AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Playing the Alpha and Beta was enough for me to see if I want the game. I really want this game!
Destiny review copies being sent out one day before release, impacting review dates
- Thread starter jbug617
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Yeah I agree with you, I'm just gonna have to do some research on my own because I didn't know some of the things till I came in here like one raid and it has no matchmaking for raids and stuff like that
Viruz
Member
Yes all those who played the Alpha & Beta already.
The thing that I don't understand is why are you relying on polygon, IGN and such to forge your opinion. You played it right? These guys are useless.
Maybe just wait a week or two and check the gamers opinions here on GAF.
katsubento
Member
If there was no beta where millions have tried it, I'd call red flag. But I doubt this is similar. I'm confident without a Polygon or any other review.
And I'm not even into FPS Games much.
And I'm not even into FPS Games much.
XDAOROMANS
Neo Member
Why would they send copies out early if the servers aren't going to be on until Monday and you can't play offline.
It's not our fault the game has that kind of DRM.
Since we know how it plays and the basics of the character progression the only possible red flag I could see come out in reviews is just how much content there is in the basic campaign before you get to grinding end game stuff. Or the servers might be on fire. I suppose that is also possible.
MHWilliams
Member
We're probably in the same boat, but at this point everyone who cares about the game has played it and made their own decision.
My guess is that they are worried about scores being lowered due to "lack of content". Therefore, they are trying to give reviewers too little time to see everything before they publish their reviews.
Doesn't matter to me. Limited Edition still staying preordered but I will say that sounds like some sketchy shit.
Doesn't matter to me. Limited Edition still staying preordered but I will say that sounds like some sketchy shit.
Data mining from the beta revealed the names of 22 story missions, and the beta had 6 of them including one on the Moon that was unlocked for a limited time.
It also included one strike mission, while data mining found six names.
I emphasize that this is from data mining because the final numbers could be different.
Seems more likely they don't want them reviewing high level PVE content before release. There's no way you can level and be raid ready in a day. I'm sure there have been/are servers live for testing.
eighty(one)
Member
Alpha + Beta sold me on the game, as it did many people.
I don't think Activision + Bungie aren't as concerned for scores, so much as reviewers leveling too far ahead of the main populace. They seem to want most on starting on equal footing, hence the alpha + beta progress doesn't transfer.
It has nothing to do with drm.
VaultBoy101
Member
The game is review-proof and they know it. Note that I'm not saying it's a good thing.
The game would work perfectly fine when played solo. There's no real reason to not give that option
Hell don't think we have seen 50% of the explorable zones. There are a few places that were blocked or was guarded by ?? level enemies on earth, and we only saw like 1/3 of the moon (unless I miss that the moon was much more explorable during story). Granted through I still a bit iffy of the 1 area per planet thing.
Except it wouldn't be the same game then.
Reckless Onion
Member
7DollarHagane
Banned
Doesn't want the negative narrative to take hold until after release.
People are going to be upset about the lack of original content in this game.
People are going to be upset about the lack of original content in this game.
I played all of the beta solo. Did some random guys running around really change my experience that drastically?
Right. SimCity all over again.
And the Souls series could have had a pause button while playing offline. Some things are up to the developer and we can't always be 100% sure of their motivations.
I'd like to think Destiny is a little more of an online multiplayer experience than SimCity.
Miles Quaritch
Member
An Alpha/Beta is a vertical slice of gameplay though, the decision not to send review code out early could be a sign that there are other issues with the game. Namely, there's content issues or other issues that would cause such a negative response it might result in lost sales.
It could all be entirely harmless too, but I'll never give any game that doesn't send out review code early the benefit of th doubt.
I'm sure the game would be populated enough with Bungie players as well as the hundreds of reviewer worldwide.
It's a strange decision by Acti/Bungie not to send review code out until the day before release. It's often a bad sign...
Okay guy.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
well after BF4, reviews days before release are fucking useless opinions to me, you have to review this kind of games when shit hits the fan and millions of people are playing it
anyway, too bad i wanted to satiate my thirst for the game with reviews and shit but i can live without them as well
anyway, too bad i wanted to satiate my thirst for the game with reviews and shit but i can live without them as well
Agreed
Viruz
Member
Yeah maybe Bungie will introduce some unbeatable runners, polygon are on it:
If you tried Destiny, I'm sure I'll see you next week playing it.
cripterion
Member
My thoughts too. Most of the solo game is done with 2 other people...
Anyways, I'm not worried about reviewers not getting their hands on the game early but what does worry me is opening the servers on the 9th... Couple that with psn that always takes a crap and I'm not really expecting to be playing this day 1.
Jackbooted
Member
Not a huge fan of companies holding out on copies to prevent early reviews. GAF gives other companies shit for this practice so it applies here as well. Honestly, the amount of content is still the biggest ? out there. I guess I don't consider running a strike 5 times in a row to get a pair of gloves to be "content."
Fushichou187
Member
I feel like given the sheer volume of attention Destiny has received in its run-up to launch, that it was inevitable that Activision would hold onto the review copies until the last possible second. The mind-share of this game is enormous; any news on this game gets rehashed everywhere. Even if only a few reviews came out early that were lukewarm, it'd likely trigger a rush to cancel pre-orders. This way those pre-orders stay locked-in and Activision feels like they can roll with the punches of those crying foul because, as people have rightfully pointed out, the Alpha and Beta were all very public events that have been examined and re-examined to death and the general consensus has been largely positive.
Personally, I've got a good idea of what this game is and isn't. My experience with the Alpha and Beta were more than enough to sell me on the merits of the game so a lackluster showing in the review department from the usual suspects isn't going to sway me one way or the other. Fact is a lot of my enjoyment, outside of exploration, will come from who I play with; I'm not going to be heading into Strike Missions with game journalists, I'm going in guns blazing with DestinyGAF.
Personally, I've got a good idea of what this game is and isn't. My experience with the Alpha and Beta were more than enough to sell me on the merits of the game so a lackluster showing in the review department from the usual suspects isn't going to sway me one way or the other. Fact is a lot of my enjoyment, outside of exploration, will come from who I play with; I'm not going to be heading into Strike Missions with game journalists, I'm going in guns blazing with DestinyGAF.
WrenchNinja
Member
So like Diablo 3 then?
The game would work perfectly fine when played solo. There's no real reason to not give that option
It doesn't. Solo play is never solo in destiny. There is other players in your world, there are server side events happening, there is loot dropped by the server, and so on.
I don't place a lot of value in reviews that were written based on a pre-release copy of a game that is so much about online community.
I also don't place a lot of value in reviews that were written based on a review copy that was received at the time of release. The reviewers will just be racing to check the boxes off as quickly as possible.
Basically, don't trust Destiny reviews.
I also don't place a lot of value in reviews that were written based on a review copy that was received at the time of release. The reviewers will just be racing to check the boxes off as quickly as possible.
Basically, don't trust Destiny reviews.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Maybe not but the game was fundamentally designed with those social aspects in mind. I guess they could have redesigned the entire game for the SP fans but they did not.
Fattony12000
Member
I reckon Bungie/Activision are fairly happy with the quality of their new video game.
Destiny being the most preordered new IP of all time would seem to suggest that people agree with Bungie/Activision. Regardless of what a website would write about it.
Watch Dogs held that title up until 27 May, 2014. That video game went on to ship 8 million copies as of 10 July, 2014.
Destiny being the most preordered new IP of all time would seem to suggest that people agree with Bungie/Activision. Regardless of what a website would write about it.
Watch Dogs held that title up until 27 May, 2014. That video game went on to ship 8 million copies as of 10 July, 2014.
Believe it or not, there are people out there that would rather not take a punt on a $60 game. It is seriously mindblowing I know.
"Vertical slice" doesn't really apply to the way this beta went. It wasn't like we just got two isolated levels and a multiplayer match. We got examples of each of the game's main modes (missions, strikes, free roam) and got to see the connective social hub and progression system. Later on content issues could certainly exist, but we got a really good look at most of the systems in the game.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
"Tune in to the Weekly Update this Friday for an update on how the living, social world of Destiny will be reviewed. Hint: It involves you."
Well, that's interesting. https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/506897824005357568
Well, that's interesting. https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/506897824005357568
Closer, though it's arguably more MP than that due to having hubs like Guild Wars 1, Souls style drop-in/drop-out stuff in explore/story, and a more substantial PvP component.
BronsonLee
Member
....Hrm. Why do I get the feeling they're planning it going up early for digital pre-orders, based off that tweet
Pretty sure you had to matchmake to do the strike mission. Also it's good to have it all online to prevent some modding like what borderlands turns into.
That was an incomplete delve into the beta files. A more complete one found 32 story missions and 23 Strikes.
modding will still happen on 360 and ps3 regardless if its all online.
outunderthestars
Banned
That sounds terrible. Everyone should cancel their preorders. Especially those who preordered the PS4 Ghost edition.
Or just sell me theirs.
That'll show 'em!
Or just sell me theirs.
That'll show 'em!
Vyse The Legend
Member
This means I may have the game long before reviews, since copies should hit street-breaking stores this week. Who knows if the servers will be up, though.