"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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1. Sell it. PhysX with a second card just adds noise and heat with little benefit. Your card should still be worth at least $200 when the 800 series comes out.

2. That is custom loop stuff. Mkenyon is the resident expert, but you're looking at the basics below.

CPU Block - 60-100
GPU Block - ~100
Radiators - 100+
Pump 60-100
Fittings - 100+
Tubing - 20-30
Fans - 20-100+

dazmode has some good video guides on the basics of water-cooling here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmbmW-I8Bno

As for specific parts - that depends a lot on what you want to do, how much you want it spend, what you want it to look like and how much work you're willing to put it.

Watercooling is a deep dangerous hole, that you will never get out of but some say it's worth it (finishing my first WC build next month - I started over a year ago)

Yikes.... I may have bitten off more than I can chew..
 
Hey guys, I finally have my new PC set up and plugged in the broadband ethernet cord today. The only problem is that whenever I try to connect to the internet, I keep getting error code 651. What can I do to resolve this issue?
 

Nikokuno

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Hey guys, I finally have my new PC set up and plugged in the broadband ethernet cord today. The only problem is that whenever I try to connect to the internet, I keep getting error code 651. What can I do to resolve this issue?

Try installing (updating) your motherboard with the included disk first, find the LAN driver.
 
I'm thinking of taking my old CPU and Mobo and making a wall mounted HTPC.

Something like this only without exposing the PSU.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1026258/wall-mounted-work-p-c

Anyone here had any experience making something like this?

Will the integrated AMD HD 3000 be sufficient for streaming movies? What about Steam Streaming? I've used my old laptop with HD 4200 to stream, but can't find anything about the HD 3000.
 
Quick PC tech support here guys. 2 weeks ago, my girlfriend alerted me that my computer was doing something funny. I walked up and saw it repeating a message on the screen so fast I could not read it. I could barely making out the words "drive", "operating", "remove" and maybe "disk". Not necessarily in that order. I cannot interact with the computer like this except that pressing any key makes the message repeat faster.

I took out the SSD and hooked up the secondary drive. Same result.

I hooked up an old hard drive with a windows installation. Same result.

I took out the CMOS battery and put it back in a day later. The same message is scrolling and I cannot access the BIOS in any way. F2, F10, F12, Del key... none of them work.

What I'm supposing is that something happened to my motherboard. I have a 2500K with one of those first generation motherboards that had the SATA 2.0 defects, but I never had the error come about. I've got standard RAM, a good PSU, and a month-old video card.

I'd like some opinions on whether I'm making the right call that it's the motherboard here. Because if I'm right, I need to find the money to a new mobo and processor. Which I don't have. I'd love to hear any suggestions.

If I am right, is it still the best move for performance and budget to get a low end i5 setup over anything from AMD? I haven't been on AMD in almost a decade and I remember not liking it too much when I was.
 
Can anyone recommend a solid wireless adapter for my parents? PCI-E or USB 2.0 please. They just got 105 mbps internet so they need to upgrade from G. Must work on Windows 7. I can't seem to find anything on amazon rated 5 stars
 

Hawk269

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According to rumors, tomorrow at Gamecom at 1700 local time (Germany), Nvidia will have a finale of Gamescom and that the new 880 GPU and perhaps 870 GPU's will be announced. I also heard that they are broadcasting the finale, but can't seem to find a link on where to watch it. I am on the West Coast in the U.S., so that will be 8:00am PST for me.

Anyone heard of these rumors or where to watch the stream?
 

Tablo

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According to rumors, tomorrow at Gamecom at 1700 local time (Germany), Nvidia will have a finale of Gamescom and that the new 880 GPU and perhaps 870 GPU's will be announced. I also heard that they are broadcasting the finale, but can't seem to find a link on where to watch it. I am on the West Coast in the U.S., so that will be 8:00am PST for me.

Anyone heard of these rumors or where to watch the stream?

OMG I need to watch this live D:
I'm California, so 8 am tomorrow? shit that's early, where do I watch this :DD
 

appaws

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Yikes.... I may have bitten off more than I can chew..

Consider one of the higher-end kits from XSPC or EK. They can get you started on the water cooling path with quality components for a bit of a deal price-wise. Not really cheap, but it works out cheaper than buying everything seperately.

Take your time and learn about it...there are a lot of videos on youtube. Dazmode's are good as mentioned above for an introduction. To see cool, high-end shit, check out Ronsanut on Youtube.

Also, find the thread for your case/chasis on Overclock.net and see what other people are doing in it....it will give you great ideas and help you make sure you can set it up the way you want.

Let me encourage you. I did my first water-cooled build earlier this year, including putting my GPU under water. It was fun as hell and my machine looks cool as hell. And runs cool too! It is a great way to enhance our fun hobby.
 

McBryBry

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According to rumors, tomorrow at Gamecom at 1700 local time (Germany), Nvidia will have a finale of Gamescom and that the new 880 GPU and perhaps 870 GPU's will be announced. I also heard that they are broadcasting the finale, but can't seem to find a link on where to watch it. I am on the West Coast in the U.S., so that will be 8:00am PST for me.

Anyone heard of these rumors or where to watch the stream?

1) I hope you aren't a liar.

2) I would LOVE to wake up to this tomorrow. Bring on the 880!
 

Soodanim

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Everyone says to get low profile ram, but all I see in bundles is the bigger types. How would something like corsair vengeance pro be with a 212 EVO? That's what it's most likely to conflict with, right?
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
My PSU fans only spin with the paper clip test.

I plug it into the Motherboard (with just CPU in and the two power connectors) and nothing. Not a beep, not even a little twitch on the fans.

..... My motherboard is fried isn't it? I've only had this comp for like 2 weeks ffs.

It's a gigabyte z97mx gaming 5 for what it's worth.
 

Saiyan-Rox

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Guys any recommendations on a good PSU with long cables? one I have atm the cables can't be routed round the back especially the mobo power cables.

Also for GPU guess I should wait for the 800 series before upgrading my 7950?
 

LordAlu

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My PSU fans only spin with the paper clip test.

I plug it into the Motherboard (with just CPU in and the two power connectors) and nothing. Not a beep, not even a little twitch on the fans.

..... My motherboard is fried isn't it? I've only had this comp for like 2 weeks ffs.

It's a gigabyte z97mx gaming 5 for what it's worth.
Are you using the power switch on the case itself, or are you bridging the two power pins on the board? It could potentially just be the case swtich...
 

kennah

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Everyone says to get low profile ram, but all I see in bundles is the bigger types. How would something like corsair vengeance pro be with a 212 EVO? That's what it's most likely to conflict with, right?
Protip : usually things in bundles are things that aren't selling well. If you do get tall ram you can just shift the fan slightly higher. It will be less efficient but will still work.
Guys any recommendations on a good PSU with long cables? one I have atm the cables can't be routed round the back especially the mobo power cables.

Also for GPU guess I should wait for the 800 series before upgrading my 7950?
Bitfenix makes some nice extensions for a decent price. You're better off going that route than finding a psu with long cables.

Or learn how to custom sleeve.
 

Saiyan-Rox

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Protip : usually things in bundles are things that aren't selling well. If you do get tall ram you can just shift the fan slightly higher. It will be less efficient but will still work.

Bitfenix makes some nice extensions for a decent price. You're better off going that route than finding a psu with long cables.

Or learn how to custom sleeve.

was thinking of extensions but the price for them all is pretty big. suppose all i'd need is the 2 mobo power cables and the GPU cables. need a new PSU anyway since mine will need replaced when i get a new GPU
 

kennah

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was thinking of extensions but the price for them all is pretty big. suppose all i'd need is the 2 mobo power cables and the GPU cables. need a new PSU anyway since mine will need replaced when i get a new GPU
You're better off getting a good psu and buying extensions than settling on whatever psu you find that happens to have long cables.
 

kharma45

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was thinking of extensions but the price for them all is pretty big. suppose all i'd need is the 2 mobo power cables and the GPU cables. need a new PSU anyway since mine will need replaced when i get a new GPU

Your XFX unit is a 550w, no? It won't need replaced.
 

Xando

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Hey guys,

Im thinking about upgrading my PC soon for Witcher 3 (High-Ultra) but im not sure what to upgrade.
A friend of mine said my CPU(I7-2600K @3.4 GHZ) is still relatively good and i should be good with a OC, is that true?


My GPU is a Geforce GTX 680 2GB and i have 8GB DDR3 RAM.

What GPU would you recommend me? i would be willing to pay up to 500€ for a new GPU.

Also, is 8GB RAM enough or should i go with 16GB?
 

cyen

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Hey guys,

Im thinking about upgrading my PC soon for Witcher 3 (High-Ultra) but im not sure what to upgrade.
A friend of mine said my CPU(I7-2600K @3.4 GHZ) is still relatively good and i should be good with a OC, is that true?


My GPU is a Geforce GTX 680 2GB and i have 8GB DDR3 RAM.

What GPU would you recommend me? i would be willing to pay up to 500€ for a new GPU.

Also, is 8GB RAM enough or should i go with 16GB?

Your friend is right, just overclock it and youre good to go.

Better wait for the release of the 880 series since they are just around the corner.
 

kennah

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Hey guys,

Im thinking about upgrading my PC soon for Witcher 3 (High-Ultra) but im not sure what to upgrade.
A friend of mine said my CPU(I7-2600K @3.4 GHZ) is still relatively good and i should be good with a OC, is that true?


My GPU is a Geforce GTX 680 2GB and i have 8GB DDR3 RAM.

What GPU would you recommend me? i would be willing to pay up to 500€ for a new GPU.

Also, is 8GB RAM enough or should i go with 16GB?
A lot can happen in 5 months. Wait. But yes your cpu is fine.
 

asdad123

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I just built my friend a cheap gaming PC with the MSI z97 PC Mate and G3258 combo from microcenter and everything is all good at stock, however when I try to overclock it, it hangs on the boot screen to an A2 error, which from what I've read is "checking io devices". I only have a SSD and HDD in there. Unplugging both doesn't get rid of the error, but clearing the CMOS does (along with the overclocking). I tried using the OC genie utility.

The PC then boots perfectly fine multiple times (i tried at least 5). If I try to overclock again, same error pops up until I clear the CMOS again. Could over clocking cause the A2 problem? Like I said, it still occurs even with the drives unplugged if I try to overclock which confuses me.
 

kennah

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I just built my friend a cheap gaming PC with the MSI z97 PC Mate and G3258 combo from microcenter and everything is all good at stock, however when I try to overclock it, it hangs on the boot screen to an A2 error, which from what I've read is "checking io devices". I only have a SSD and HDD in there. Unplugging both doesn't get rid of the error, but clearing the CMOS does (along with the overclocking). I tried using the OC genie utility.

The PC then boots perfectly fine multiple times (i tried at least 5). If I try to overclock again, same error pops up until I clear the CMOS again. Could over clocking cause the A2 problem? Like I said, it still occurs even with the drives unplugged if I try to overclock which confuses me.
Did you update the bios?
 

kennah

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That's the first thing I'm going to try tonight. I finished the build up at 2 am and went to bed after installing all the drivers and stuff and troubleshooting a little lol.
There's been lots of reports of weird behavior with the Pentium on old bioses. I'd try that first.
 

Nikokuno

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Everyone says to get low profile ram, but all I see in bundles is the bigger types. How would something like corsair vengeance pro be with a 212 EVO? That's what it's most likely to conflict with, right?

Mysteries of life. I have some classic form factor Hyper X Genesis and it's close to the rad...

Shit I almost forgot about that disk! Seems to be connecting now though, thanks!

De Nada :) same problem happen to me few hours before you post.
 

JimPanzer

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as it seems I'm getting the money back for my defect gtx760. I'll probably take the money and upgrade.
what would be my best option in the 450-500 € price-range? the next big pc-title I want to play is Dragon Age, so I can wait a bit - are there any new cards in the price-range on the horizon?
 

Nikokuno

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as it seems I'm getting the money back for my defect gtx760. I'll probably take the money and upgrade.
what would be my best option in the 450-500 € price-range? the next big pc-title I want to play is Dragon Age, so I can wait a bit - are there any new cards in the price-range on the horizon?

Nothing except AMD Tonga's r9 285/285X and nVIDIA Maxwell's GTX 880/870 somewhere between September and the end of 2014...

GTX 780 or r9 290X if you can't wait Maxwell.
 

MrNCFC

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Hi guys looking for some advice re headsets as i haven't really used them, before

I have been persuaded to give Day Z and its mods a go by some friends at work and they have suggested getting a headset but I am at a loss to know which one to go for.

I intend changing my PC very shortly and was going to get the Maximus Ranger because i have been told its on board sound is good and therefore I don't need a sound card - is this good advice or would i be better off getting a cheaper mobo such as the gigabyte and an independent soundcard? and if so what soundcard should i be getting?

Happy to spend £100 to £150 on a good headset but do i also need a mixamp or do i plug straight into the sockets on the case? It would also be great if the headset could also be used on my games consoles Xbox one and 360
 

DevilFox

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Same but I'm worried about the build quality and the max GPU length allowed.
Can someone give me an advice please? I'm going to build a micro ATX system, single GPU (next 880 custom, length unknown), air cooling (CPU cooled by 120mm AIO).. what case should I pick?
  • Corsair Air 240
  • CM HAF XB
  • Fractal Design Node 804
  • Bitfenix Prodigy M
I like them all, sigh.
 

yatesl

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I got my LEDs working, although I had to attach them to a separate extension lead (ruling out any additional LEDs to the same molex).


Not as fancy as some jobs here, but I didn't want to go for a bright red. Although now I have a window and a light in there, I'm realising how ugly the Gigabyte Windforce card is, and it's making me want to replace it purely based on the exposed PCB...
 
Newegg currently has the Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H for $120 AR ($140 otherwise), and that's probably the best possible board you're getting in the price range you gave.

What if I wanted to step it up to about $200? Also, I'm seeing great things about the Gigabyte boards. I also see that a lot of people have reported they needed to update bios immediately for some of the latest CPU's. Is that the case with all of the newer Gigabyte boards? Are there other boards in the same price range that I wouldn't have to update the bios the moment I boot the machine? It's not a huge deal if I have to update but I would prefer not to.
 
What if I wanted to step it up to about $200? Also, I'm seeing great things about the Gigabyte boards. I also see that a lot of people have reported they needed to update bios immediately for some of the latest CPU's. Is that the case with all of the newer Gigabyte boards? Are there other boards in the same price range that I wouldn't have to update the bios the moment I boot the machine? It's not a huge deal if I have to update but I would prefer not to.

At $200 you're probably best off with one of the higher-end Asus boards (Sabertooth, Hero, Pro), though I don't think they have that much utility over something at ~$140.
 

LilJoka

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What if I wanted to step it up to about $200? Also, I'm seeing great things about the Gigabyte boards. I also see that a lot of people have reported they needed to update bios immediately for some of the latest CPU's. Is that the case with all of the newer Gigabyte boards? Are there other boards in the same price range that I wouldn't have to update the bios the moment I boot the machine? It's not a huge deal if I have to update but I would prefer not to.

What is wrong with the originally recommended Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H?

Are you looking for some specific feature that is making you spend more? Because theres not really any other reason.
 
From what i read, this series of PSU was notoriously bad for providing the rated power delivery and poor efficiency.

Id recommend a Seasonic G series 650W PSU.

Yes, from what I came across it seems as if they are not very trustworthy units. Which is why I convinced him to swap it out for something more reliable. Thanks for the assistance!
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Is the ASUS VG248QE the best monitor at the $300 range?

Canadian pricing if that matters.
 
Question:

If my Mobo has 1xFront Panel header or 1x USB 2.0/3.0 header and my case has 2 USB 3.0 Ports and 2 USB 2.0 Ports on the front, will it run all of the ports or do I need a better mobo?

This is the Mobo's specifications and this is the case's.
 
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