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Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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not again fuck
 
ramuh said:
Being called that by an African-American Cop is demeaning. Being called that while being a severe minority in school (all grades) is demeaning. Told it's not "white" or "cracker" time to use the restroom is demeaning. When the word is used as insult against your race, that is wrong. It's not me just saying I don't like the word cracker. It's because it has been used against me in a negative racial way. So no I don't like the word "cracker" when if refers to white people, only to Saltines.
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Yes, but cracker is a reactionary term toward racist oppression. At the end of the day you are still going to be living in a world that isn't constantly finding ways to oppress you. Derogatory terms used towards People of Colour are used to remind them of a vast history of injustice toward them. It's important to understand what is going on there.
 
Every night at midnight the same exact thing happens.

It feels like now there's just a de facto midnight curfew and they just aren't bothering to say anything.
 
dreams said:
Funny that you can relegate when the word "cracker" was used against you to a few moments in time.

Now imagine a word dehumanizing you and being used against you for your entire life in the entirety of your country and not just your school/neighbourhood.
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I would imagine that the school life/neighborhood ( from 6 grade until 12th) constitutes my "entire" life in that community. That is why I left. Just because I don't live there doesn't make that word less painful to me.
 
ramuh said:
I would imagine that the school life/neighborhood ( from 6 grade until 12th) constitutes my "entire" life in that community. That is why I left. Just because I don't live there doesn't make that word less painful to me.
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Your entire life you are currently living. Please. Don't be that guy. You know what I'm talking about. SMH.
 
Fiction said:
Every night at 12 am. Nice on the line of protesters forming up facing the crowd to try and calm tensions.
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Just saw a cop come out and talk to the peaceful protesters pointing out the trouble makers and how they need to focus on them.

At least that's what it looked like.
 
Jakten said:
Yes, but cracker is a reactionary term toward racist oppression. At the end of the day you are still going to be living in a world that isn't constantly finding ways to oppress you. Derogatory terms used towards People of Colour are used to remind them of a vast history of injustice toward them. It's important to understand what is going on there.
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So you are excusing a racial group using racial terms in a negative way against another race as "reactionary"? Are you trying to excuse it??? That is stupid. isms occurs no matter your creed/nationality/race. If you think for one minute that the fact I was berated in racial terms is somehow linked to the fact that another racial element in our society was brutalized and had much racism directed against them you are DEAD wrong.

You need to understand I am not taking away from what happened here and i agree with the mostly peaceful protesters. I wouldn't stand for it, I glad they are not. But don't trivialize my racial experiences because of the color of my skin.
 
Bornstellar said:
Who are you to say what I bloody feel like when I'm subject to racist terminology? What gives you the right to tell me how I should feel?
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I have the monopoly on being offended. You therefore cannot be offended. That's all I am hearing. As if two unrelated people could possibly be not mutually exclusive in their feelings.
 
Trouble said:
Weirdly one of those guys almost got in a fight with someone trying to calm him down just a minute or so before joining the line.
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You had one guy trying to keep things calm at all costs, the other was losing his cool because the media was being ordered away again and knows what's coming if they do get the cameras shushed away.
 
It's really exciting to see the protesters attempt to create a line. It shows how far they've come in a short amount of time. It's like watching new leadership rise in front of us.
 
BearPawB said:
No real person gets offended by cracker....it doesn't even mean anything.

The nword has deep historical meaning and context. Comparing the two is asinine
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But they're both racial slurs. The history matters but only up to a point; they're both meant to demean and dehumanize the people they're used against.

We can't be picky and start saying some slurs are okay while others should be banned, because that can come off as saying "well, your (insert group name) feelings being hurt isn't as much of a concern as their feelings being hurt", or to a more extreme example "we think you can handle being called a slur but we don't think they (insert group name) are strong enough to handle being called one". Both ways are pretty messed up.

It's a good thing to understand the history behind them but for the sake of trying a clean sweep away with racism, it would be a good idea to acknowledge that all slurs are bad and on an individual level a slur can (and likely will) affect two different people who otherwise are members of the same group, quite differently, although depending on other factors the degrees in separation of those differing responses (if just randomly looking from responses from people of that group) will differ greatly.

EDIT: I am sure that for the people who use "cracker" as a racial slur it absolutely does mean something to them. Different words have different weights in differing power structures, but any power structure is a power structure, no matter how it fares relative to another one.
 
Are we really trying to determine the significance of the word cracker.

A word that isn't blocked on any message board, anywhere.

C'mon guys. Dont be silly.
 
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