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[Colonel Nasty]

Because even the AC4 is 1080p on the PS4, and both games (AC4 and Unity) look very similar in quality as well.

Unity is built only for next gen. Surely that's more demanding. Hell watch dogs was also 900p. It was never gonna be 60fps. Maybe PS4 doesn't get quite to 1080p so they optimized it for 900p. I really doubt this is a moneyhat like many are suggesting.

 

[sjay1994]

See I don't understand this attitude... Judging a game by it's PR.

Some of you are literally saying you would buy the game provided the X1 version looked worse, even if the PS4 version looked exactly as it does now. So you're happy with how the game looks but you require the X1 version to look worse.

I have never understood this sort of attitude. It's just like people saying they will boycott all EA games because Sim City required online. Peggle 2 didn't require online, but you're boycotting that because of the EA logo. This sort of "gaming politics" baffles me. You're preventing yourself from playing potentially amazing games just to stick it to some PR mouth.



This is an attitude I can understand, even if I don't agree with it. The game doesn't look good enough therefore I won't buy it.

Right? I feel like I am in the minority on GAF who is concerned about the actual gameplay. Not because a tree is missing, or that there are jaggies,or because the game is 900p, or because of PR.

Its because the actual gameplay looks rough. The stealth doesn't look good, especially since they have been saying they have improved it.

Game looks pretty, and number of NPCs are impressive. I am just worried about the gameplay.

 

[Cizeta-Moroder]

Power gap must be acknowledged.

 

[BruiserBear]

Probably old but I guess this is part of Xbox's marketing deal.

That's quite the conspiracy theory. Very hard to believe. Microsoft has all kinds of Call of Duty marketing deals in place. That didn't stop last years game from being 720p on XB1 and 1080p on PS4.

 

[chopstik]

Think so -- just as long as the version they get isn't 720p.

so just to clarify, with all respect, you'd say MS is ok with their games being 900p and the PS4 versions being 1080p?

even though the large majority of gamers are not ok with this? personally, for the same $60 as the consumer, i want the 1080p version. (consumers = money)

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

See I don't understand this attitude... Judging a game by it's PR.

Some of you are literally saying you would buy the game provided the X1 version looked worse, even if the PS4 version looked exactly as it does now. So you're happy with how the game looks but you require the X1 version to look worse.

I have never understood this sort of attitude. It's just like people saying they will boycott all EA games because Sim City required online. Peggle 2 didn't require online, but you're boycotting that because of the EA logo. This sort of "gaming politics" baffles me. You're preventing yourself from playing potentially amazing games just to stick it to some PR mouth.



This is an attitude I can understand, even if I don't agree with it. The game doesn't look good enough therefore I won't buy it.

 

[Nephtes]

Wow... Look at all this debate they avoided...

Spoiler

Fission Mailed

 

[Chobel]

Don't put any sense in here while the rage is still on...

What sense? Stop spreading this bullshit. CPU bound means you can't increase the framerate.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

!

If the framerate is shit at 900p then 1080p was out of the question.

 

[StevePharma]

Next? lol

Probably not, FC4 is co-marketed with Sony.

AC is co-marketed with MSFT this year.

You can't prove anything but it does feel a little shady. Love how developers always say they want to 'max out' a system when it first releases and after the fact get all hush because 'parity'.

These are the dollars that are doing the talking right now.

 

[Kerub]

I can't believe this hasn't reached the mainstream news yet. It will go down in history as the biggest scandal during this generation of consoles. I'm literally boiling with anger at Ubisoft right now.

 

[MavFan619]

I think Ubisoft is actually right for this one. Resolution/graphical debates between consoles (and in general) have always been childish, and it's sad to see that we always get 40 page threads whenever it's announced that two different versions of a game will have a different resolution.

We're 30 something pages and counting. This is moving faster than when a game these days is 900p on Xbone 1080p on PS4. They sure did something today I dunno about it being "right".

 

[fedexpeon]

Nope. Remember when Phantom Pain was showed at E3 2013 on MS's stage?

Then after the ground zeroes Graphics comparision, MS told Kojima to never come back to their stage again, and thus Sony picked them up.

Wut?!
Any link/post/blog?

That is crazy...Kojima probably laughed it off and said okay brah.

 

[fardeenah]

well i don't care, gonna play it on pc anyway, i just hope its a good pc port that runs well and not like watch dog unoptimised crap.

 

[SuicidalSteve]

So was it 1080p 60fps for ps4 then?

 

[meanspartan]

Maybe Phil Spencer should focus on getting his console some more exclusives instead of pressuring Ubi and others for parity? (I am not buying a console just for Sunset Overdrive, and Halo 5 multiplayer will have shorter legs than MCC if Halo 4 was any indication).

Oh wait....then he'd just pay to deny PS4 people multiplatform games like Tomb Raider. How gross do a company's business practices have to be before you can root for them to fail without being called a fanboy?

It seems to be the same pattern on Gaf lately...everyone slams Microsoft's practices, but if you say you want Xbox One to do poorly so Microsoft learns a lesson, you are a fanboy and will probably catch a ban.

 

[twobear]

That's quite the conspiracy theory. Very hard to believe. Microsoft has all kinds of Call of Duty marketing deals in place. That didn't stop last years game from being 720p on XB1 and 1080p on PS4.

Yeah, but that was before 1080p became a significant issue. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see both at 900p this year.

 

[TheKastorian]

Wow...this is going to turn into a shit-storm for Ubisoft pretty quickly.....

 

[Alchemist]

Pre-order cancelled.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff

Not even joking. This is actually bullshit.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Unity is built only for next gen. Surely that's more demanding. Hell watch dogs was also 900p. It was never gonna be 60fps. Maybe PS4 doesn't get quite to 1080p so they optimized it for 900p. I really doubt this is a moneyhat like many are suggesting.

I think it's more the idea that they want to make sure they have all their console versions the same so that each version shouldn't be sold more than the other, even if that means lowering the quality of one over the other.

 

[SmithnCo]

Hahahaha

Worst justification I've ever heard, gg Ubisoft

 

[Chabbles]

This is so fuckin stupid.

Some times you need to fight stupid with stupid.

 

[Cyborg]

@Ubisoft @assassinscreed @FarCrygame is what I did.

Done, What a bunch of assholes at Ubisoft.

 

[Vizzeh]

Haha, come on. The game is going to sell much more than Black Flag and will probably (GASP) still sell more on the PS4 even with this news and MS' marketing deal.

There's far more current gen systems owners now in comparison to last year.

oh, No doubt it will do well I just meant cheque vs Offset "lost"

 

[Mistah]

Oh common ffs ubi :/

 

[Forceatowulf]

This is some of the greasiest shit I have ever seen.

Eat a dick, Ubisoft. Eat all the dicks.

 

[Leks]

Assassin's Creed Unity |OT| Liberté, égalité, parité

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Won't buy this game. What a bunch of liars.

 

[SlowRevolution]

I can't believe this hasn't reached the mainstream news yet. It will go down in history as the biggest scandal during this generation of consoles. I'm literally boiling with anger at Ubisoft right now.

it isn't world-shattering news so everyone shut up about it right now

 

[IAmRandom31]

I posted that after posting this



and seeing how many new people had posted in the thread without taking most things into consideration.

As he said, the game is CPU limited. I definitely believe him, as Ubisoft's PC games tend to have the same problem. I also believe that they had intended to do more with the game, but had to reel it in once the specs of the new consoles were set. This may have resulted in Ubisoft simply setting a target and deciding that the game looked good enough once they had hit it, but what seems more likely is that they did as much as they could with the time they had (which was likely much less than the developers would have preferred) and that, while they both run at the same resolution, the PS4 version will end up looking better anyway.

Rather than consider the situation rationally, though, the general reaction seems to be "he said parity! Get him!".

Except you are assuming the Ps4 will have the graphical features turned up to 11 because of the bandwidth saved by moving down to 900p.

I have a funny feeling the Ps4 version will look no different either.

 

[Traffcore]

This is just silly! We know PS4 can handle 1080!

 

[Facism]

Ubisoft making it easy to avoid giving them money

 

[Seanspeed]

its not about graphic differences. it's about ubisoft not allowing the PS4 version to reach 1080p because.. well you know why.

I really don't. None of us do.

Possibly the same reason Destiny had parity, but of course people will believe what they want to believe.

 

[Scoot2005]

You can't avoid UPlay.
This is why I hate buying Ubisoft crap.
It is either horrible on the PC from optimization or UPlay, or just play it on console for downgrade.
The only good news is that Ubisoft has the worst franchises from any publisher so I rarely buy their game at full price.

Does that include Rainbow Six? That's a pretty good franchise. Rayman is good but There is no way that series would be limited... But that's if it even comes back.

 

[Mr Moose]

Just got an email from Ubisoft "discover Arno's quest for redemption in the Story Trailer.‏"
They must know I've cancelled my pre-order 10 minutes ago, they're watching us!

 

[Bgamer90]

so just to clarify, with all respect, you'd say MS is ok with their games being 900p and the PS4 versions being 1080p?

Not perfectly okay, but they'll take it over "720p" anyday. Heck, at this point 900p vs. 1080p for AAA action games is what many people expect.

even though the large majority of gamers are not ok with this? personally, for the same $60 as the consumer, i want the 1080p version. (consumers = money)

Large majority of gamers? And you know this how?


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oh, No doubt it will do well I just meant cheque vs Offset "lost"

Oh okay (heh).

 

[UnblessedSoul]

My take on this

 

[TheGameChanger]

So basically what they are saying is that if ps4 owners didn't go around mentioning the better ps4 version on the internet then there would be no parity. This is stupid. I would be mad but I dont give a shit about this game.

 

[m@cross]

So reducing resolution reduces CPU cycles? The fuk? Pretty sure you take two exact same spec PCs, you can give one faster graphics ram and it will support a higher resolution.

 

[loaf of bread]

This is so goddamn insulting. Screw Ubi. Screw MS. Loving that Phil Spencer effect right about now. What a goddamn joke. Phil Spencer is the same goddamn asshole he was during the XB1 reveal.

 

[Dr_LucienSanchez]

Huh, this is some weird shit. Guess I won't be buying the game in November like I previously was going to though.

 

[chopstik]

Nice. So now that the real 'nextgen' multiplats are coming, the PS4 version will be toned down to match the XBox One. Honestly many people argued this would happen and I always thought "oh come on, that's not going to happen". Welp.

this is so sad, but true.

i'm definitely buying the sony exclusives no matter what, and some 3rd party titles. it is really hard not to think that MS is involved in this whole developer parity issue. they are royally screwing with gamers, spcifically, ps4 gamers.

 

[Cole Slaw]

Think so -- just as long as the version they get isn't 720p.

They're going to love Kojima then.

 

[stryke]

If the framerate is shit at 900p then 1080p was out of the question.

They said they were CPU bound.

 

[shem935]

Even if you buy used, that's still money GameStop's gonna make on a game they'll feel incentivized to further restock in one way or another. You'll still be supporting the further marketing of a game. That's all you'll be accomplishing.

Not really. That would just incentivize gamestop to get people to trade in more copies of AC Partiy and not buy more (Plus once I finish the campaign and side missions I will dump it off at gamestop again to nullify any positive effects my sale could have had). I bet I could go back and find dozens of quotes from ubisoft bemoaning used game sales and how they are the death of the industry. I say oh well.

 

[i-Lo]

One thing I will have to admit is the unintentional (or intentional) brilliance of the CPU bound statement. While it is true here, they can use that reason for all their projects hence.

 

[Krustentier7]

You guys are cracking me up. This thread is AMAZING.

 

[fargofallout]

Has anyone ever crunched data to see how many pages a story like this ends up at based on how quickly it reaches a certain number of posts? This is already over 30 pages, and it's only about an hour and a half in.

As for the actual story, it's really stupid of them to admit this. They could have just kept their mouths shut.

Frankly, I'm surprised the games run at all, considering how large they are and that they're released every year. That's not a lot of time to make a game. But that also explains why the games feel so boring to me now, because I feel like I've already played them. So I guess, in the end, this doesn't change anything for me. The game would have to be at 90+ on Metacritic for me to even consider it, because I'm just done with this series.

 

[elmars369]

#PS4NoParity https://twitter.com/assassinscreed

tell 'em it's not ok

I tweeted for what it's worth.

 

[Portugeezer]

See I don't understand this attitude... Judging a game by it's PR.

Some of you are literally saying you would buy the game provided the X1 version looked worse, even if the PS4 version looked exactly as it does now. So you're happy with how the game looks but you require the X1 version to look worse.

I have never understood this sort of attitude. It's just like people saying they will boycott all EA games because Sim City required online. Peggle 2 didn't require online, but you're boycotting that because of the EA logo. This sort of "gaming politics" baffles me. You're preventing yourself from playing potentially amazing games just to stick it to some PR mouth.

XB1 looking "worse"; PS4 not having forced party. Same thing.

People don't like forced parity. I hope now you understand.