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[Branduil]

They aren't targeting a specific person with tear gas. The parents should not allow the kids to be there.

Yeah, what are the parent thinking, bringing their kids to a public place in America.

 

[CrankyJay]

I thought they were trained to kill in armed situations i.e. subject is armed.

If you shoot, you shoot to kill. He shouldn't have been shooting at Mike Brown.

Are you trying to bait me? I've been here all week.

 

[Hindl]

He fled, now possibly shots darted past him, not hitting. He's scared and knows that he can't get away, trapped, so he turns around and surrenders himself. The cop unloads from a distance anyway.

Was it cleared up whether or not he was shot in the back at all?

Initial autopsy states there were no wounds in the back. 4 shots hit him in the interior side of his right arm on the front, and 2 shots hit him in the head

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/u...s-shot-at-least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=1

 

[BronsonLee]

So does going for the head classify this as an execution?

It means that he's got a lot of explaining to do.

 

[fritolay]

Clearly the terrorists are using children as human shields.

If I was a parent in the area, I probably wouldn't have my kids outside around there.

 

[bodyboarder]

Because he's most likely relatively near his house on a residential street? He has every right to be there.

I realise he has all the rights in the world to be there, but these protests haven't exactly been peaceful (from both sides) from the start.

 

[gcubed]

Yeah, what are the parent thinking, bringing their kids to a public place in America.

This is just dumb

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Quick, someone get him an iphone cable.

 

[zewone]

He fled, now possibly shots darted past him, not hitting. He's scared and knows that he can't get away, trapped, so he turns around and surrenders himself. The cop unloads from a distance anyway.

Was it cleared up whether or not he was shot in the back at all?

None of the shots fired at his back hit. He likely realized the murdered was shooting at him and turned around to plead/surrender and was shot.

 

[TheJLC]

I thought they were trained to kill in armed situations i.e. subject is armed.

Nope. When there is risk of grave injury or death. Armed or not, it must meet the threat level of injury or death.

 

[CorvoSol]

Nope upper body chest area




Yup. However not all cops have tazers. Mace is used at short to midrange.

If he was 35 feet away then he wasnt a threat. So cop should be arrested.

The officer's arsenal not including less lethal means of subduing someone is in and of itself an enormous problem in the United States.

 

[Lowmelody]

Firing that many shots from that far away seems crazy. What if people had been behind him and just one missed?

Casualty of justice. Move along citizen.

 

[everyday math]

Sounds like what the protestors were saying.

@TheAPJournalist: Police say that none of the seven people arrested last night were from #Ferguson; "some may" be from out of state. #MichaelBrown

 

[TheOMan]

Firing that many shots from that far away seems crazy. What if people had been behind him and just one missed?

Apparently some did miss and hit homes.

 

[captive]

The autopsy stresses that more information is needed, but this seems to be important:



He was shot in his arm 4 times on the interior side, which lines up with if he had his hands up surrendering. If he was charging at the officer, unless he runs absurdly weird, the wounds would be on the outside of the arm

Yea, could have been he had his arms up in defensive position while getting shot.

But holy crap, one bullet caused 5 wounds.

 

[Icanplaythat]

Not looking to create an iPhone vs Android argument, but if you're going to use a phone to cover something like this, why not use one that allows you to switch out batteries?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

The guy who did the fucking autopsy said it didn't provide enough information to reconstruct the shooting, but the posters in this thread think they can do it based on the NYT article about the autopsy.

Whatever. Write whatever story feeds your outrage the most.

Dunno man, is pretty hard to explain two head shots after a initial shooting.

 

[Angelus Errare]

How many shots did the witnesses say they heard? I find it hard to believe the cop missed every shot in the back and even while Mike turned the cop missed and didn't land a side shot, then lands the last front facing 6.

Most witnesses say they heard 1 or 2 shots from behind. Landing the shots isn't a matter of which way he's facing. The shots to the back he was running away aka a moving target. It's most likely when he turned around to surrender he stopped moving giving the cop time to properly aim.

 

[GameGuru59]

Another Vice live stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q0wA4OmCd4

Vice is beating the breaks off of CNN/MSNBC right now. Outstanding coverage.

 

[TheJLC]

The officer's arsenal not including less lethal means of subduing someone is in and of itself an enormous problem in the United States.

Absolutely. But less lethal can still fail and officers often resort to lethal force

 

[Gonzalez]

If I was a parent in the area, I probably wouldn't have my kids outside around there.

...And with that odd character with the cigarette in his mouth.

 

[daffy]

Lethal force is lethal force. If it is justified vs an unarmed target it is applied the same way as it would be to an armed target.

Interesting. Good to know.

 

[Ominym]

Yeah, what are the parent thinking, bringing their kids to a public place in America.

Oh, come on man. That's just stupid.

 

[MechDX]

The officer's arsenal not including less lethal means of subduing someone is in and of itself an enormous problem in the United States.

All the HPD (Houston PD) and the local sheriffs departments all have tasers on their belt next to their firearm.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Initial autopsy states there were no wounds in the back. 4 shots hit him in the interior side of his right arm on the front, and 2 shots hit him in the head

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/u...s-shot-at-least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=1

Oh okay. I look forward to the analysis, or anything that paints a better picture.

 

[Cartman86]

The guy who did the fucking autopsy said it didn't provide enough information to reconstruct the shooting, but the posters in this thread think they can do it based on the NYT article about the autopsy.

Whatever. Write whatever story feeds your outrage the most.

At this point yes we don't know enough, but people are using information the examiner did not have (according to the article) like the eye witness accounts.

 

[zewone]

The officer's arsenal not including less lethal means of subduing someone is in and of itself an enormous problem in the United States.

You mean like a club, mace, taser, and hand cuffs?

What more did he need?

 

[bishoptl]

Not looking to create an iPhone vs Android argument, but if your going to use a phone to cover something like this, why not use one that allows you to switch out batteries?

This is the greatest post I have seen tonight

 

[Feep]

The guy who did the fucking autopsy said it didn't provide enough information to reconstruct the shooting, but the posters in this thread think they can do it based on the NYT article about the autopsy.

Whatever. Write whatever story feeds your outrage the most.

Agreed.

Sidenote: Oh shit, I know you, you're that really good Cracked writer.

<3

 

[Angelus Errare]

You mean like a club, mace, taser, and hand cuffs?

What more did he need?

For black people? Elephant tranqs.

 

[JBourne]

Sounds like what the protestors were saying.

I think this has been the case just about every night. The community isn't tearing itself apart.

 

[Renzoku]

Android is the OS of the coming revolution confirmed.

 

[FlowersisBritish]

If I was a parent in the area, I probably wouldn't have my kids outside around there.

To give context, the curfew wasn't supposed to happen. This was supposed to be a peaceful protest. She probably let him out because he really wanted to be out there since this is something important. I would do the same. She didn't expect there to be teargas and rubber bullets

 

[EscoBlades]

For black people? Elephant tranqs.

2 shots. Can never tell what level of black magician strength they have.

 

[Measley]

You mean like a club, mace, taser, and hand cuffs?

What more did he need?

When dealing with unarmed black people, you clearly need guns.

 

[Effect]

Vice is beating the breaks off of CNN/MSNBC right now. Outstanding coverage.

Liking this interview they're doing.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

Nm, found it; wow, a cop really said that to a reporter. Or I'll shoot you in the face.

The face.

I mean come on guys.

Forgetting about the wrongness of it for a sec, how stupid do you have to be to utter a thread like that in front of cameras? It's either a failing of basic intelligence, or just a complete lack of people skills. Both of which you would think, would be required to hold a badge.

 

[ronito]

The guy who did the fucking autopsy said it didn't provide enough information to reconstruct the shooting, but the posters in this thread think they can do it based on the NYT article about the autopsy.

Whatever. Write whatever story feeds your outrage the most.

Were there bullet holes?
Yes?
I'm outraged.

 

[LiK]

Not looking to create an iPhone vs Android argument, but if you're going to use a phone to cover something like this, why not use one that allows you to switch out batteries?

This is the greatest post I have seen tonight

haha, indeed.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

2 shots. Can never tell what level of black magician strength they have.

I just got a push notification from CNN. It says Mr. Brown was shot at least six times according to the family attorney.

 

[GameGuru59]

Not looking to create an iPhone vs Android argument, but if you're going to use a phone to cover something like this, why not use one that allows you to switch out batteries?

This... so much.

 

[ishibear]

Yeah let's blame parents for police throwing tear gas at their children.

People this is happening in a public area. There's no telling what the circumstances are for the people affected.

 

[EscoBlades]

I just got a push notification from CNN. It says Mr. Brown was shot at least six times according to the family attorney.

I know. I was referring to Angelus' post about elephant tranq.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Forgetting about the wrongness of it for a sec, how stupid do you have to be to utter a thread like that in front of cameras? It's either a failing of basic intelligence, or just a complete lack of people skills. Both of which you would think, would be required to hold a badge.

Or a cop failing to grasp the smartphone era of "this shit is getting live one way of another".

 

[VeryGooster]

Not looking to create an iPhone vs Android argument, but if you're going to use a phone to cover something like this, why not use one that allows you to switch out batteries?

Or even a portable charger.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Tim has found an iPhone cable.

Is like Cloverfield all over again.

 

[slit]

Tim has found an iPhone cable.

Good, I was really on pins and needles waiting for a resolution.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Been at work all day, but I gather since the autopsy didn't fit the narrative of what the family/witnesses were saying the family asked for another one? And now there's 3 being performed? I haven't been up to date since I don't have access at work, but from what I'm seeing, no bulletholes to the back is a pretty big problem with the previous story of what happened.

 

[Chezzymann]

Tim has found an iPhone cable.

YEAH! Awesome news.

 

[Gonzalez]

People this is happening in a public area. There's no telling what the circumstances are for the people affected.

Still you don't bring your child to a rally when on the previous nights rally you know some jackass looter shot someone else that was protesting.