New Driveclub gameplay

I've been readijng B3D's comments on the DC B-Roll footage, and none of them seem to think that it's supersampled. One even mentioned that he isn't seeing any signs of that in that footage.
 
DrDamn said:
How are people telling the difference between rubber banding and AI just taking a corner better, or simply using drafting against you? When I think back to Gran Turismo and the big variety in times, exit speeds etc in a simple one corner licence test it's more a wonder why we don't see more of it. Maybe it's more a question of what's wrong with the AI in other games rather than crying foul in a game where the dev has explicitly stated it doesn't exist?
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Yeah but i was referring to a hands on in Jeuxvideo.com (not the best site but whatever, here is the video it's in french). Where the guy states clearly that it has stopped mid race for a long time and that he has reached the first AI opponent in 30 seconds after that. And so he says that the AI is rubber banding.

I believe the dev, but it is confusing for people who do not follow the game that well.
 
Sothis Krieg said:
Yeah but i was referring to a hands on in Jeuxvideo.com (not the best site but whatever, here is the video it's in french). Where the guy states clearly that it has stopped mid race for a long time and that he has reached the first AI opponent in 30 seconds after that. And so he says that the AI is rubber banding.

I believe the dev, but it is confusing for people who do not follow the game that well.
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Maybe the AI driver was in his club and wanted to wait until he caught up so he didn't feel like a shit driver.
 
Sothis Krieg said:
Where the guy states clearly that it has stopped mid race for a long time and that he has reached the first AI opponent in 30 seconds after that. And so he says that the AI is rubber banding.

I believe the dev, but it is confusing for people who do not follow the game that well.
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Ok but that's not quite rubber banding as such in that it's not boosting the players speed and not boosting AI. That's slowing down the AI in a single player race which is artificial but doesn't have the detrimental impact that boosting has.

Rushy said:
> There is no rubber banding - Cars can never go faster than there performance stats allow (AI or human)
> There are no dynamic assists that affect performance based upon position - We never slow down or speed up players online to keep them grouped together.
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Those points haven't been broken by that example.
 
Cthulhu_Steev said:
#4theplayers (who can't keep up)
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I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
 
Cthulhu_Steev said:
#4theplayers (who can't keep up)
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#4theplayers (who've nipped to the loo).

The assists thing to try and keep the pack together, or lack of, was referring to comments after multiplayer E3 videos I think, so AI slowing down in a single player tour event if you stop on track doesn't preclude anything I think.

I actually think a hint of rubber banding is fine. Just so long as cars can't go faster than would be possible, which has been confirmed they can't. It means you can't just slap it on Easy and win a race by 5 minutes. Instead you're kept on your toes, meaning more enjoyment.

The frustration only comes when the AI turns on the jets and blazes past at warp speed when they clearly couldn't have done so. I've not seen any evidence of that, I've seen overtakes over the line and people yell 'RUBBERBANDING!' but only where the human had a bad last corner, hit something or was being drafted.
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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Terrific story bro! Especially the FH2 bits.
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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Are you worried or are you concerned?
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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If under any circumstances, you are considering of turning this thread into a FH2 vs DC comparison thread.

I advise you to go to page 21 of this topic and read the posts by the users with red usernames and take great consideration on what they say, upon reaching that junction. Carefully decide what your next post (if you decide to make one) in this topic is going to be.

Edit: If for any reason It looks like I'm stepping on your toes Kagari, I apologize and you can delete this post / remove it if you wish.
 
roxa said:
I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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You sure do have a lot of concerns (that shockingly involve Forza), but the 'spongy triggers' one is a new one. So congratulations on being unique, I guess.

To actually address it though, the triggers are fine for racing games. They're much improved over the DS3's triggers.
 
roxa said:
There are some things that im worried about:

- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.
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At this particular aspect, I agree in some extent. The collision is not looking very good imo.

But overall I think the game seems pretty good! Graphically amazing, and it seems to handle well! Need to play to reach a concrete conclusion though.
 
thenexus6 said:
Anyone else playing on downloading the free version to check it out first? The "full game" upgrade is £35 on PSN which is cheaper than I expected.. Does anyone know the download size of the free version? The full game is around 15GB if I remember correctly.
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This was the plan originally but I saw the trailer in this thread last week and preordered the plus version, game looks too good. I've got the need for speed.
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?
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I haven't really been following FH2, but isn't the fact that you can drive your supercar off-road without immediately losing control fairly arcadey in itself?

I am just assuming race cars (IRL) built for pavement require pavement to drive well, so correct me if I'm wrong about that.
 
hey_it's_that_dog said:
I haven't really been following FH2, but isn't the fact that you can drive your supercar off-road without immediately losing control fairly arcadey in itself?

I am just assuming race cars (IRL) built for pavement require pavement to drive well, so correct me if I'm wrong about that.
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Didn't you know super cars were built to be raced outside of corridors?

The games are just so different that I don't even understand how anyone in their right mind can try to compare them. They are doing two very different things entirely.
 
Can someone tell me what you get with the PS+ version only again? Without upgrading to full, I mean?
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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Game that largely involves racing super cars off road, through grass, mud, bushes and all the rest, less arcadey than a track based racer. Ok.

I'd say tyre squeals are very accurate sounding in DriveClub, and variable, as are the vehicle sounds themselves. Far as I know they used more advanced audio recording technology than any of the other racing devs, to the extent that manufacturers are using their audio in adverts etc. There's no added roars, screams or anything else thrown in either afaik, so what you're hearing is truer than other racers.

And spongey triggers? DS4's triggers are a good degree more springy than the DS3's, so that isn't an issue at all.
 
nib95 said:
Game that largely involves racing super cars off road, through grass, mud, bushes and all the rest, less arcadey than a track based racer. Ok.

I'd say tyre squeals are very accurate sounding in DriveClub, and variable, as are the vehicle sounds themselves. Far as I know they used more advanced audio recording technology than any of the other racing devs, to the extent that manufacturers are using their audio in adverts etc. There's no added roars, screams or anything else thrown in either afaik, so what you're hearing is truer than other racers.

And spongey triggers? DS4's triggers are a good degree more springy than the DS3's, so that isn't an issue at all.
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I think he was talking about the way the cars handle/physics.
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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I'm concerned with your post history. You seem to lie whenever you think it may impress the fanboys. You bought a Xb1 for FH2!?

roxa said:
I will get a xbone for this game and the upcomming exclusives.
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roxa said:
OK THATS IT. Im heading to the store. You guys just broke me.
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But wait you already said you had a XB1 months earlier!

roxa said:
Exactly the same situation here.

Got also a Wii U for exclusives but i will get rid of it soon because it's simply an overkill for me to own 3 consoles. I can't find the time to fully use them all.
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But your concern for DC is touching and I'm sure genuine.
 
roxa said:
I love the graphics and presentation of this game no doubt.

There are some things that im worried about:

- Comparing it to horizon 2 the handling seems just a little bit too arcadey for my taste.
Im judging only based of videos tho, so I have to try it myself to get a proper opinion about it.
For everyone who tried both, whats your opinion about that?


- Collision detection seems like a bad joke.
Cars are bouncing of each other like a superball.

- The tire squeal is absolutelly excessive and highly annoying in that game.
GT had the same shit going on.
Forza gets it right btw, so I hope it will be adjusted for the final version.


Also not directly regards the game:

I've never played any racing game with the DS4 but I'm not sure if I will have fun using that spongy Triggers. Still got hope for a third Party Controller that gets that right.
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The fuck is this?
 
AgentP said:
I'm concerned with your post history. You seem to lie whenever you think it may impress the fanboys. You bought a Xb1 for FH2!?








But wait you already said you had a XB1 months earlier!



But your concern for DC is touching and I'm sure genuine.
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Lol, Detective Gaf strikes again, nice work.
 
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