Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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I wouldnt trust them either.
I am serious asking this: If there was an altercation in the officers vehicle, and a shot goes off and the suspect runs away. What is the officer supposed to do?
My assumption would be try and get out and run after them? What if the suspect is too far away to catch? Pulling out the gun and shooting someone because they are about to get away isn't good enough.
At what point do they let the suspect go?
My assumption would be try and get out and run after them? What if the suspect is too far away to catch? Pulling out the gun and shooting someone because they are about to get away isn't good enough.
At what point do they let the suspect go?
MHWilliams
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Still disagree with the bolded part, because again, witness statement. On your speculation, you have... gut feeling?
And again, no justification for his murder. Do you agree?
Chase the suspect, not shoot them. Like this.
No, so they have their own evidence that they don't have to rely on the local jurisdiction to produce.
lazorexplosion
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Let's take it another step and say "looter" is a codeword for the n word! And criminal and felon! The purity of our politically correct language will be fierce! Think of how many people we can accuse of racism! Convenient!
I think the term fits for how the police were acting before MSHP took over.
Angelus Errare
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He shot the kid twice in the back. Mike then turned around AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE BACK/SHOT AT and put his hands up surrendering. It was at this point the officer dumped 4 more rounds into a person who surrendered AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE BACK/SHOT AT.
Fugerson is also a small town of 10,000. Where the hell is Brown supposed to go?
Okay, say he does leave town and never comes back. Great, you chased him away, and he never darkens your town again with his presence, you just solved the issue of him causing any potential problem he may cause in the future.
Calm down. I was asking a serious question. I am not insinuating anything.
I don't know what the correct procedure is in this type of thing. I even agreed in the question what the officer did was wrong.
Reaction much?
Vicetrailia
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You should try to understand the world that you live in.
Angelus Errare
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Go back to stormfront. I swear if I'm banned before you because of this thread. I will have lost faith in GAF mods.
Looks like you win this time. Dude just got banned after you typed this.
APB on suspect. Immediate call for possibly dangerous but unarmed suspect fleeing down the road heading towards? I dunno its not rocket science, I'm thinking.
Crumpet Trumpet
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would this post fit in a bingo space
Angelus Errare
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I'm pretty calm, you're just asking a question that has been answered; and ultimately your question is pretty pointless. This is about a systematic execution of someone after they surrendered. It's already known he was shot at while running/shot in the back. People are royally pissed because even after Mike Brown surrendered he was executed. Every single thing else that gets introduced is obfuscation.
Saint Gregory
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First of all, I don't know if this cop was racist or what his reasoning was to shoot Mike Brown. All I do know is based on the information that's been released it seems like an excessive use of force. Notice that I said specifically "based on the information that's been released" because that leads to my second problem; why the trickle of information?
The reason you see people bringing up race in this case is not so much because of the race of the officer, although that does seem to always be the pattern, but more because of the race of the victim. Yet again it appears that the shooting of a black person is being treated like a non-event that's not worth the trouble of investigating without widespread protesting from the public. As I said in my original response to you having protests and vigils are generally not necessary for white Americans because there's very little chance that their murders would be treated so flippantly.
Perhaps if you could find some examples of black officers shooting unarmed white men (or even unarmed black men) we'd have some context to explore how these cases are treated differently. The closest thing I can think of is the OJ case where they were plenty of protests and vigils for the victims and OJ was basically hounded until he was put in jail for stealing back his own property. Justice always served for some but not all.
Edit: I didn't see that you got banned but hopefully you'll still read my response and get some level of understanding.
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I remember this guy seriously arguing the 99.6% of poor people have a fridge stat is in fact proof the poor don't have it all that bad.
Yeah, I'm still waiting for that. I haven't read that anywhere.
OG_Original Gamer
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I was listening to a radio talk show host MO' Kelly, his producer also makes comments, Tawahlla Sharp is his name. He made a point of saying that this isn't a race issue but a prejudice issue. Meaning that police and people that have businesses in predominantly black communities, bring prejudices with them into these communities. Viewing every teenager and young adult as a thief or criminal, because of where they live and look. Which causes a similar situation like what happened to Latasha Harlinshttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Latasha_Harlins. Something happened between the clerk and Mike Brown before that video showing Mike Brown shoving the clerk. Either way, it doesn't make the cops actions justifiable or leads me to believe Mike Brown, all in one afternoon became a hardened criminal and chose to get into a altercation with a armed police officer. Try to take the officer weapon, in order to use it against him. If he had gained control of Darren Wilson's firearm, what he would have faced would have been a lot more worse than taking or stealing cigars.
You know what I was doing before two sheriff's deputies pulled me over and made me exit my vehicle, then sit in the back of one they're patrol cars for about an hour. I was on my way home from work, 3 a.m in the morning. What were the deputies doing. Sitting in the parking lot of a Winchells donuts. As I drove pass them preparing to stop at a red light, they put down they're donuts and got behind me. When they approached the car the deputy in front, unholstered his weapon. Now at this point my heart is pumping like a race horse and I'm scared, nervous, confused, overtly cautious, and angry. I'm being frisked now, they find my work badge and drivers license. No weapons, not even a pencil on me. One deputy walks me to a patrol and sits me in the back, and guess what I'm not Fucking handcuffed. I'm told to hold onto the grill seperating the arrested from law enforcement. Now for about an hour I have to be calm, compliant and humiliated in the back of this vehicle, while deputy Cunningham(Red Head) searches my vehicle for drugs, drug paraphernalia, and or weapons. Seconds before the deputy let's me out of the car, he say's it's good that I didn't argue with them. Get this, they give me a ticket. For what you may ask, the light over the rear license plate had gone out. That was there justification for bothering me in the first place.
Why all this, for someone who did no wrong. I lived in Compton, CA at the time. Area known for its gangs, drugs, and prostitution. But should also be known for having people that live there that own they're homes, have kids in college, work for the city, own businesses, and do everything that those who live outside they're communities does. Raise smart, respectful, humble, and with integrity adults who go on to become doctors, lawyers, law makers, police officers, actors, singers, writers, marines, soldiers, airmen and women.
Judging me by the color of my skin has morphed into a combination of what I look like, wear, and live. Oh snap, if I move to the burbs I'll be questioned anyway because I stick out like a sore thumb.
I'm more afraid of law enforcement than Crips or Bloods.
Bluekaveli
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We shall see!
Spring-Loaded
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The dude probably is going back to stormfront though, and, in his mind, still has a leg to stand on. He'll only focus on the "unfairness" of his ban. I don't count that as a win.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Apparently, the cops were in the right to put a choke hold on Garner because he was the next Heisenberg.
Mammoth Jones
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Keep fucking that chicken....
If your argument is I'm just going out of my way to accuse people of racism you'd be wrong. The fact of the matter is that "thug" is almost always ONLY used against Black criminality. Gee, I wonder why.
Foxy Fox 39
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I have rarely, if ever, heard white people or the media refer to white people who have committed any crime as a thug. Thug is reserved specifically for blacks for some reason.
Angelus Errare
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I don't even know what this means.
Keep fucking that chicken....
Did the AP ever respond to this?
That's the problem, you never see cases of officers gunning down unarmed white or black people. It never happens.
Maybe the Sean Bell case. I think there was a black (or Latino) officer amongst the other officers.
Bluekaveli
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Angelus Errare
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I do. I don't go to Stormfront so I'm not really worried about what post he makes about GAF or it's members there.
HP_Wuvcraft
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He doesn't hate blacks, he's just uncomfortable around them.
There are plenty of cases where a black officer shoots a black man and they are treated the same. Sean Bell in NY being an example. This is about the alarming amount of unarmed black men that are murdered by the police with little to no repercussion, the race of the officer doesn't matter.
Spiderjericho
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I'm sorry. I've been away from the thread for a few hours. They used drones? I saw the military vehicles, etc.
One was done by AFP one was done by the AP. How could two different press organizations respond?
True.
Foxy Fox 39
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I do. No matter what we said he wasn't going to change his mind or see things differently. Neogaf's better with his departure.
White people will use Mondays as the next covert racist term.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnc6Asflzq8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnc6Asflzq8
Some journalists are using those camera drones and I think people are assuming its police. Not sure though.
googleplex
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Dude, are you me? We even from the same hood.
If this is true, it suggests they aren't completely confident in the local pd and/or its coroner. To assume federal intent to commit conspiracy and obstruction from this is frankly asinine. I.e. it should be reassuring.
Squirrel Killer
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The Ferguson PD is a bunch of thugs and the community they are supposed to be serving and protecting deserve much better.
Speaking of which, how has no one had the authority and common sense to publicly take charge of this situation and fully answer the very justifiable questions about it?
Ultimately, the people of Ferguson. Directly, the mayor and city council of Ferguson. If people didn't care about city elections before, I bet they will now.
MHWilliams
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According to most sources, the next officer arrived three minutes after the shooting. The ambulance didn't arrive until later, according to video taken at the scene, despite Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson's statement on the matter.
Saint Gregory
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Actually, now that I think about it we did have a case of unarmed black man being shot by a black police officer in the DC area back in 2000.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/19/AR2006011902346.html
I didn't know him but a bunch of my friends knew him at Howard University and rumors swirled that he shot because the cop's wife/girlfriend had been cheating with him. The case was one of the most shady that I can remember now that I think about it but much like every other case there wasn't much of an investigation into what happened.
They were organizing GOTV/registration efforts a few days ago, hopefully they keep going with them.
I also hope this helps people better understand just why it's a problem when the GOP puts in restrictive voting laws and how it's designed to suppress the votes of the lower classes. (which of course, are much more minority-heavy than the general population in the US.)
It's really amazing that people say it's not a race issue when 4 unarmed black men have been killed in 1 month, all by white officers, one of them choked to death on camera and the officer hasn't been arrested.
But you have to go back like a decade to find a case of black officers killing unarmed people.
Spiderjericho
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From his hyperbole, I'm thinking they have the entire military complex coming down on these protesters.
So much FUD and confusion right now. It's too bad they have the governor they do...someone needs to come in and restore order.
OG_Original Gamer
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I still won't to know where are these Damn stolen cigars. Then someone that's never been in trouble with law enforcement, then tries to attempt murder of a police officer. The clerk has been silent during this whole ordeal. No interview by press, no statement or testimony from investigating detectives. So Mike Brown on that day decides, he doesn't want to go college. He would rather go to jail for stealing, assaulting a police officer or worse die from several gunshot wounds. There's something missing in the story of the day this occurred, lies are being told, and the law is being used to circumvent the truth. Because in this cluster fuck the truth may not set someone free but put behind bars for 1st or 2nd degree murder.
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