Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue

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Joe said:
the problem is you can call them racists all you want but they'll never realize it. in their world they are not racist, they just appreciate and defend cops to a fault. michael brown was a legitimate thug in their eyes. you could sit down with them and have a civil 8 hour discussion with them about racism and it would still never click.
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The blind leading the blind.
 
Joe said:
the problem is you can call them racists all you want but they'll never realize it. in their world they are not racist, they just appreciate and defend cops to a fault. michael brown was a legitimate thug in their eyes. you could sit down with them and have a civil 8 hour discussion with them about racism and it would still never click.
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It's the same thing with the "War on Women".
 
Peace out, dudes!

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Daren Wilson supporter Tina Morrison (left): "It was a good shooting, you know. It was a good kill."
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I know this painting poorly composed photoshop is politically and morally offensive, but I can't help but be fascinated by it as a work of art. Why is it that the American ultra right is so talentless? Of course the artist has technical skill, but their ability to convey ideas artistically is so limited and literal. There's no synthesis of the ideas the artist wants to convey. Literally everything the artist wants to discuss is thrown onto the canvas - a fully rendered officer, his hyper masculine appearance, protecting a blond haired white girl, who's clutching a teddy bear, and shielded by the officer's angel wings, which are adorned with stars and stripes, and behind them is another American flag, and in that image a superimposed eagle looking down, in the background, golden wheat fields in 'heartland' America, but the color pallet suggests some kind of dystopia, America in peril... And on top of all that is a fascist, racist inscription in shitty calligraphy for those who might not have gleaned the point.

The lack of subtlety is astounding. And you see this in American radical right wing art all the time. Why is that?
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
Why would you even think it was okay to have peace signs when talking about supporting a guy that shot someone?

I mean, regardless.
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Because they're racists, plain and simple. They don't believe that Michael Brown's death is a tragic loss of life. Something that everyone acting logically can agree on regardless if you believe Wilson's shooting was justified or not. So they're out there using the language that a hunter uses after he kills a marked target, or that a marksman would use on a firing range after winning a competition. Holding up peace signs in the wake of a senseless murder. As if his life somehow meant less than that of another human being's life.

And it's absolutely sickening. :\
 
kame-sennin said:
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I know this [s]painting[/s] poorly composed photoshop is politically and morally offensive, but I can't help but be fascinated by it as a work of art. Why is it that the American ultra right is so talentless? Of course the artist has technical skill, but their ability to convey ideas artistically is so limited and literal. There's no synthesis of the ideas the artist wants to convey. Literally everything the artist wants to discuss is thrown onto the canvas - a fully rendered officer, his hyper masculine appearance, protecting a blond haired white girl, who's clutching a teddy bear, and shielded by the officer's angel wings, which are adorned with stars and stripes, and behind them is [I]another[/I] American flag, and in that image a superimposed eagle looking down, in the background, golden wheat fields in 'heartland' America, but the color pallet suggests some kind of dystopia, America in peril... And on top of all that is a fascist, racist inscription in shitty calligraphy for those who might not have gleaned the point.

The lack of subtlety is astounding. [B]And you see this in American radical right wing art all the time. Why is that?[/B][/QUOTE]

Their target audience would miss anything that wasn't immediately obvious at face value.
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Sophia said:
Because they're racists, plain and simple. They don't believe that Michael Brown's death is a tragic loss of life. Something that everyone acting logically can agree on regardless if you believe Wilson's shooting was justified or not. So they're out there using the language that a hunter uses after he kills a marked target, or that a marksman would use on a firing range after winning a competition. Holding up peace signs in the wake of a senseless murder. As if his life somehow meant less than that of another human being's life.

And it's absolutely sickening. :\
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I dunno, man, that display of ignorance and hate for simple logic about other humans just is a little incomprehensible to me.

I get racism. I get prejudice. I get hate. But at the end of the day, I'd like to believe people at least have a little morality.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
I dunno, man, that display of ignorance and hate for simple logic about other humans just is a little incomprehensible to me.

I get racism. I get prejudice. I get hate. But at the end of the day, I'd like to believe people at least have a little morality.
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When you've lived in a world that has told you that treating certain people as sub-human is okay, that it is acceptable, possibly even a great thing, it can be difficult to change those beliefs. In some cases, it might arguably even be impossible. Their morality is horribly twisted and it usually takes a life-altering event for such things to be changed.

Personally, it's not incomprehensible to me. I understand their reasoning for ignorance and hatred. But goddamn is it despicable and horrible.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
Why would you even think it was okay to have peace signs when talking about supporting a guy that shot someone?

I mean, regardless.
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They want to provoke a reaction that'll cause a police riot and they'll get to see some of the dark skin people they hate so much get hurt.
 
kame-sennin said:
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I know this painting poorly composed photoshop is politically and morally offensive, but I can't help but be fascinated by it as a work of art. Why is it that the American ultra right is so talentless? Of course the artist has technical skill, but their ability to convey ideas artistically is so limited and literal. There's no synthesis of the ideas the artist wants to convey. Literally everything the artist wants to discuss is thrown onto the canvas - a fully rendered officer, his hyper masculine appearance, protecting a blond haired white girl, who's clutching a teddy bear, and shielded by the officer's angel wings, which are adorned with stars and stripes, and behind them is another American flag, and in that image a superimposed eagle looking down, in the background, golden wheat fields in 'heartland' America, but the color pallet suggests some kind of dystopia, America in peril... And on top of all that is a fascist, racist inscription in shitty calligraphy for those who might not have gleaned the point.

The lack of subtlety is astounding. And you see this in American radical right wing art all the time. Why is that?
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Why? Because their dog whistles are broken and most of the good symbols have been already taken. Various political ideas can be abstracted, but institutionalized racism will always rely on crude means to shove its point across. Note how the text in the image has to explicitly state that the subject matter is "different", which in the modern era is as far as the artist can go before a raging shitstorm comes down upon his head.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
And a bit overkill. I'm not saying I don't think people are "that racist". I'm saying it's incomprehensible to me at times.
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I think the poster was trying to show the horrible extremity of what people are capable of doing when they believe they are in the right but are too blind, racist, hateful or whatever you want to call it to see that they are completely in the wrong.
 
Evil_Silver said:
I think the poster was trying to show the extremity of what people are capable of doing when they believe they are in the right but are too blind, racist, hateful or whatever you want to call it to see that they are completely in the wrong.
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Wish they had opted to link it instead of directly posting the image. I really don't want to stare at two dead people every time I scroll up or down on the page. ><;
 
Indicate said:
I know you're trying to prove a point, but that picture is really disgusting.
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It's horrifying imagery but sometimes it's necessary to remind us all what "decent" people are capable of abiding.

What we're seeing happen today isn't that much different. You have people willing to support police brutality, excessive use of force and abuse of authority because they see it hurting people that they hate. The fact that they can hide behind the guise of being ignorant of these abuses and just supporting law enforcement to further antagonize the victims is the icing on the cake.
 
kame-sennin said:
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I know this painting poorly composed photoshop is politically and morally offensive, but I can't help but be fascinated by it as a work of art. Why is it that the American ultra right is so talentless? Of course the artist has technical skill, but their ability to convey ideas artistically is so limited and literal. There's no synthesis of the ideas the artist wants to convey. Literally everything the artist wants to discuss is thrown onto the canvas - a fully rendered officer, his hyper masculine appearance, protecting a blond haired white girl, who's clutching a teddy bear, and shielded by the officer's angel wings, which are adorned with stars and stripes, and behind them is another American flag, and in that image a superimposed eagle looking down, in the background, golden wheat fields in 'heartland' America, but the color pallet suggests some kind of dystopia, America in peril... And on top of all that is a fascist, racist inscription in shitty calligraphy for those who might not have gleaned the point.

The lack of subtlety is astounding. And you see this in American radical right wing art all the time. Why is that?
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You also missed the twin towers in the background left side.
 
turtle553 said:
You also missed the twin towers in the background left side.
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That painting is probably just recycled 9/11 iconography, but one of the things that shocked me when I was in the South was all the memorabilia devoted to the attacks, well after a decade after it happened, as if the event has taken on religious significance.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
And a bit overkill. I'm not saying I don't think people are "that racist". I'm saying it's incomprehensible to me at times.
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You were having difficulty comprehending how someone could separate their racism from their morality. I'm trying to point out that they believe their racism IS moral. When you compare the image of the Wilson supporters to the one from the 1930's south, you see the same thing. Whites celebrating the murder of black men. In the 1930's that crowd would have told you that you were a fool for not believing in racist ideals. They would have told you that the separation of the races was mandated by god, and that the supremacy of the white race over the colored races was the "natural order". If violence was necessary to maintain that "law and order", than that would not be immoral, but the execution of justice. That was the ideology then, and that is the ideology now. The only difference is that white supremacy is no longer allowed to be discussed unveiled in a public forum.
 
kess said:
That painting is probably just recycled 9/11 iconography, but one of the things that shocked me when I was in the South was all the memorabilia devoted to the attacks, well after a decade after it happened, as if the event has taken on religious significance.
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This is why the terrorists won. If we had treated it like business as usual, America would be a much better place today.
 
alstein said:
This is why the terrorists won. If we had treated it like business as usual, America would be a much better place today.
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Yes, I was just thinking the other day how it was very ironic how we kept getting told not to fall into fear yet so many toxic decisions were made out of the hysteria those attacks caused.
 
I can see the funeral day going either way. Mass protests or quiet as a mouse.

I hope for the latter, but know some assholes are going to take the time to politicize the day.
 
Why are people in here so comfortable with painting in such broad strokes about "the right wing" and "conservatives"? Do you honestly believe that the majority of people who identify with conservative politics are inherently racist?
 
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