU - Intel Core i7 4770K
Memory - Corsair 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Vengeance Performance Memory
GPU - Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 4GB pci eXPRESS Nvidia Graphics Card
SSD - Crucial MX 100 (512gb)

Total price before fans and LEDs is £1,230. I guess i can save a few pounds by getting an OEM CPU but what are peoples thought - I don't plan on getting multiple GPUs or overclocking yet but will consider in the future when the bank balance has recovered

I was going to go with Corsair fans with 2 static pressure fans for the rad (size dependent on which rad i eventually go for and three non pressure fans for the case - is getting the LED fans a compromise? ideally i would prefer quiet over temperature at this point

Will probably spend most time playing Elite Dangerous and a guy at work keeps telling me I should be playing Day Z and some of the mods

looking to buy in the next two weeks and build at the beginning of September but happy to take advice on any of the parts listed
You're overspending big on the PSU, motherboard, and heatsink when you could get a better videocard by getting more appropriate parts.
if noise is a big concern and I want a small case, is the Define Mini my best choice? how will the Air 240 be? any other suggestions? I like simple (but not boring :p)
For mATX, the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv should be out in a month or two. If you're looking to build before then, the Node 804, Air 240, Corsair 350D, and Fractal Arc Mini are all excellent products too.
 

IceIpor

Member
I'll give this a shot. I did do a fresh install of Windows 8.1 and then reinstalled Cat 14.4 (I think that's the latest - whichever is the latest) so I know there wasn't any "residual".

Possibly, as I mentioned above it's not my card, I have an R9 290. Will take a screenshot when I'm home for more clarification. My question is what OTHERS with AMD cards see when they right click on the CCC icon in their system tray.

I am aware:

(I have a 7870XT)

It's normal. I've had ATI/AMD cards for years and it's always been like that. I also assume it's one listing for each display output.
 

Woffls

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Getting a new case, but I wish I had en excuse to drop £150 on this; performance be damned:
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It can't hurt. May as well go for it.
I guess I find it odd that, for something so uncommon, it's not more expensive... unless it's just not worth the difference. Looking at this set, but it doesn't actually say explicitly that it runs at 1600 by default... I know some have to be clocked up from 1333 for whatever reason.
 
Getting a new case, but I wish I had en excuse to drop £150 on this; performance be damned:
CA-037-IW_81098_350.jpg



I guess I find it odd that, for something so uncommon, it's not more expensive... unless it's just not worth the difference. Looking at this set, but it doesn't actually say explicitly that it runs at 1600 by default... I know some have to be clocked up from 1333 for whatever reason.

What case is this?
 

mkenyon

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Whelp.

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I knew there would be one. I knew it. But somehow in mind I thought that when I saw it, it'd be easy to side step. Time to start saving for Haswell-E.
 

BPoole

Member
Occasionally, but usually not. They're usually packaged with a motherboard. If the HDD/SSD you're getting doesn't explicitly say it comes with one included then you will need to buy one separately.
Thanks, I went ahead and ordered another Sata cable. I ordered an SSD and HDD and only have my Sata cable from before
 

mkenyon

Banned
That's a really spiffy color scheme on that MB. (I'll never buy a Gigabyte MB though)
Things were pretty iffy back in the 775/1366/1156 days, but they're top notch now. I generally prefer them to ASUS, mostly because I think the BIOS is a lot more intuitive.

I'm curious as to why you're opposed.
 
This would be able to do it in most games, but not necessarily with high settings:

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Otherwise, the "great" build in the OP is what you'd be looking at.
Actually I might just use this current PC as a little personal computer for files for work and projects and such, while I build gaming PC from scratch and hook it up to my 34-INCH that my Consoles are hooked up to, which I know gets 1080P. I know others do that as well. Itll save me on getting o new monitor, would that work?
 

Durante

Member
I'm curious as to why you're opposed.
In almost 20 years of building PCs the only MB I ever bought which broke was also the only Gigabyte one. "Ultra durable" my ass.

Of course that's not statistically significant at all (so don't worry MoonGred), but ASRock has never failed me, and they usually have really good value as well, so these days I just stick with them.
 

MoonGred

Member
hypothetical question:

Lets say you have a 500W Modular PSU from brand x, a year later you upgrade the PSU to a 800W one, from the same brand/line. When doing this, could you just leave all the wiring the way it is, and just swap out the PSU itself?
 

Ragus

Banned
What I have:

GTX 770 4GB
i5-3570 @ 4,0GHz

I'm quite satisfied with this setup, but I'm afraid that 60 fps on games like Witcher 3 will simply not be an option. Now, what should I do:

a)upgrade CPU
b)add another 770 to my MOBO?
 

The Llama

Member
What I have:

GTX 770 4GB
i5-3570 @ 4,0GHz

I'm quite satisfied with this setup, but I'm afraid that 60 fps on games like Witcher 3 will simply not be an option. Now, what should I do:

a)upgrade CPU
b)add another 770 to my MOBO?

c) nothing until games like The Witcher that may not run at 60fps on your setup are actually released
 

Durante

Member
hypothetical question:

Lets say you have a 500W Modular PSU from brand x, a year later you upgrade the PSU to a 800W one, from the same brand/line. When doing this, could you just leave all the wiring the way it is, and just swap out the PSU itself?
If the two models use the same connectors, then sure, why not.

What I have:

GTX 770 4GB
i5-3570 @ 4,0GHz

I'm quite satisfied with this setup, but I'm afraid that 60 fps on games like Witcher 3 will simply not be an option. Now, what should I do:

a)upgrade CPU
b)add another 770 to my MOBO?
Nothing now, sell your 770 and buy the fastest single GPU available when the need arises.
 

mkenyon

Banned
hypothetical question:

Lets say you have a 500W Modular PSU from brand x, a year later you upgrade the PSU to a 800W one, from the same brand/line. When doing this, could you just leave all the wiring the way it is, and just swap out the PSU itself?
DO NOT DO THIS WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION

Corsair, for example, use a combination of multiple OEMs for their PSUs, and using some of the connectors in different PSUs would cause you to totally fry it, and perhaps even kill parts that are connected. Using AX860i cables in an AX650, for example, would lead to PSU/part death.

So, maybe, and it depends on what you are switching to and from.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
Actually I might just use this current PC as a little personal computer for files for work and projects and such, while I build gaming PC from scratch and hook it up to my 34-INCH that my Consoles are hooked up to, which I know gets 1080P. I know others do that as well. Itll save me on getting o new monitor, would that work?
I hate to be Debbie Downer here, but I'm trying to be real with ya - are you sure your 34 inch TV is 1080p? Cuz that's a really uncommon TV size and I'm guessing its older. Could just be 720p(or HD-Ready as many of them call it).

I would honestly recommend waiting a bit and saving up some money to do this right. First thing I'd recommend is buying a proper 1080p TV, assuming I'm right about your 34-inch not being 1080p and that you want a living room PC and not a desk monitor(which would actually help you as 1080p monitors can be had for pretty cheap). This will probably take up a majority of your current budget, but you will at least be set from there on, whether you press on with a gaming PC or change your mind to get a next-gen console.

Next, I would definitely say that saving up for a new gaming PC is the right thing to do. It wont be cheap when added in with the cost of the new display, but a new CPU, GPU, motherboard, RAM and harddrive will all add up to be one massive fucking upgrade over what you have now. And if you just wait a few months and save up, you'll likely have some new GPU's to pick from offering even better bang-for-buck.

Of course, if you're reluctant to spend that much more after buying a new display, nobody is gonna knock you for settling for a console, either. If you're on a budget, it may just be the more economical option in the short term. I still highly recommend doing what you can to get that new gaming PC if at all possible, but I realize that may not always be financially feasible.
 

MoonGred

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DO NOT DO THIS WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION

Corsair, for example, use a combination of multiple OEMs for their PSUs, and using some of the connectors in different PSUs would cause you to totally fry it, and perhaps even kill parts that are connected. Using AX860i cables in an AX650, for example, would lead to PSU/part death.

So, maybe, and it depends on what you are switching to and from.

Haha yea, I wasn't going to attempt this, just interested in it.

I was looking at the "Corsair 80 plus gold" line, which sparked the question
 
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