The wording implies that 3GB won't get you parity with the consoles in this game. There is "more capable" and there is having enough VRAM.
Evil Within System & Hard Disk Requirements (PC/Consoles), strongly suggests 4GB VRAM
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The wording implies that 3GB won't get you parity with the consoles in this game. There is "more capable" and there is having enough VRAM.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Whelp .. its IDTech 5 ..
meaning as shit as the PS3 version might look, its still gonna be 60 FPS
meaning as shit as the PS3 version might look, its still gonna be 60 FPS
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Whelp .. its IDTech 5 ..
meaning as shit as the PS3 version might look, its still gonna be 60 FPS
It's 30 FPS.
DarkChronic
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Well, my 970 is gonna get a good run for it's money here. Wonder how the i5 2500k will hold up.
Whelp .. its IDTech 5 ..
meaning as shit as the PS3 version might look, its still gonna be 60 FPS
Hehe
And what does "the team said you can give it a go, but they don't recommend it" means? Does it mean "it's all good guys, go for it, it'll look great and run very well, just no ultra settings"?
I'm perfectly fine with Shadow of Mordor recommending 6GB of VRAM for Ultra Textures, even though I only have 2, and I don't plan on canceling that pre-order and getting it on a console, so I definitely know the difference between "recommended" and "required".
thehillissilent
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I wonder why they are not revealing the graphics options menu for this game. I guess we won't find out any details until the game is released and people brave enough to download it and see if it runs on non-recommended rigs. I already pre-ordered it and I meet the recommended requirements with the exception of having an I5 4690K, but I'm not worried about that.
Whelp .. its IDTech 5 ..
meaning as shit as the PS3 version might look, its still gonna be 60 FPS
They modified the engine with all kinds of lighting effects and shit, so it will run at 30fps on all consoles. Need a PC for that silky smooth.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'll be playing the PS3 version anyway, so probably not the best person to complain about frame rates
Crimsonclaw111
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I'm running i5 3570k and 770 4GB... I'll post impressions, check for VRAM usage, etc.
Novum_Veritas
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I also have a graphics card with 4 GB VRAM, I'll also post impressions how it runs.
Running also on an i5 4670 here, with 16 GB's of RAM.
Running also on an i5 4670 here, with 16 GB's of RAM.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I'm the same except I got a 760 4GB.
Crimsonclaw111
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InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
We'll see how it goes. I'm all in on launch day
Yeah I already hopped on that GMG deal so time to just wait it out for D-day.
Dictator93
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You mean they modified it to actually have lighting as expected of a modern engine?
idTech5 has almost 0 real time lighting and shadowing. All the shadows are precalculated fixed projections for the most part or baked into the megatexture.
THem adding features from modern engine design should not somehow make this game 30fps on consoles. Otherwise it is justifiable to say that metro Redux should be 30 fps on consoles because it uses "all kinds of lighting effects." We need to know more and see more colose ups oabout this game is doing before we should say that its performance is justified on any or all platforms.
AsfaeksBR
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Dictator93
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Of course it will, but that in now way says anything about its performance profile. Games have had real time lighting and shadoiwing for years and generic statements about that fact, say nothing as to a games performance. Esepcially when it is so ubiquitous/ not necessarily even performance intensive (doom3/riddick/shitt shrek game on OG xbox have fully realtime lighting and shadowing).
CyanideFuse
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The Shadows of Mordor ultra textures thread is awash with people panicking that their cards are not up to it with tongue-in-cheek (I think) comments about 970/980 cards having a good run but this game seems a touch more concerning if they are saying you really should have 4GB VRAM.
That definitely rules me out and a fair number of people. I am more than okay with turning settings down but I want a game to be playable.
I am still staying strong and not upgrading my card yet.
That definitely rules me out and a fair number of people. I am more than okay with turning settings down but I want a game to be playable.
I am still staying strong and not upgrading my card yet.
plagiarize
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As far as I remember, idTech5 always had real time lighting support. If you remember the earliest demos of it, before RAGE was announced for consoles, it was definitely showing dynamic shadows, etc.
What I remember is that they cut the lighting from RAGE because they were prioritizing 60 fps on the consoles, and didn't want to have to have two completely different lighting models to test for people on PC that could handle it.
I remember them saying Doom 4 would likely be 30 fps on consoles (way back when there was the belief it might launch on PS3 and Xbox 360 in 2012) but that it would feature more dynamic lighting as a result.
All as far as I remember and my memory is fallible, but that's my understanding. idTech5 can do dynamic lighting, just not at 60 fps on 360 and PS3 and iD didn't want to have to light everything twice so cut the feature from the PC version too.
Yeah, basically.
The only real confirmed reason we have for TEW being 30fps on consoles is "because it's a horror game", in a tweet from a dev. So the rest is left up to us for speculation.
-MD-
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Crimsonclaw111
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OT but yes that was truly weird. I finished the main game on the desktop then i wanted to play revelations on the laptop only to find out that it was unplayable @ 1024 * 768.
Dictator93
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Yeah the first demo video of idTech 5 (which still looks pretty good btw in some areas) had all real time lighting and shadowing. The engine supports it (it is horribly broken in the Rage mod SDK, just so you know).
Just pointing out the fact that a game having real time direct lighting/shadowing on next gen consoles (not 360/ps3) does not say much about whether one should expect 30 or 60. We are beyond that tech hurdle
. For exmaple though, an early video of this game had volumetric lighting (with indirect off screen shafts and whatnot), something like that being in the game could perhaps justify its fps.plagiarize
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Yeah the first demo video of idTech 5 (which still looks pretty good btw in some areas) had all real time lighting and shadowing. The engine supports it (it is horribly broken in the Rage mod SDK, just so you know).
Just pointing out the fact that a game having real time direct lighting/shadowing on next gen consoles (not 360/ps3) does not say much about whether one should expect 30 or 60. We are beyond that tech hurdle
Well, I'm basing it off of quotes about how Doom 4 was expected to run on 360 and PS3 with more dynamic lighting. Of course, that only explains the framerates on the last gen console versions. I'm optimistic my PC will comfortably sail past 60 fps, but who can say at this point.
How About No
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Hmm how much does my old HD5770 have.,,
512MB...welp.
512MB...welp.
Dictator93
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such a shame idTech5 cannot use SLI at all really.
A while back some tech review, I forget which one, posted in their review how they lifted the 60 fps limit in Wolfenstein. ANyone have any idea how they did that?
Barack Lesnar
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I finally put my 1gb 5770 out to pasture like six months ago. Greatest card I've ever had. It's time to let her go, mate. Just be gentle.
MatrixMan.EXE
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This isn't even the start of it. Watch when cross gen game development is ditched altogether. There's going to be a lot of slack jaws all over these types of threads.
I can't wait until we get out of these 60hz dark ages and people start caring about unlocking 60fps games, not just the 30fps locked ones.
But seriously that's relevant to my interests. Wolfenstein is top of my steam wishlist for the next sale, after I manage to find a 970.
I played it on Gamescom and the textures look way better in The Evil Within then they did in Wolfenstein: TNO. Which was already quite hungry for VRAM - if you upped the resolution on that one to 4K it ate about 5-6 Gigs of Vram instantly.
Lighting an Shadows are also improved, so I guess this should come as no surprise - keeping in mind this is id-tech5.
Yeah, just add "cvaradd com_synctotime -1" in the console. But it fucks up the pacing of the game. Whenever you go over 60 fps everything goes turbo-mode.
No CPU (even oc'd) is able to handle a whole lot more than 60 fps in Wolfenstein. As in quite a few other games as well - so we'd need much more powerful CPUs as well as powerful GPUs.
Lighting an Shadows are also improved, so I guess this should come as no surprise - keeping in mind this is id-tech5.
Yeah, just add "cvaradd com_synctotime -1" in the console. But it fucks up the pacing of the game. Whenever you go over 60 fps everything goes turbo-mode.
No CPU (even oc'd) is able to handle a whole lot more than 60 fps in Wolfenstein. As in quite a few other games as well - so we'd need much more powerful CPUs as well as powerful GPUs.
Dictator93
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I find it hard to believe that devs still code their engines at lock frame stepping like this. What on earth are they thinking?!
SlasherJPC
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Just ordered a GTX 970 so I should be good to go.
meltingparappa
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Main reason I wanted to go pc was for removing the black bars and 60fps.
I know it's about devs having the time to optimize last minute, but the latter makes it feel like a brand new console isn't up to snuff.
I know it's about devs having the time to optimize last minute, but the latter makes it feel like a brand new console isn't up to snuff.
Like one several weeks later. Not sure how much it helped, though.
Bl@de
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We'll see how it goes. I'm all in on launch day
I will check on afterburner too. Have a 770 2gb. Wouldn't be surprised if it runs just normal... Neogaf really loves to panic. I can also make screenshots on different texture resolutions for comparison.
This panic was self created by them not giving minimum requirements and giving non answers to questions that could of calmed this panic.
It be nice if someone got a pc review version and tested it on non 4GB vram to see how it works before the release. I was going to preorder it or buy it on release date but now I will wait to see how it runs on below requirement computers.
If it's anything like Wolfenstein some settings won't appear unless you have the right amount of video memory.
I am still up in the air on this.
Please bethesda release a demo or something that lets people who have 2gb cards like a 770 know how this will play. I have to decide whether to cancel my preorder, if i even can.
The way you have worded all your information has not been helpful and has left too much doubt.
Please bethesda release a demo or something that lets people who have 2gb cards like a 770 know how this will play. I have to decide whether to cancel my preorder, if i even can.
The way you have worded all your information has not been helpful and has left too much doubt.
UnrealEck
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I'd say that means the game will run at less than 4GB of VRAM.
ViewtifulJC
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I wouldn't recommend it tho
For a small group of enthusiasts that were used to the only question about requirements being how much they would be able to downsample last-gen console games on their 2 year old GPU, and still don't want to buy a new one, pretty much.
It is a bit ridiculous along with expensive to have a card like a 770 get outdated so fast. Have a bad taste in my mouth from all this.