Tropes vs Women author Sarkeesian vacates home following online threats

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Oh, I know what you meant. The point I'm trying to make is that people don't even seem to realize what they're doing when they use that term. They're creating a false "other" that alleviates responsibility, and places a portion of the blame on a nebulous, vague third party.

It's assisting in blame-shifting, however slight. It's not semantics at all. It's paying attention to the words you're using and how you're using them.

It's pretty important that people stop immediately going "THE INTERNET" and indirectly making it harder to address what's wrong. It feeds into the idea that there's nothing to be done about shit like this because "THE INTERNET" is an intangible concept, as opposed to what it really is - just people talking.

Discuss the people. Don't complain about the communication method. If I got a threatening phone-call, I'm not going to say "Ugh, Verizon." Basically: citing, complaining about, or referring to "the internet" is obfuscation. You're feeding into it if that's your first response to any situations similar to this fucked up bit of business.

Also - any citing of "The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory" should be retired, especially considering it's been thoroughly disproven, most clearly and easily, by the man who drew the strip that introduced it into the world.

Anyway, there are a lot more men who need to start telling other men that what they're doing, the way they're behaving, and their manner of thought is thoroughly fucked up. Because right now there are a lot of men who are content to just let some of this shit slide, because it doesn't directly affect them, and speaking out against this sort of dehumanizing behavior isn't worth the potential hit to their enjoyment of the games.
This is a really great post, Bobby.

(Love you).
I can also totally understand why some people might look at this skeptically and wonder if it was at least somewhat manufactured, because there's some logic that can go into that assumption. Her Youtube viewer numbers seem to be dropping rapidly and the timing of this incident does seem a bit convenient, especially since the Quinn fiasco has turned the gaming realm of the internet into a hotbed lately.
How is this understandable at all? Women get harassed all the time on the internet BECAUSE of their gender. It's amazing that you even consider a possibility that this is some sort of subterfuge. It implies that you think this kind of thing doesn't happen.
Wait, so anonymous Twitter trolls are now representative of the entirety of the tech community? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate what people are doing to miss Sarkeesian, but is that really "proof" that the tech community as a whole hates / despises women?
What other industries have this problem with harassment of women? Why is that, when a woman speaks up about these issues from a female perspective, she gets immediately receives gendered attacks?
Am I alone in having doubts that anyone (regardless of gender) will be harassed by internet trolls should you open your mouth about anything?
Have you read the kinds of comments she's getting? They're comments specifically aimed at her GENDER.
 
Despicable. I goddamn hate the idiots sending death threats to her. I hope FBI nabs their fat hairy asses and puts them in the federal pen. Lets see how tough they are there.

As for harassment in tech tweet, I was reading the other day about rampant sexism and harassment of women in Silicon Valley, and how prostitution is a booming profession there. Although I wouldn't through /v/ users under "tech" umbrella, it is a legit concern.
 
These conversations tend to go poorly enough as it is that both sides can benefit from taking some care to not unnecessarily throw more fuel on the fire.

Understood completely.

Further, Apologies if there was any misunderstanding on my part. I know Aeana is a woman, wasn't trying to make it sound like I thought she was advocating for basic negativity or anything. That's my bad if it came off that way, and I'm sorry.
 
She absolutely has the right of self defense, but be careful about putting the foxes in charge of the hen house; the State is continually more responsible for the initiation of force against peaceful people than any other kind of entity in the history of mankind.

I'm...not sure if that's true. I'm pretty sure more individual violent crimes occur daily (in say, the US) than state sanctioned uses of force against peaceful people
 
So when you quote people it cuts out the quotes in their post... But I think that works here anyway.

The response to Sarkeesian is as if she is saying something other than what she actually is.

A lot of people come to her work with a preconceived notion that she is degrading and demeaning their hobby, and then proceed to do precisely the thing they often accuse her of doing: cherry pick supporting evidence removed completely from context. They look at the bulletpoints and brief moments and remove them from the point she is making.

"But she mentioned this one game I like!" Yes, but she never said it was inherently bad. It's merely an example of her overall point, and frequently she even says that most of these examples, taken on their own, are not exceptionally problematic but rather are part of a much larger picture that should be considered as a whole. But acknowledging that would require listening to what she is actually saying instead of coming to her videos looking to find the ways in which she is wrong and therefor can immediately be dismissed without any introspection or change.
 
I... Don't understand this. Sarkeesian doesn't even cut particularly deep when it comes to female representation in games. Mainly she points out the massive quantity of poor representations.

How is that a dangerous idea? What's up with the anti-SJW rage being so overboard recently?

Much of it is through immaturity and ignorance. By not really understanding what the trending topics are really about, people can see what's going on in places like twitter at face value and think that what's happening is gender-based mud slinging, so they join the party with a knee-jerk mind set. It's reactionary and requires little thought -- perfect for the internet!

Wanting to defend your own side is pretty instinctual, even if you don't know the full story.
 
I remember the days when if you didn't like a person or didn't like what that person had to say, you would either agree to disagree or just ignore them altogether? What happened to those days? Probably a figment of my imagination. Now people just harass or threaten. How did it escalate so quickly? I'm sad now. =(

I find merit in what Anita does and what she says, even if I don't agree with some of the methods used to argue some of the points. But...to threaten her? Man... very little empathy to go around in this world anymore. =(
Looking at history, I'd say those days never really existed, it was just less obvious without the internet
 
Social Justice Warrior is an negative term that's been propagated as a means to sarcastically diminish people who publicly approve of and argue for the idea that more people should like the things we like, and that the things we like maybe shouldn't be so inherently dismissive and dehumanizing to people who don't look like us.

Us in that instance usually being being male enthusiasts of any given hobby.

So basically it's like calling someone a White Knight.

Pretty much every label used in these arguments has negative annotations in some way: SJW, Feminist, Anti-Feminist, Gamer, Otaku...

You know what, just fuck all labels. Be a goddamn human being before you call yourself anything else.
 
We should probably make an RPG out of this to bring it to a level many on the outside looking in will understand: social Justice Warrior, White Knight...Egalitarian Mage?

White Knight with Social Justice Warrior skills sounds op, would main
 
People with mental issues aren't just born into the world slinging death threats at people who make youtube videos. I think it's a bit insulting how you're trying to pin all of this on them.

Except there have been studies (linked it earlier in the thread) that shows that internet trolls usually DO have deep seeded psychological issues. I'm not sure why you're insulted by this fact. I'm not pinning the blame on anyone specifically, nor am I saying that anyone with any sort of mental issue is instantly a misogynist... Only that these people who would deliver death threats via twitter aren't normal rational people.
 
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Wait, so anonymous Twitter trolls are now representative of the entirety of the tech community? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate what people are doing to miss Sarkeesian, but is that really "proof" that the tech community as a whole hates / despises women? Am I alone in having doubts that anyone (regardless of gender) will be harassed by internet trolls should you open your mouth about anything?

I think you misunderstood what she said. She's not painting the tech community as though they're the problem. She's saying that women in the tech community are unfairly targeted. That doesn't necessarily mean it's by members of the tech community.
 
That's a shallow incorrect reading of the situation and offensive to those of us with MH issues who manage to go through life without harassing people online.

Since when are mentally ill people one big group? I suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts and I, just like you, don't harass people online, but his comment doesn't offend me. Just because you and me don't harass people online doesn't mean that those who do commit such acts can't suffer from mental illnesses. You're not going to convince me that people that stalk women online and threaten violence and rape are mentally stable...
 
Except there have been studies (linked it earlier in the thread) that shows that internet trolls usually DO have deep seeded psychological issues. I'm not sure why you're insulted by this fact. I'm not pinning the blame on anyone specifically, nor am I saying that anyone with any sort of mental issue is instantly a misogynist... Only that these people who would deliver death threats via twitter aren't normal rational people.
I have no problem believing that "normal, rational people" would deliver them. We've seen "normal, rational people" commit genocide.

I'm sure plenty of assholes have mental health issues. I'm also sure plenty of them are "normal, rational people."
 
So basically it's like calling someone a White Knight.

Pretty much every label used in these arguments has negative annotations in some way: SJW, Feminist, Anti-Feminist, Gamer, Otaku...

You know what, just fuck all labels. Be a goddamn human being before you call yourself anything else.

Labels are necessary and important. It's context that people should be more aware of.
 
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Wait, so anonymous Twitter trolls are now representative of the entirety of the tech community? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate what people are doing to miss Sarkeesian, but is that really "proof" that the tech community as a whole hates / despises women? Am I alone in having doubts that anyone (regardless of gender) will be harassed by internet trolls should you open your mouth about anything?
You need to reread what she wrote, because you are taking way, way too much from it. Nowhere does she say it imply that the text community hates women, or that Twitter assholes solely represent the tech community. She said a simple thing: women in this industry and community need to stop being harassed. There is, from my experience and observations, a disproportionate amount of harassment directed at women in tech or other traditionally male dominated fields. As someone in tech, I've seen a pretty widespread boys club mentality and no small amount of gross attitudes about women. Stop reading into it an accusatory generalization that isn't there.
 
There's not a lot you can do against the perpetrator of this harassment. But I think there are some things you can do to discourage more instances of it:

1. Express your rejection of the harassment
2. Do not take the opportunity to express your rejection against the abused
3. And instead, if you can, focus on qualities of the abused that you think are worthy of praise

In that way, harassers will not see themselves justified or excused, and will see their actions having the opposite effect of the one they intended.
 
Except there have been studies (linked it earlier in the thread) that shows that internet trolls usually DO have deep seeded psychological issues. I'm not sure why you're insulted by this fact. I'm not pinning the blame on anyone specifically, nor am I saying that anyone with any sort of mental issue is instantly a misogynist... Only that these people who would deliver death threats via twitter aren't normal rational people.

Its more that pointing to "mental issues" in these kind of dialogues (or in criminal cases or whatever) seems to have the overall effect of just "otherizing" the perpetrators. "Oh its not like normal people are capable of these things, just people with mental issues"
 
The #NotAllMen argument...

Seriously, though. Yes, it is representative of anti-woman attitude in the tech-industry as a whole.

Here is another example about Women in Science.

The Not All Men argument? What? If you could reply to me like a human being instead of throwing some hashtag my way I'll gladly listen to what you have to say...
 
You're not going to convince me that people that stalk women online and threaten violence and rape are mentally stable...

Maybe not. But what about the people in this very thread minimizing her experience by saying "Welp, Internet," or saying that this isn't indicative of a broader trend, or suggesting that these threats are either fake or beneficial to her? I don't think you'd say those people are unstable.

This issue goes far beyond the actual real-life threats. Those are just the ugliest manifestation. There are plenty of "normal" guys that help perpetuate this kind of atmosphere.
 
I have no problem believing that "normal, rational people" would deliver them. We've seen "normal, rational" people commit genocide.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence my friend. I linked my study linking internet trolling to psychopathic tendencies... I would gladly accept if you have some studies showing what you're claiming or proof that an otherwise perfectly normal person would suddenly decide to attack someone promoting feminism either physically or emotionally through threats of violence.

Its more that pointing to "mental issues" in these kind of dialogues (or in criminal cases or whatever) seems to have the overall effect of just "otherizing" the perpetrators. "Oh its not like normal people are capable of these things, just people with mental issues"

In this instance, however, we are directly discussing a person (or persons) who doesn't just disagree with an issue, but is threatening great physical violence against an individual and their families. To remove the mental health discussion from the topic is doing a huge disservice.
 
Looking at history, I'd say those days never really existed, it was just less obvious without the internet

Probably true.

If you take a step back, if the people who didn't like her would actually just ignore her, it would probably serve a much better purpose as her work wouldn't get near as much play. It would obviously still be meaningful work, but no way would it be this big.

Stupid is as stupid does though.
 
Honestly, as much as people blame the internet, it's capable of far more good than harm in these situations. The internet cannot make anyone act like a douchebag. What happens is people who are already douchebags in one way or another use the internet as a place to voice their opinions. In a way this is actually a very good thing, because it makes it far easier to see the issues, and to an extent understand the mindset behind them. There will always be assholes in this world. But seeing someone else be a huge asshole can also help you reflect on your own actions. And that's besides the fact that the internet is one of the best tools for spreading positive information. All in all, I'd rather people realize and see the douchebags in society rather than just pretend they don't exist because they're not very visible
 
This really has reached the danger zone hasn't it? Anita's just trying to fight the good fight and she catches heat from a bunch of insecure mofos on the web. Can't say I blame her for leaving the home.

Some of the cats need to calm their wannabe gangster-asses down.
 
Since when are mentally ill people one big group? I suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts and I, just like you, don't harass people online, but his comment doesn't offend me. Just because you and me don't harass people online doesn't mean that those who do commit such acts can't suffer from mental illnesses. You're not going to convince me that people that stalk women online and threaten violence and rape are mentally stable...

If you think only mentally ill people are capable of harassing women and of misogyny then I really don't know what to tell you.
 
The Not All Men argument? What? If you could reply to me like a human being instead of throwing some hashtag my way I'll gladly listen to what you have to say...

Your post essentially boiled down to the argument: "Not everyone women gets treated this way and not every man harasses women."

Which basically undermines the issue.
 
Maybe not. But what about the people in this very thread minimizing her experience by saying "Welp, Internet," or saying that this isn't indicative of a broader trend, or suggesting that these threats are either fake or beneficial to her? I don't think you'd say those people are unstable.

This issue goes far beyond the actual real-life threats. Those are just the ugliest manifestation. There are plenty of "normal" guys that help perpetuate this kind of atmosphere.

Spot on.
 
Except there have been studies (linked it earlier in the thread) that shows that internet trolls usually DO have deep seeded psychological issues. I'm not sure why you're insulted by this fact. I'm not pinning the blame on anyone specifically, nor am I saying that anyone with any sort of mental issue is instantly a misogynist... Only that these people who would deliver death threats via twitter aren't normal rational people.

If this is true, it (a) gives the implication that people facing chronic mental health issues in their life aren't normal or rational, and it (b) lessens the reality that the problem stems from socially normalized misogyny. Both give me pause. It's not safe to assume "the mentally ill" must be at cause here unless we have specific reason to believe that for this situation. Someone being anti-social isn't the same thing as a mental health issue. Average, otherwise healthy people can be spiteful and mean, particularly when empowered through anonymity. I think assuming otherwise gives us a less clear image of the problem we're looking at.
 
This is probably the best reasoning of the geninue ire that some of these people feel. I RARELY agree with Leigh Alexander, but this is on point.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_to_be_your_audience_Gamers_are_over.php

By the turn of the millennium those were games’ only main cultural signposts: Have money. Have women. Get a gun and then a bigger gun. Be an outcast. Celebrate that. Defeat anyone who threatens you. You don’t need cultural references. You don’t need anything but gaming. Public conversation was led by a games press whose role was primarily to tell people what to buy, to score products competitively against one another, to gleefully fuel the “team sports” atmosphere around creators and companies.

...

This is hard for people who’ve drank the kool aid about how their identity depends on the aging cultural signposts of a rapidly-evolving, increasingly broad and complex medium. It’s hard for them to hear they don’t own anything, anymore, that they aren’t the world’s most special-est consumer demographic, that they have to share.

We also have to scrutinize, closely, the baffling, stubborn silence of many content creators amid these scandals, or the fact lots of stubborn, myopic internet comments happen on business and industry sites. This is hard for old-school developers who are being made redundant, both culturally and literally, in their unwillingness to address new audiences or reference points outside of blockbuster movies and comic books as their traditional domain falls into the sea around them. Of course it’s hard. It’s probably intense, painful stuff for some young kids, some older men.

But it’s unstoppable. A new generation of fans and creators is finally aiming to instate a healthy cultural vocabulary, a language of community that was missing in the days of “gamer pride” and special interest groups led by a product-guide approach to conversation with a single presumed demographic.
 
I have no problem believing that "normal, rational people" would deliver them. We've seen "normal, rational people" commit genocide.

I'm sure plenty of assholes have mental health issues. I'm also sure plenty of them are "normal, rational people."

The difference between this case and people committing genocide is that there really is no "legitimate" authority telling guys like this to do this stuff. And a rational person would realize this won't help their cause. Normal people can do incredibly horrible things, but it almost always has to be under a specific set of conditions.
 
Maybe not. But what about the people in this very thread minimizing her experience by saying "Welp, Internet," or saying that this isn't indicative of a broader trend, or suggesting that these threats are either fake or beneficial to her? I don't think you'd say those people are unstable.

This issue goes far beyond the actual real-life threats. Those are just the ugliest manifestation. There are plenty of "normal" guys that help perpetuate this kind of atmosphere.

I think there is a fundamental difference between stalking / harassing / threatening women online and disagreeing with the causes of those instances occurring. I just posted in this thread, citing various examples of other instances of death threats being made online, just asking "is this a byproduct of anonymity on the internet" or "Is this indicative of a trend specifically towards women / within the tech industry". I don't see how asking that question gets me tossed in with the "she made it up" people. I'm just asking questions and am willing to learn.

If you think only mentally ill people are capable of harassing women and of misogyny then I really don't know what to tell you.

If you just blindly assume that I think only mentally ill people do such things then I don't know what to tell you. There are various levels of harassment and misogyny and there is a good chance that "stalking and threatening rape / violence over twitter" falls into the "mentally ill" category.

Your post essentially boiled down to the argument: "Not everyone women gets treated this way and not every man harasses women."

Which basically undermines the issue.

Did you even bother reading my post?

First, I'm not making any arguments, I am asking questions towards the community.

Second, my suggestion was that perhaps this (as in this very example of a twitter user herassing Anita) is indicative of a problem of online anonymity and how anyone, regardless of gender, faces harassment and threats when he or she opens his or her mouth on any issue.

I don't understand how any suggestion of other things being at play here is instantly dismissed as "undermining the issue". Again, I am just asking a question.
 
Maybe not. But what about the people in this very thread minimizing her experience by saying "Welp, Internet," or saying that this isn't indicative of a broader trend, or suggesting that these threats are either fake or beneficial to her? I don't think you'd say those people are unstable.

This issue goes far beyond the actual real-life threats. Those are just the ugliest manifestation. There are plenty of "normal" guys that help perpetuate this kind of atmosphere.

yeah sure but this thread is SUPPOSED to be addressing this culture of personal invasion and death threats
 
Those threats are vile. I hope this idiot gets tracked down fast.

I´m glad she is reacting to this and not brushing it off. Stuff like this needs to be taken seriously, death threats are no joke - they are meant to terrorize the victim.

And people saying that this is just a publicity stunt really need to step back for a few moments and think about what they just said.

...personally, I enjoy her videos, even though I don´t always 100% agree with her, but she raises interesting points and it´s great that she kicked off such a heated discussion. That she has to hide from idiots like that guy and has to fear for her life just shows how much irrational anger certain people have.
 
3. And instead, if you can, focus on qualities of the abused that you think are worthy of praise.
I feel I haven't done this.

When I watched Anita's first video, I didn't think it was very well-argued. I didn't watch Tropes vs Women again until the most recent one was posted.

And the new vid amazing. The presentation is amazing, with clear speech and snappy editing. The evidence is comprehensive, stretching across practically every big budget AAA game in recent memory. The arguments show understanding of game structure and should be watched by anyone designing NPC interaction in open-world games.

I'm wary of going back to the early videos after my bad first impression, but I'll have to because there are some interesting arguments that I've never seen before about video games.
 
If this is true, it (a) gives the implication that people facing chronic mental health issues in their life aren't normal or rational, and it (b) lessens the reality that the problem stems from socially normalized misogyny. Both give me pause. I don't think assuming "the mentally ill" must be at cause here unless we have specific reason to believe that. Average, otherwise healthy people can be spiteful and mean, particularly when empowered through anonymity. I think assuming otherwise gives us a less clear image of the problem we're looking at.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear or verbose enough in my original message. I wasn't trying to implicate that people who have mental illnesses can't be perfectly normal or rational, but there are certainly mental diseases and conditions that can make individuals not rational either temporarily or permanently.

I'm also not trying to say that there aren't people who are just overall 'douches' and are misogynistic and that need to be addressed.

I was trying to frame it in the context of what's happening in the OP. Normal rational people do not threaten a person they've never met before online with death, rape, and murdering of loved ones. This particular part of this greater discussion is a mental health issue.
 
I never said that. I was just asking a question. We can't fix the problem until we understand the cause and that is what I am trying to figure out.

"Wait, so anonymous Twitter trolls are now representative of the entirety of the tech community? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate what people are doing to miss Sarkeesian, but is that really "proof" that the tech community as a whole hates / despises women? Am I alone in having doubts that anyone (regardless of gender) will be harassed by internet trolls should you open your mouth about anything?"

Your reply incorrectly inferred that she was making a blanket statement about the tech community. She never said that.

She was referring to harassment of women IN the tech community.

NOT harassment of women BY the tech community.
 
If this is true, it (a) gives the implication that people facing chronic mental health issues in their life aren't normal or rational, and it (b) lessens the reality that the problem stems from socially normalized misogyny. Both give me pause. I don't think assuming "the mentally ill" must be at cause here unless we have specific reason to believe that. Average, otherwise healthy people can be spiteful and mean, particularly when empowered through anonymity. I think assuming otherwise gives us a less clear image of the problem we're looking at.
Honestly in this case it's both. People with certain types of mental illnesses (and as someone with a type of mental illness, I clearly am not referring to everyone) are the ones who take things like this that far and that openly. Normal people can be cruel vicious assholes, but even on the internet they will have limits and boundaries. The thing is that these people are influenced by society. Their extremism is very much influenced by societal values and undercurrents
 
Maybe I'm too old, but when did being a "Knight" or "Warrior" become an insult
How old are you? ;)

White-Knight is a put-down term I've been familiar with for ages (I'm 36), but Social Justice Warrior is something new that I only (personally) started hearing over the last year or so.
 
People with mental issues aren't just born into the world slinging death threats at people who make youtube videos. I think it's a bit insulting how you're trying to pin all of this on them, as well as insulting to the plenty of people with mental issues who don't act in this manner.

agreed. Its your average person who posts these kinds of threats. I approach this subject as a cynic, so its not hard for me to believe that it could have easily been ur average gaf poster who made those threats, on the same token, i won't be angry if anyone suspects me of making those anonymous threats.
 
Ok, I have always felt the woman was a hack and avoided any discussion of her after her shitty Bayonetta video a few years back, but fucking hell. Nobody deserves this kind of abuse.

Some of these "men" need to be netured.
 
I think sitting back in an armchair and diagnosing strangers based on one or two sentences for the sole purpose to of attempting to fulfill a harmful stereotype of mental illness helps no one.

And so you instead sit in an armchair and diagnose what's wrong with society without taking into considerations the acts of individuals or how they play a role in the events that lead to the situation in OP?

I'm not trying to justify anything, and you implying I am because you refuse to look at the micro as well as the macro doesn't benefit anyone.
 
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Wait, so anonymous Twitter trolls are now representative of the entirety of the tech community? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate what people are doing to miss Sarkeesian, but is that really "proof" that the tech community as a whole hates / despises women? Am I alone in having doubts that anyone (regardless of gender) will be harassed by internet trolls should you open your mouth about anything?


  • I know people that openly speak about being Atheist and receive death threats for doing so from Christians, does that mean the entirety of Christianity hates Atheists?
  • I've witnessed people, both men and women, speaking up about being raped, who then receive death threats on the internet, does that mean the entirety of (males on) the internet condones rape?
  • I've seen both men and women speak up about depression on the internet who then receive endless comments of people telling them to go kill themselves, does that mean the entirely of society feels that way?
  • That guy who's tweet was just quoted, Thunderfoot, he himself got death threats (both online and offline) and had people try to ruin his scientific career for speaking about atheism and feminism, does that mean the whole internet thinks that is okay?
  • I've seen endless tweets by feminists a while ago, making fun of a news story where a women cut off her boyfriends penis, thinking it was absolutely hilarious and deserved, does that mean all feminists think that is okay?
I'm not trying to demean how terrible it is what miss Sarkeesian is going through, but I just honestly want to ask if this is a case of "open your mouth about anything online and you will get threats" or if this is actually indicative of something more. I would just like to hear what people think so I can clear up my own thoughts about this issue, as I currently don't really know what to think. There is way too much noise going on for me to decide whether or not this is all just people being their usual pleasant selves (when anonymous online) or if this is actually representative of an anti-women attitude in the tech-industry as a whole.

why are you so quick to be 'offended'?
 
Anita's videos and her series have gotten better in quality and tone since her first FF videos, which also means that the people who do hate her(I mean the real vile hate that blinds) and her work are now resorting to threats in order to get their message across.

If this threat doesn't convince her or anyone here her work isn't culturally relevant or something of interest with regards to video games, I can't help you and nobody else can.

Does anyone know if her work is directly influencing developers or big name game directors?
 
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