But that's how they get ya!
Evil Within System & Hard Disk Requirements (PC/Consoles), strongly suggests 4GB VRAM
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But that's how they get ya!
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'm assuming most people here want it day one. If they have preorders, it's best to cancel now if you're feeling apprehensive and given Bethesda/Tango's comments, it isn't unwarranted.
And the problem with waiting for release date impressions is that most people get preorders for cheaper, see GMG's $45 preorder price.
In a matter of minutes come release date I won't be able to ask for a refund anymore.
SneakyStephan
Banned
overreactions, desperation? What a ridiculous way to describe cancelling a preorder
a pre order signifies blind faith in a product (which is btw a naive overreaction to hype and marketing), how is deciding to wait until after it is released before you buy a game an overreaction or desperation...
Guess what doing the bolded means? RIGHT, cancelling your pre order
Pre order culture... I swear to god, people have gone insane
s_mirage
Member
You have to admit, it's pretty worrying when they're heavily advising the 4GB and refusing to give the minimum specs.
Well, since 980 offers only marginal improvements over 780 Ti as far as gaming performance goes, especially at resolutions higher than 1080p I think it's reasonable to say both cards are "hot shit" at this point. As I said, it's utterly stupid to mark 780 Ti's 3 GBs of VRAM as inadequate based on an unoptimized mess (Watch_Dogs) and this little miscomunication we have right now.
Also, who would this Tango be?
I wouldn't be surprised if the 4GB of system RAM requirement is confusing some people who don't know what VRAM really is. I mean, people working for Bethesda who don't know the difference between system and video RAM.
In any case, TEW is using the same engine as Wolfenstein: TNO, and that ran fairly well (based on anecdotal evidence gathered all over the internet) on a myriad of systems sporting 2GB and over VRAM. Unless, of course, there's only one setting for texture quality that requires 4GB, which wouldn't make much sense to say the least.
In any case, TEW is using the same engine as Wolfenstein: TNO, and that ran fairly well (based on anecdotal evidence gathered all over the internet) on a myriad of systems sporting 2GB and over VRAM. Unless, of course, there's only one setting for texture quality that requires 4GB, which wouldn't make much sense to say the least.
Tango Gameworks are the devs for the game.
It would be amusing if this was all a Japanese translation issue or something.....but that would be too stupid.
Not only it's the official PR stance, but gstaff actually went back to the team to confirm and said this:
There's really no reason to still think it'll be fine. It might end up being the case, but I'm not taking chances.
It's not like I'm boycotting the game or hoping it fails like that other guy, I'm just deciding against pre-ordering it on PC.
Ah, I see, thought it was some user here. Anyways, it's getting late, so think I'll get some sleep, and probably wake up to a nice PR apology in the morning!
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I know a lot of people are down on the PC news (and I can see why, don't worry) but I'll still be getting it at launch and posting impressions of all the settings and console tweaks and shit.
I hope I see some of you in the performance thread or Steam or the OT. Good luck to everyone!
I hope I see some of you in the performance thread or Steam or the OT. Good luck to everyone!
Ah, I see, thought it was some user here. Anyways, it's getting late, so think I'll get some sleep, and probably wake up to a nice PR apology in the morning!
Yeah, I'll keep my Steam credit for a few days, just to see if anything changes. If so, I can just pre-order it again. It's not like I want to buy anything that I'd play right now, anyway.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Once this comes out, I want some hardware site to test this against an entry level card like a GTX 650 with 4 gigs of ram and a high end card with 2 or 3 gigs of ram.
Actually, they gained a PS4 sale from him since he said he'd buy the PC version once he has a card with 4GB of RAM.
All this statement from them has done is make me think they're code isn't optimized for shit, actually.
Im afraid there wont even be scalability settings. One of the dev posts says the game doesnt scale back to the last gen versions as it was meant to be a next-gen game.
nextgeneration
Member
With them recommending 4 gigs, hopefully, the pc version will look leagues better than the console counterparts. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Yeah, I'm an idiot.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
You're kidding me, right. NOTHING?
There's no way Bethesda will botch a PC release this bad in 2014.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Exactly, "Lost In Translation" and all of that. I've spent enough time working in Japan to know it definitely happens. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
It can look amazing when it wants to:
I wonder if the textures will look better than that on the PC version?
-MD-
Member
Definitely not gonna cancel my preorder. I'll be using a 660ti 2GB, 3570k i5 and 8GB RAM, the goal will be 1080p/60fps for me and will post about performance when the game releases.
Would be nice to have someone from Bethesda make a statement on cards using less than 4GB VRAM though as that's like ~95% of the market. Wolfenstein ran really great for me so hopefully it'll be as simple as lowering a setting or two.
Would be nice to have someone from Bethesda make a statement on cards using less than 4GB VRAM though as that's like ~95% of the market. Wolfenstein ran really great for me so hopefully it'll be as simple as lowering a setting or two.
I think im gonna keep my 45$ preorder for now as well. I mean a 770 2gb oc'd has gotta be worth something.
But fuck if impressions arent revealed before release and i load this up at 5 fps im gonna burn the place down.
And they did make a statement and said they dont think you should do it, lol. I would like a more official PR release though
Or even better how about a damn PC demo or benchmark tool.
I have never seen a game that asks for 4GB Ram + 4GB Vram. How can you handle all the data on 4GB Vram with just 4GB Ram?
Also, the gstaff on bethesda's blog said that "were not posting minimum requirements, because were looking to share requirements that show the game the way it was meant to be played.". That's pretty dumb, tbh. Just show the min. requirements (even if the game looks like the PS360 version) so that more people are inclined to buy it.
Also, the gstaff on bethesda's blog said that "were not posting minimum requirements, because were looking to share requirements that show the game the way it was meant to be played.". That's pretty dumb, tbh. Just show the min. requirements (even if the game looks like the PS360 version) so that more people are inclined to buy it.
s_mirage
Member
Just noticed this post. It would make sense wouldn't it? Remove the dynamic texture streaming and just make sure the textures fit within the console ram? It would explain the 4+4 memory requirements and did someone mention something about long load times?
Refreshment.01
Member
It seemed to me some of the fellows were suggesting they were cancelling the PC pre order to pre order one of the console versions. No need to carry on with more over reactions.
Also there's always the possibility you could get an article from a website that talks about the performance of the game. Digital Foundry maybe?
It could be, but recommended specs have become really weird the last few years.
i do undertsand the worries as some people made good points in some of the replies to my previous post. But then again these specs are really vague. 4 GB of Vram? Fine but at what resolution? What else will the PC version will be doing effects and texture wise when they have the game runing at 1080p in a PS4 and that system has 5 GB usable for the entire game?
lol, like there's any chance in hell I would pass up playing the best version of a Mikami game at 1440p just because it's capped at 30fps.
I'd be pretty happy with this, actually.
joeygreco1985
Member
I know better than to ever purchase an idtech5 game on PC again. I'll grab this on consoles
Tidus_Great
Banned
dead rising 3
AsfaeksBR
Member
I think the demo would come in handy now more than ever,
They gotta show how the game runs on normal PC's (if it's like Wolfenstein) just to undo the image of "bad optimization" they have right now.
If they don't release it, it's practically confirmed it will be a mess on PC!
-MD-
Member
I wouldn't go that far, like 1% of games these days get a demo.
What about that one german let's play guy that played a preview build of the game on pc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2fIQexipaE (Supposedly?) Can someone ask him what his specs were and how his performance was?
Cave Johnson
Member
The only thing I need to know is this: If I play Rage at 1080p/60fps with my set-up, does this = Wolfenstein = TEW?
yep. that alone will kill my bandwidth cap.
Rage and Wolfenstein: The New Order were also 50 GB games. good thing that id-tech 5 is already dead.
Phanatic8390
Member
I really hope we get some further clarification on this. I have a hard time believing they'd actually release a game that's unplayable without 4GB of VRAM considering the current market.
I'm definitely going to be reevaluating my pre-order.
I'm definitely going to be reevaluating my pre-order.
