Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

Toxi said:
For those wondering what unique abilities Dark Samus could use, here are two of her boss fights.

Prime 2 Elevator Hard Mode
Prime 3 Hypermode

Congrats!
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Randomly this video reminds me of a cool bit of subtle internal story telling Prime 2 pulled off that goes under appreciated. Dark Samus is weak against the dark beam. You'd never try it if you were new to the series (like I was playing Prime 2 first), especially since the game explicitly states that "dark" opponents hate the light beam and vice versa.

Not only does this fly in the face of the conventional logic, it also serves as a way of silently confirming that the plot line of Dark Samus being Metroid Prime evolving and thriving in the phazon suit it stripped off of Samus in Prime 1 was true.

Do you know how many playthroughs I went through before I figured out the dark beam thing and then realized all that?
 
Codeblue said:
Man, I was really hoping Ike at least got a recovery buff.

Also NoA needs to throw a demo up on Japan's launch day.
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...NoE too!

In all honesty, I don't want a demo anymore. I want to boot it up and be impressed.

me playing the demo does not count despite it being awesome
 
So nothing on Ike besides 'feels unchanged'? BAH!

Edit: Since it's an in-store demo, I assume we won't know new custom movesets since it'd take more time and limit the number of people who can play it
 
IntelliHeath said:
You are way off better if you just ignore people.

People always made the thread worst by shitting on the characters or clone characters, actively wanting characters to get cut, actively wanting replacing the characters, blaming everything on Sakurai due to biases, and many more.

They are living evidences of Kubler-Ross Model.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with anyone grieving over their characters being cut but if you are going to blame on developer or actively want other characters to cut. It's really tiresome. It's possible that we could have got those characters back through Smash Expansion or DLC. Just keep yourself optimistic and hope for the best.
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Guess so. Hopefully this all passes once the games are out.
Then it all starts again at the first sign of DLC...

Just sick of people going crazy and shitting on the game, or shitting on people who might have a criticism towards the game, or just shitting on each other in general.
 
Toxi said:
For those wondering what unique abilities Dark Samus could use, here are two of her boss fights.
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Nobody is wondering that.

It's just getting pretty tiring of seeing the whole "Dark Pit made it in? BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS NON-CLONE POTENTIAL CHARACTER THAT I REALLY LIKE! MAN SAKURAI REALLY FUCKED UP!"

If Dark Pit was not in, we'd have 47 characters instead of 48. It's not a matter of substitution. It's a matter of "Well, this character particular skeleton, animation (or even voicework in some cases) is really similar to this other character (Pit), so hey, we can use it as a basis for an additional character! The fans will be happy!".

You cannot use Samus as animation basis for Dark Samus. You cannot use Dr. Mario for a skeleton basis of Ridley. And you cannot use Lucina for anything else than modeling in a shoe magazine. If Dark Pit, Lucina and Dr. Mario were not in, maybe you'd have half of a character done in advance for DLC. Maybe you'd have a couple more alternates costumes. That's it. Not a whole brand new character for each.

I don't mean to go off on you Toxi so please don't feel targeted, it just happened that your post brought back some arguments in mind that I've seen in recent pages and threads, and I just wanted to make it clear. No character slot bullshit. No Sakurai bias. Only time and manpower constraints in a game that have to come out Holiday 2014.
 
Jon said:
So now that Zipso is done for the day, and presuming his impressions are accurate are you:

A) Really Hyped: (largely as a result of game mechanic improvements/detail of characters)
B) More Hyped: (mechanics may not be what you want, but character detail sounds great)
C) Same Hype Level (jury is still out until you get your own hands on the game)
D) Less Hyped (mechanics are offputting/absence of character details are disappointing)
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BLOOMING A ALL THE WAY!

I am too hyped about Mega man and Pacman, but also about Little Mac, Greninja, Rosalina, Mario and his new speed... Can barely think about anything other than this damned game. I dream about it dammit.

Sakurai will use this some day to rule the world. And put tripping into real life as his master evil plan.
 
Just saw an interesting tidbit with the guy who's doing an AMA on reddit about what he played of the demo, it's about Robin's aerial smashes:

aerial smashes have the same speed and animation as regular aerials but wth more power, knockback and a larger (and longer) hitbox
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So, basically, the aerials are the same animation but they have the power of Smash attacks and you have to execute them like you do Smash attacks. Interesting.
 
From that wall of text.
TOON LINK:
-There is no island toon link costume.
- toon link has the four swords colors + old style link color, the black with red eyes.
- Toon Link: Pajamas
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So the reports state that the pajamas aren't in the game, they are in the game, and that we don't know about the two other costumes?
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Yeah, never understood the "that character should be cut" line of thinking. Theoretically, we'd want all characters back if possible, I'd think.

Toxi said:
Congrats!
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Thanks! ^_^

...you also reminded me I should go through the prime series someday... Only ever got to the end of Prime 1.

I hath shamed myself as a Metroid fan.
 
It still hasn't been confirmed yet that Ike fights for his friends. You would think that would be a priority.

Also someone made a Levin Sword.

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Mechanically, this game is shaping up amazingly. Sad to hear about wolf and and wish ridley were in. Otherwise its near perfect. All i need now is something similar to mario kart tv. Call it smash tv, so we can upload highlights of matches to youtube and stuff
 
Revven said:
Just saw an interesting tidbit with the guy who's doing an AMA on reddit about what he played of the demo, it's about Robin's aerial smashes:



Source

So, basically, the aerials are the same animation but they have the power of Smash attacks and you have to execute them like you do Smash attacks. Interesting.
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That's certainly intriguing.
 
roknin said:
Yeah, never understood the "that character should be cut" line of thinking. Theoretically, we'd want all characters back if possible, I'd think.
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Theoretically, yeah.
But I'm one of those people that would rather we never see Pichu, Doctor Mario, or Young Link again.
 
The Captain said:
From that wall of text.

So the reports state that the pajamas aren't in the game, they are in the game, and that we don't know about the two other costumes?
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It's kind of a mixed message, Zipzo only talked about 6 costumes so he might've not checked them all?
 
Hey guys! Been a long time lurker on gaf, looking forward to gettin hyped for the rest of this thread and the upcoming OT.


SuperSah said:
Apparently not.

Zipzo stated that some characters even went to "bubble status" on Battlefield often.
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Can someone explain what this means exactly?
 
Jon said:
So now that Zipso is done for the day, and presuming his impressions are accurate are you:

A) Really Hyped: (largely as a result of game mechanic improvements/detail of characters)
B) More Hyped: (mechanics may not be what you want, but character detail sounds great)
C) Same Hype Level (jury is still out until you get your own hands on the game)
D) Less Hyped (mechanics are offputting/absence of character details are disappointing)
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C

I don't give two fucks about the game mechanics.
Is the game fun? Sold.
Does it play like Brawl? Sold.
Does it play like Melee? Sold.
Does it play like a mix? Sold.
 
OminousShadow said:
That feeling when you first wake up and have so much awesome stuff to catch up on

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Okay this has been bugging me for months... What is that gif from lmao

The Captain said:
Theoretically, yeah.
But I'm one of those people that would rather we never see Pichu, Doctor Mario, or Young Link again.
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So what you're saying is you're evil? :-p

In all seriousness, if they could make them reasonably different (and make Pichu not worthless by... Hurting itself. Who thought that was a good idea?) then why not?

Maybe it's just me, I've never been opposed to clones. Then again, I am coming from Tekken, that series is practically the homeland of clone characters.
 
Tooi said:
Can someone explain what this means exactly?
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It means they go into that magnifying glass (the point that is really close to the blastzones, when you're off-screen but not KO'd yet) more often because of how large the blastzones are.
 
Where is a fullres picture from the Mii video thing with all the Nintendo characters standing on a cliff? It would be a badass wallpaper.
 
Guesong said:
Nobody is wondering that.

It's just getting pretty tiring of seeing the whole "Dark Pit made it in? BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS NON-CLONE POTENTIAL CHARACTER THAT I REALLY LIKE! MAN SAKURAI REALLY FUCKED UP!"

If Dark Pit was not in, we'd have 47 characters instead of 48. It's not a matter of substitution. It's a matter of "Well, this character particular skeleton, animation (or even voicework in some cases) is really similar to this other character (Pit), so hey, we can use it as a basis for an additional character! The fans will be happy!".

You cannot use Samus as animation basis for Dark Samus. You cannot use Dr. Mario for a skeleton basis of Ridley. And you cannot use Lucina for anything else than modeling in a shoe magazine. If Dark Pit, Lucina and Dr. Mario were not in, maybe you'd have half of a character done in advance for DLC. Maybe you'd have a couple more alternates costumes. That's it. Not a whole brand new character for each.

I don't mean to go off on you Toxi so please don't feel targeted, it just happened that your post brought back some arguments in mind that I've seen in recent pages and threads, and I just wanted to make it clear. No character slot bullshit. No Sakurai bias. Only time and manpower constraints in a game that have to come out Holiday 2014.
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Okay, I was just responding to another post about Dark Samus.

Time for a dance party!

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Super excited for Robin. I've actually been expecting him ever since I started playing Awakening, and his playstyle/moveset is everything I imagined it would be. Gonna be maining him for sure.

Fierce Deity Link is pretty cool, too. Maybe that'll get me to start using him again.
 
SuperSah said:
Just saw CPP disconfirmed...

WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO?!

That's ridiculous and unfair on all levels. Now people will have hardware advantages too?

Oh fuck off Nintendo, you cheeky shits. You should have told us this day one so people don't go out and buy a fucking obselete piece of shit to play their damn games.

Truly bummed out by this. Sure, + and A is more satisfying and more "tactical" but that's a massive middle finger to those with a CPP. Is this a Sakurai doing or a Nintendo doing? BS.
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Dude calm down.

I played over 150 hours of Brawl with only a WiiMote. Its going to be okay. You can learn the WiiMote too then use it for the 3DS version.
WAT

Seriously, we can be super effective with any control scheme. We'll show those silly CStickers what we are really made of!
 
Tooi said:
Hey guys! Been a long time lurker on gaf, looking forward to gettin hyped for the rest of this thread and the upcoming OT.




Can someone explain what this means exactly?
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Welcome! You're like literally joining in the discussions at the right time!

also "bubble status" is when your character is off screen that it shows a little "bubble" where they are out of the blast zone. Plus they get 1% damage per second.

OmegaSmash said:
I JUST WOKE UP AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT MATCH BONUSES ARE BACK?!
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I know right!?!?!?!?!? I thought they wouldn't ever bring it back! :D
 
Now that it's all but confirmed, I can't help but feel the Alph situation is a little odd. He seems like a prime candidate for alt-turned-clone. I wonder why they didn't do it with him?
 
roknin said:
So what you're saying is you're evil? :-p

In all seriousness, if they could make them reasonably different (and make Pichu not worthless by... Hurting itself. Who thought that was a good idea?) then why not?

Maybe it's just me, I've never been opposed to clones. Then again, I am coming from Tekken, that series is practically the homeland of clone characters.
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It's a mixture of things for me. For one, I want clones to at the very least be visually distinct from the original characters. That's why characters like Doctor Mario, Pichu, and Young Link are a problem. Toon Link fills up Young Link's role and is much better at it, as he represents a sub-branch of the Zelda series with a completely different art style.
That also somewhat factors into why I dislike Wolf (another space canine), but I'm sure if Falco had a very different moveset from Fox, I wouldn't mind Wolf being in so much. As someone who plays with Random characters, it always bothers me to get one of the Star Fox trio since the moves are so similar.
I would not mind at all seeing Lucas and Roy come back (despite the latter being obsolete with Lucina in).

MiguelMexMIstery said:
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My main, and at least he looks quite different compared to his source character.
 
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