Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Time for some civic consciousness. Militarism is being held up by the powers that be and the MSM. This is not how protests should be dealt with, period. You identify the trouble makers and detain them. You don't intimidate and threaten the people exercising THEIR FUCKING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
 
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Dang too cute and so messed up at the same time.
 
This is flat out insanity. How on earth can the police be allowed to gas an ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD? Considering the intense effect the canisters have on healthy adults, what if an elderly/infirm person, a sleeping baby or a small child trying to sleep nearby chokes on some fumes that get through the windows and dies?? I mean seriously, this is rediculous, the police are supposed to be the ones upholding law and order yet they've done nothing but gradually turn the town into a dangerous war zone from the beginning. They are flat out criminals at this point, it's like watching a third world country with an imperial guard, just that live bullets haven't been fired in mass yet.

I guess Obama is just limp and helpless at this point or too worried about stepping into the fray? Does neither he not the federal government really not have any recourse at this point or do they just not care and they're going to just stand back and let a modern city be torn to shreds by a rogue police force? I don't get it. This is mindblowing to see unfold. Will police literally gunning down protesters cause them to do anything? I mean does it take at this point?

We've been over this. It's a black community. America does not give a shit about black communities.
 
Last update from me, I'm not sticking around for the press conference. Hopefully things will be calmer tomorrow, but I don't see how that's possible.

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Well that's what police use to fire tear gas. How else do people think these are launched?

That isn't what people are reacting to. People aren't going "Oh my God I can't believe tear gas comes from a grenade launcher!" People are going "OH MY GOD THEY HAVE A GRENADE LAUNCHER."

That's what people are saying.
 
If I was a decent quick freehand artist I'd illustrate a political cartoon of the troopers, the pd, the governor, etc just pissing on the constitution.
 
This. Either the governor or Obama needs to get higher powers in there and fucking tear that police department apart.

Its reached the point (probably a long time ago) where that department has no position of power anymore. Their post is untenable.

There really needs to be charges, custodial sentences and dismissals from service for all of them.
 
That isn't what people are reacting to. People aren't going "Oh my God I can't believe tear gas comes from a grenade launcher!" People are going "OH MY GOD THEY HAVE A GRENADE LAUNCHER."

That's what people are saying.
Which is what I don't understand. Police need them to launch tear gas.

Before they used to use those single shot grenade launchers Vietnam era style. They got replaced with these.
 
Just started following and it seems like this is being handled poorly just on all sides, what a disastrous mess.

see, thing is, one side are civilians, the other are a force of supposedly highly trained and highly paid professionals that are supposed to protect the civilians at any cost... they shouldn't fuck up at all, let alone on this level. I can understand it might be hard for civilians and casual protesters to know what the fuck they are supposed to do right now... just shut up and go home? stop making noise? be arrested for trivial bullshit because its bothering the poor policemen?
 
Well that's what police use to fire tear gas. How else do people think these are launched?

Yeah guys come on. It's just a cop in full tactical gear using a grenade launcher to shoot tear gas in peaceful neighborhoods in the middle of the night. Y'all never seen that before?

/s
 
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@jermeyscahill @ggreenwald @johnjcook FYI your journalist @rdevro has been detained going to St. Louis County jail in Clayton
 
So at what point does the entire police department(s) there get arrested for terrorism?

Never.

I'm not sure why people don't understand that this isn't nearly as deep in the mainstream as it is for people here. I don't care if all three major networks are reporting on it.

This happened in a----

We've been over this. It's a black community. America does not give a shit about black communities.

...Please, understand this. Please. Please.
 
Which is what I don't understand. Police need them to launch tear gas.

Before they used to use those single shot grenade launchers Vietnam era style. They got replaced with these.

You can't really expect everyone to know that <_< I thought they were just throwing them until a few years ago.
 
I just can't grasp what the police are trying to accomplish. Anyone?


they've gone so far down the wrong track i think they're trying to provoke a violent reaction so they can run a "see? This is what we have to put up with!" narrative.

Right now - they are well over the tip point - no one will -ever- trust the police force in this area again. They know it and right now a lot of what is happening is criminal
 
Never.

I'm not sure why people don't understand that this isn't nearly as deep in the mainstream as it is for people here. I don't care if all three major networks are reporting on it.

This happened in a----



...Please, understand this. Please. Please.

Ugh, so depressing and sad for the people who live there.
 
This is a disaster. Captain Johnson isn't handling this that much better than Ferguson PD at all.

Sadly, he seemed to blow whatever goodwill he had rather quickly. Check this Vox article, he personally cracked down on journalists almost right after his press conference:
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6043247/ferguson-police-media-harassment
On Sunday night, three days after citizens of Ferguson marched alongside Missouri Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson, in gratitude for Johnson taking over the heavy-handed police presence, and mere hours after Johnson gave an emotional speech apologizing for the police violence and promising its end, the savior of Ferguson ordered three journalists arrested for witnessing an apparently unprompted police crackdown on protesters.

Shortly after police in Ferguson lobbed tear gas and fired high-tech noise cannons at protesters, three reporters from major outlets attempted to walk down the street to talk to the protesters. Police approached them and ordered them to leave the area. Though the police had no legal authority to do this — it was a public street with no imminent danger — the reporters, one of them a veteran war correspondent, had perhaps heard enough reports of police in Ferguson intimidating and arresting journalists to know they should leave.

"Capt Johnson said walk away or be arrested. I started walking away. They followed and arrested us," one of the reporters, Robert Klemko of Sports Illustrated, tweeted. Another of the reporters posted a video clip showing Johnson ordering that the journalists be arrested and cuffed.

Their zip-cord cuffs were cut minutes later, but Johnson's arrests were nonetheless a success. The three reporters, and others in the area, now understood that crossing the police's ever-tightening list of restrictions on journalists, stated and unstated, no matter how arbitrary or unlawful, came with personal, bodily risk. And the police under Johnson's command saw very clearly how they were to treat the media.

To summarize and simplify, in a situation like this, there are three types of potential authority figures:
1. Those who say the wrong things and do the wrong actions.
2. Those who say the right things to de-escalate, and then take the wrong actions.
3. Those who say the right things, and back it up with the right actions.

Ideally, you want a 3. After reading that Vox excerpt, Johnson's looking more and more like a 2. And that's a problem, because in some ways, a 2 is more dangerous to the situation than a 1. When a 2 inevitably damages whatever trust they've built up, it makes it more difficult to trust anyone else who comes along with the right words, whether they would've ended up being another 2 or a 3.
 
I think I have reached the point where I consider these actions treason and those police officers enemies of the state. They are just rolling through neighborhoods doing whatever the fuck they want.

Someone needs to stop them.
 
Which is what I don't understand. Police need them to launch tear gas.

Before they used to use those single shot grenade launchers Vietnam era style. They got replaced with these.

I don't think I understand why you can't get your head around why anybody would be shocked to see police firing a grenade launcher, so I'm going to end this discussion by simply reiterating that the image of a police officer firing a grenade launcher is what people are reacting to and leave you to your own good judgment to piece out why people would find that disturbing.
 
I think I have reached the point where I consider these actions treason and those police officers enemies of the state. They are just rolling through neighborhoods doing whatever the fuck they want.

Someone needs to stop them.

That doesn't make then enemies of the state. They're doing exactly what the state intends to do.

It certainly does make them enemies of the people though.
 
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Ryan Devereaux @rdevro · 39m
Police are driving through a residential neighbor, a side street off Florissant, with an APC shooting gas canisters

Ryan Devereaux @rdevro · 38m
Rounds keep going off, we took cover in a yard

Ryan Devereaux @rdevro · 36m
So much smoke in this neighborhood right now, seems like the police succeeded in clearing out the rest of the demonstrators
 
Imagine how much greater race relations in America would be if this was practiced at an institutional level.

Unfortunately too many people in America have this idea that black people have to earn it first! They keep acting like this and they'll never get it. Once they straighten up then we can begin talks about equality. Before there can be justice there has to be peace.

And other bullshit.
 
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