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[FamousLastX]

Link to Tim's livestream?

He was back up for a few minutes but just went down again.

 

[Dai101]

Sending war correspondents...to a city in America.

Holy fucking shit.

Surreal. I mean. HOLY SHIT. Never though i'll live to see that day.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Link to Tim's livestream?

http://new.livestream.com/timcast/events/3295551

Though i think it died again

 

[sphagnum]

 

[BronsonLee]

But then you get stuff like "Jack Twitter Billionaire, has been arrested", and then later you get "Hey, it's me, Jack Twitter Billionaire, just got home".

That's on the person to decide whether that news is A; legitimate and B; newsworthy. For every one of those stories, we get a story where someone live tweeted the damn shooting.

tldr; wait for corroboration, or just deal with it. Nobody's going to keep potentially legitimate information out of the thread.

 

[Volimar]

You're watching an archive.

It wasn't an archive, it was live. He said the time.

But now the stream is down again.

 

[Team Filler]

Down again for me, yeah.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

I'm not sure if I understand the implications of these autopsy results in terms of what they prove. Now, the lack of residue proves once and for all that he obviously wasn't killed over a struggle for the firearm. Not that either narrative right now was still suggesting that, but it seems we can put that to bed. Now, the lack of bullet wounds to the back obviously proves he wasn't shot in the back, but doesn't prove that he wasn't shot at while fleeing. However, as I understand it, neither prevailing narrative disagrees that Brown did run away at some point. As for where the accounts go next, we have one story that Brown surrendered and one that argued that Brown proceeded to rush at the police officer.

My gut instinct is that it's hard to believe that an unarmed individual would rush at a police officer from a distance. So, as I have from the beginning, I'm inclined to think that multiple gunshot wounds doesn't bode well for Wilson. However -- and I'm not playing devil's advocate here -- I can't help but shake the feeling that the autopsy results don't really clear anything up, and that what you take away from it probably hinges on what you believed beforehand. Does it tell the story of someone with his hands in the air mercilessly gunned down by police, or the story of someone rushing at a scared officer? Again, I'm not playing devil's advocate here. I don't believe the Wilson defense at all. I'm just trying to understand how this autopsy proves the former (Brown gunned down after surrendering) and not the latter (shot at multiple times while running at officer).

 

[Enron]

CNN is continually saying that weapons were fired upon police.

Vice stream said the same thing

 

[Konka]

6 shots is nothing to be honest. What really Is going to matter is if Michael was a threat or not.

Being unarmed doesnt mean police can't shoot to kill. If the autopsy shows that he was mid range theb the cop is screwed. If he was short rang and the are signs of a struggle that will be enough for him to go free.

6 shots. No biggie.

 

[ishibear]

Thanks guys.

 

[The Technomancer]

I can't watch the major news networks. Are they actually getting how ridiculous this is?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Poor kid.

 

[B-Dubs]

6 shots is nothing to be honest. What really Is going to matter is if Michael was a threat or not.

Being unarmed doesnt mean police can't shoot to kill. If the autopsy shows that he was mid range theb the cop is screwed. If he was short rang and the are signs of a struggle that will be enough for him to go free.

We already know it wasn't at short range, there'd be powder burns on his skin if it were and none were found.

I'm not sure if I understand the implications of these autopsy results in terms of what they prove. Now, the lack of residue proves once and for all that he obviously wasn't killed over a struggle for the firearm. Not that either narrative right now was still suggesting that, but it seems we can put that to bed. Now, the lack of bullet wounds to the back obviously proves he wasn't shot in the back, but doesn't prove that he wasn't shot at while fleeing. However, as I understand it, neither prevailing narrative disagrees that Brown did run away at some point. As for where the accounts go next, we have one story that Brown surrendered and one that argued that Brown proceeded to rush at the police officer.

My gut instinct is that it's hard to believe that an unarmed individual would rush at a police officer from a distance. So, as I have from the beginning, I'm inclined to think that multiple gunshot wounds doesn't bode well for Wilson. However -- and I'm not playing devil's advocate here -- I can't help but shake the feeling that the autopsy results don't really clear anything up, and that what you take away from it probably hinges on what you believed beforehand. Does it tell the story of someone with his hands in the air mercilessly gunned down by police, or the story of someone rushing at a scared officer? Again, I'm not playing devil's advocate here. I don't believe the Wilson defense at all. I'm just trying to understand how this autopsy proves the former (Brown gunned down after surrendering) and not the latter (shot at multiple times while running at officer).

It doesn't outright prove the eyewitness testimony, but if you were to look at the facts as we know them that testimony has been strengthened a bit. He'd have to been high on all kinds of drugs to think charging a cop that was shooting at him was a good idea.

 

[TheJLC]

6 shots. No biggie.

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

 

[TheOMan]

oy

Is this for real? I said wow.

 

[ishibear]

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

Ain't nobody in the mood for this shit.

Pls don't.

 

[ReignofSparrows]

6 shots is nothing to be honest. What really Is going to matter is if Michael was a threat or not.

Being unarmed doesnt mean police can't shoot to kill. If the autopsy shows that he was mid range theb the cop is screwed. If he was short rang and the are signs of a struggle that will be enough for him to go free.

Dude, he died 35 feet away from the car and the autopsy report stated that the lack of gun residue is sufficient to conclude that all of the shots were from "not very short range."

Edited the quoted to be as clear as possible.

 

[Measley]

I'm not sure if I understand the implications of these autopsy results in terms of what they prove. Now, the lack of residue proves once and for all that he obviously wasn't killed over a struggle for the firearm. Not that either narrative right now was still suggesting that, but it seems we can put that to bed. Now, the lack of bullet wounds to the back obviously proves he wasn't shot in the back, but doesn't prove that he wasn't shot at while fleeing. However, as I understand it, neither prevailing narrative disagrees that Brown did run away at some point. As for where the accounts go next, we have one story that Brown surrendered and one that argued that Brown proceeded to rush at the police officer.

My gut instinct is that it's hard to believe that an unarmed individual would rush at a police officer from a distance. So, as I have from the beginning, I'm inclined to think that multiple gunshot wounds doesn't bode well for Wilson. However -- and I'm not playing devil's advocate here -- but I can't help but shake the feeling that the autopsy results don't really clear anything up, and that what you take away from it probably hinges on what you believed beforehand. Does it tell the story of someone with his hands in the air mercilessly gunned down by police, or the story of someone rushing at a scared officer? Again, I'm not playing devil's advocate here. I don't believe the Wilson defense at all. I'm just trying to understand how this autopsy proves the former (Brown gunned down after surrendering) and not the latter (shot at multiple times while running at officer).

What would be the reason for Brown to charge an officer if he was originally running away?

That part doesn't make sense to me. If you're trying to run away from a cop, why would you suddenly turn around and charge at him?

To me, the more likely scenario is that the cop shot at him as he ran, the kid stopped and turned around, and the cop just unloaded on him.

 

[Punchy4486]

We already know it wasn't at short range, there'd be powder burns on his skin if it were and none were found. If anything this report has confirmed the eyewitness testimony.

May be some on his clothes. But the lack of them on his head implies otherwise.

 

[Volimar]

Clearly the terrorists are using children as human shields.

 

[Angelus Errare]

We already know it wasn't at short range, there'd be powder burns on his skin if it were and none were found. If anything this report has confirmed the eyewitness testimony.

He might have used his negro speed to run away then charge the officer then run back away again.

We don't have all the answers.

 

[kuppy]

Tim is back.

I'm sorry to only post such a dumb question, but what is Tim using for filming / broadcasting? He's doing an excellent job covering this, remember seeing a lot of boxes from him in the snapchat from Casey Neistat.

 

[kehs]

I'm not sure if I understand the implications of these autopsy results in terms of what they prove. Now, the lack of residue proves once and for all that he obviously wasn't killed over a struggle for the firearm. Not that either narrative right now was still suggesting that, but it seems we can put that to bed. Now, the lack of bullet wounds to the back obviously proves he wasn't shot in the back, but doesn't prove that he wasn't shot at while fleeing. However, as I understand it, neither prevailing narrative disagrees that Brown did run away at some point. As for where the accounts go next, we have one story that Brown surrendered and one that argued that Brown proceeded to rush at the police officer.

My gut instinct is that it's hard to believe that an unarmed individual would rush at a police officer from a distance. So, as I have from the beginning, I'm inclined to think that multiple gunshot wounds doesn't bode well for Wilson. However -- and I'm not playing devil's advocate here -- but I can't help but shake the feeling that the autopsy results don't really clear anything up, and that what you take away from it probably hinges on what you believed beforehand. Does it tell the story of someone with his hands in the air mercilessly gunned down by police, or the story of someone rushing at a scared officer? Again, I'm not playing devil's advocate here. I don't believe the Wilson defense at all. I'm just trying to understand how this autopsy proves the former (Brown gunned down after surrendering) and not the latter (shot at multiple times while running at officer).

The report mentioned no residue on the body, as noted in the article the clothes haven't been tested or the results haven't been released.

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Johnson specifically mentioned he was shot from behind.

They should also be able to tell if his hands were raised from the position of the entry/exit wounds.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

Two final bullets in his head.

 

[CrankyJay]

We already know it wasn't at short range, there'd be powder burns on his skin if it were and none were found. If anything this report has confirmed the eyewitness testimony.

The report said he didn't have access to his clothes or inside of the cop car. There might be residue, at least in the car itself.

 

[watershed]

Not trying to start an argument but how does this contradict? It looks like he was shot on the inner arm like you would with your hands raised...

Read what I quoted, its not about the autopsy, its about one eyewitness account that a right wing website is pushing. That account says Brown turned around and charged at the officer. That contradicts the many other eye witnesses who said he turned around with his hands up and surrendered. It's hard to believe someone being shot at by a cop is going to turn around and run towards the shooter.

 

[everyday math]

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

Please don't

 

[LiK]

Two final bullets in his head.

double tap. cop watched too many movies.

 

[TheJLC]

Dude, he died 35 feet away from the car and the autopsy report stated that the lack of gun residue is sufficient to conclude that all of the shots were from at least mid range.

Then he's screwed

 

[Lowmelody]

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

OH is that all? Got damn...

ffffuuu

 

[Puppet Shadow]

I'm pro Mike Brown. Check original thread title.

Just tryna piece it together.

I'm assuming after running from the cop, the cop fired shots at him (and missed), and Mike was like Shit, I ain't dying today, better turn around and give myself up, before being shot six times. My guess is the first headshot put him on the ground, and the cop pretty much executed him with the second head shot.

 

[devilhawk]

Dude, he died 35 feet away from the car and the autopsy report stated that the lack of gun residue is sufficient to conclude that all of the shots were from at least mid range.

The examiner did not have access to clothes which could have gun residue on them.

 

[bodyboarder]

Why is a kid there in the first place?

 

[Vire]

 

[vas_a_morir]

Poor kid.

No place for children, IMO. Far too dangerous.

 

[mattiewheels]

6 shots is nothing to be honest. What really Is going to matter is if Michael was a threat or not.

Being unarmed doesnt mean police can't shoot to kill. If the autopsy shows that he was mid range theb the cop is screwed. If he was short rang and the are signs of a struggle that will be enough for him to go free.

I'd like to think that cops are trained to shoot low to immobilize aggressors without killing them. I guess when a black kid's charging you all bets are off?

 

[Measley]

Enough bullets to neutralize a threat. Some people take a lot others do not.

Tasers and Pepper spray neutralize a threat.

You only shoot someone in the upper body if you're trying to kill them.

 

[BFIB]

So all shots were from the front? I thought some eyewitness reports state he was clipped attempting to pull away after the first shot at the car.

Which means it could be possible that Brown surrendered and the cop unloaded his clip?

 

[ronito]

I can't watch the major news networks. Are they actually getting how ridiculous this is?

Yeah the idea of getting any of this news from the major news networks turns my stomach and just feels laugahable.

 

[everyday math]

@AmyKNelson: Fire started in the Delwood market police tell us.

.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Why is a kid there in the first place?

Because he's most likely relatively near his house on a residential street? He has every right to be there.

 

[ReignofSparrows]

The examiner did not have access to clothes which could have gun residue on them.

I should have said "not very short range" which was the hypothetical. Even residue on the clothing wouldn't change that.

 

[CrankyJay]

I'd like to think that cops are trained to shoot low to immobilize aggressors without killing them. I guess when a black kid's charging you all bets are off?

They're trained to kill. Not maim.

 

[freddy]

Police lined up around a Gas station somewhere. People hurling verbal abuse at them. Reports of a market on fire, but the reporter can't see anything.

 

[Nanashrew]

This thread is going too fast, same with my Twitter. I can't keep up. My grandmother even started crying seeing the news and hearing the autopsy report.

 

[B-Dubs]

The report said he didn't have access to his clothes or inside of the cop car. There might be residue, at least in the car itself.

There was no residue on the shots to the head, which makes it unlikely that there will be any on his clothes. It doesn't outright prove the eyewitness testimony, but it makes it look a lot more like the truth.

 

[Badosh]

Why is a kid there in the first place?

because these are protests involving the whole community, young and old. It's not like police were like "okay kids get out of here before we tear gas the adults."

 

[slit]

They're not going to disperse. They will just regather again somewhere else. They are gathering again near the gas station where the police are now.The curfew will completely backfire.