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[RustyNails]

Every day my boss used to come into work calling us fags and the n word.
They're just words people...

Do you work for the KKK?

 

[DoktorEvil]

Yeah, no. Let's take this one step further.

If we transfer all the bigots away to an office or area where they only interact with like-minded idiots, then I am concentrating all of the racists in one spot. This will not only make that behavior MORE likely, but it also creates an area where I can't send blacks/women/gays/jews/minorities because the people who work there have a known bias and lack the good judgement to keep that bias to themselves.

You do not "shuffle around" toxic workplace elements you fucking fire them.

There's a big assumption gap in your logic in that blacks/women/gays/jews/minorities are somehow above being racists or bigots. Humans are still human. Humans say inappropriate shit very often and in bad context, the workplace being one of them.

You don't find issue either with the "indirect manager" whose first priority was to run to a superior and tattle? Wouldn't the superior have much bigger shit to worry about?

 

[Keri]

Yes, because HR is just chomping at the bit to create as much useless busy work as possible, when we aren't sleeping in the office or playing facebook games all day.

YES. Finally, someone understands. In all seriousness though, I'm sure it isn't true everywhere, but the HR Department where I work does spend a lot of time developing useless busy work (in the form of surveys and mandatory seminars on non work related topics). It's driven me a little nuts, so my faith is low. (e.g. your mandatory stress-reduction seminar is stressing me out HR, because the hour you want me to spend there, is an hour I have to make-up on the weekend!)

You posted above, that it would be immediate termination where you work, so it sounds like the HR Department at your place is much more no-nonsense.

 

[freeofgreed]

I'm giving her the slight benefit of the doubt based on the info OP has provided us. She doesn't sound like a blatantly malicious person(most likely a bigot), except when it come to her daughter's relationships, which is still a private issue. If she's not front facing clients it shouldn't affect the bottom line. The transferring to another office is a way to both keep those current workers happy and meanwhile avoid directly firing her and risking a lawsuit.

If her job is easily replaceable, such as admin work, then fuck it get rid of her and bring on someone new. If she drives revenue or brings in significant business, the very last thing you'd want to do immediately is fire her without cause, even in an at will state.
The transferring to another office isn't to accommodate her, its to give her incentive enough to quit on her own merits and absolve the company of any liability. You can't sue if you quit, you feel me?

IDK man, workplace gossip is a thing, and if this gets out I highly doubt any black or Jewish people in the company would feel comfortable working with her. So the only place they could realistic transfer her without friction is somewhere without any black or Jewish people, and that to me seems like rewarding her for her bigotry not punishing her.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Do you work for the KKK?

That would be a terrible job. A lot of night shifts.

 

[RustyNails]

Rusty, how about an update?

What update? Its the weekend brohim. I'll have one on Monday.

 

[Manmademan]

There's a big assumption gap in your logic in that blacks/women/gays/jews/minorities are somehow above being racists or bigots.

No there isn't, because this policy applies to everyone. You cannot get away with bashing gays if you're black. You cannot get away with bashing Muslims if you're a woman. You cannot bash Jews if you happen to be Hispanic. Our policy even extends to protecting the disabled and political affiliation.

This is why it's a zero tolerance policy. It is not singling out white people for racism, the point is that everyone is entitled to a safe workplace, and everyone is representing the institution the second they walk in the door.

 

[Manmademan]

YES. Finally, someone understands. In all seriousness though, I'm sure it isn't true everywhere, but the HR Department where I work does spend a lot of time developing useless busy work (in the form of surveys and mandatory seminars on non work related topics). It's driven me a little nuts, so my faith is low. (e.g. your mandatory stress-reduction seminar is stressing me out HR, because the hour you want me to spend there, is an hour I have to make-up on the weekend!)

You posted above, that it would be immediate termination where you work, so it sounds like the HR Department at your place is much more no-nonsense.

I work for the Pennsylvania department of corrections. It is very much no nonsense, and HR and legal work VERY closely because we get sued about once a week for everything you can think of.

I don't do my job properly then it's a shitstorm. If I sound passionate about this it's because I literally just finished a week-long orientation for new employees to make sure they all understand that we do not put up with the kind of behavior in the OP .

 

[RustyNails]

Newsflash, those are concerns employers have to worry about every day. It's a part of operating a business. You lose employees every day for all types of reasons. If you're a large enough business, you're constantly in the position of training someone new. These aren't valid excuses to keep a known toxic element on the payroll.

As for the potential lawsuit, Michigan is an at will state, so she'd have to be able to prove that she was fired erroneously. She'd also have to be prepared to go against the manager who filed the report with HR and the employee who was also present and corroborated with him. That the known toxic element might attempt to sue you for doing the right thing and canning them is also not a valid excuse to keep them around.

I want to clear up something, we work in Chicago. L is from northern Michigan. I don't think it's relevant, but I thought I would share it because she makes everyone know where she is from.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

What update? Its the weekend brohim. I'll have one on Monday.

Love ya Rusty. Maybe not "love", but respect.
Take it easy on this lady for me if you can though. She's one of my people.
Just plain ignorant, but probably just harmless.

Monday is Colombus Day btw. Party on!

 

[DoktorEvil]

IDK man, workplace gossip is a thing, and if this gets out I highly doubt any black or Jewish people in the company would feel comfortable working with her. So the only place they could realistic transfer her without friction is somewhere without any black or Jewish people, and that to me seems like rewarding her for her bigotry not punishing her.

OH I agree the only place you could transfer her is someplace where her views wouldn't be an issue, but...

If the direct manager is like me, I'd be damn malicious and send her to a workplace nearly 2-3 hours away from home or an office that she'd be so uncomfortable working for that she'd have no choice but to quit.

Once again, I'm only entertaining these solutions because I'm under the impression she has an important job or a job that is somewhat protected somehow. I have no knowledge of whether or not she's a key employee to the business.

No there isn't, because this policy applies to everyone. You cannot get away with bashing gays if you're black. You cannot get away with bashing Muslims if you're a woman. You cannot bash Jews if you happen to be Hispanic. Our policy even extends to protecting the disabled and political affiliation.

This is why it's a zero tolerance policy. It is not singling out white people for racism, the point is that everyone is entitled to a safe workplace, and everyone is representing the institution the second they walk in the door.

That's the luxury of working in government. Private employers don't normally entertain zero tolerance, not with shareholders to feed.

I can imagine Corrections having issues non-stop with HR.

I want to clear up something, we work in Chicago. L is from northern Michigan. I don't think it's relevant, but I thought I would share it because she makes everyone know where she is from.

Really? How so?
Question for you: Is she an important person in your company? Is she a new hire or anything like that?

 

[JDSN]

God this country sucks, racists are the most discriminated group in the US (Sorry black people). This is totes why I vote republican! I'm hoping we can move this country back to circa 1930 when racism was okay in the work place. Nowadays I can't even say "nigger" without the thought police beating me with their SJW batons. Ugh.

How about you people think about the feelings of the racists that you're hurting? They're just words!

This is the most amazing concept ill read this month.

 

[J10]

They are just words.
I think I should be able to walk anywhere and say whatever I want to say no matter who is around.
Everyone should be able to.

How old are you?

 

[Manmademan]

That's the luxury of working in government. Private employers don't normally entertain zero tolerance, not with shareholders to feed.

I can imagine Corrections having issues non-stop with HR.

I've only been in government since January. I was private sector until I turned 35, though not necessarily all of that was HR work.

I was management for a VERY large company, and the policy was just as no-nonsense there, because toxic workplace elements are a liability, shareholders or not. I've worked for privately held and publicly held companies and the message was always the same.

you work for a 5 person family owned shop in idaho somewhere? might be different. But if you're large enough to have an "HR department" or a "legal department", ask them what their workplace harrassment policy is. I guarantee you that officially it's not much different than "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

 

[KidGalactus]

There's a big assumption gap in your logic in that blacks/women/gays/jews/minorities are somehow above being racists or bigots. Humans are still human. Humans say inappropriate shit very often and in bad context, the workplace being one of them.

You don't find issue either with the "indirect manager" whose first priority was to run to a superior and tattle? Wouldn't the superior have much bigger shit to worry about?

I tend to take racist platitudes as threats. Even when they aren't directly malicious, or aimed at me. As such, I am sure you can understand how someone like me might feel extremely uncomfortable working at a job where people can say stuff like this, but nothing happens to them for it.

It makes the work place seem threatening. I would think that as any sort of manager, that would be a condition I'd very much like to prevent. As such, things like this could constitute the "bigger shit" I have to worry about, as a manager.

 

[Keri]

I don't do my job properly then it's a shitstorm. If I sound passionate about this it's because I literally just finished a week-long orientation for new employees to make sure they all understand that we do not put up with the kind of behavior in the OP .

No problemo, Manmademan. We're cool. Actually, there have been some recent changes to HR where I work (a new head was hired and the department reduced). I hope there's someone like you in there now! I like your no non-sense approach.

 

[Deleted member 284]

Why are people saying that this lady shouldn't be fired? If we work at the will of the employer and an employee is putting the company in a position of risk, then she needs to be gone. Dont do something that can damage the work environment and keep your racists views out of said environment.

 

[Manmademan]

No problemo, Manmademan. We're cool. Actually, there have been some recent changes to HR where I work (a new head was hired and the department reduced). I hope there's someone like you in there now! I like your no non-sense approach.

I also have a hangover from drinking and staying out late last night so I'm more ornery than usual.

I'm going to go find some breakfast.

 

[Tallshortman]

They are just words.
I think I should be able to walk anywhere and say whatever I want to say no matter who is around.
Everyone should be able to.

You don't get arrested, there's your free speech. Only a child would think it's okay to go around a workplace saying anything without there being consequences. Companies can definitely fire you for speech.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

She's been there 4 years
She's not good at her job.
People like her, but are annoyed when they have to work with her
She says blatantly racist bullshit in front of her superiors
She's old enough to know better.

This isn't like suspending a kid from school because he got caught cutting class
This isn't like sending a kid to detention because they thought graffiti would be a fun thing to try.
This isn't like missing a week from work because you forgot to call in before taking the day off.

She's a grown woman given all the advantages of having been raised in the latter part of the 20th century, and she should fucking know better by now, and coddling her solely because the economy sucks and she might not get another job very quickly is maybe the most bullshit defense of casual racism I've seen on this board recently.

They're not just words. People believe this shit. And those beliefs are literally hurting the country. It's not an abstract. Bigotry makes things appreciably worse for everyone else who ISN'T an openly bigoted asshole.

I mean, this is some Mr. Spock shit: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The entire workplace needs to be considered, not just the hypothetical future plight of the poor racist who got caught out there being a repugnant fucking person. And there are people here whose first thought was "These poor, mistreated racists." I don't understand that. This woman isn't being "mistreated." She's being treated accordingly. Any asshole in any well-managed workplace who thinks they can be an anti-semitic bigot, LOUDLY, while working in a multicultural workplace needs to go. She is making things worse for everyone and has crossed a significant line, one where the cost in employing her will be way too high for any benefit she might provide.

Being a "first offender" when you're that racist doesn't mean much. Because you're not really a "first offender," especially not at that age.

 

[cheststrongwell]

Getting a black guy in our department really helped with the casual racist talk. The weirdest thing is that the most vocal racist fucking loves this new guy. I think its good for him.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I've only been in government since January. I was private sector until I turned 35, though not necessarily all of that was HR work.

I was management for a VERY large company, and the policy was just as no-nonsense there, because toxic workplace elements are a liability, shareholders or not. I've worked for privately held and publicly held companies and the message was always the same.

you work for a 5 person family owned shop in idaho somewhere? might be different. But if you're large enough to have an "HR department" or a "legal department", ask them what their workplace harrassment policy is. I guarantee you that officially it's not much different than "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

Fair enough. I've never been put in a situation where HR policy has been implicitly spelled out for me, so there's that, but I also know that you don't share personal shit at work, religion, or politics. It's always been a very simple rule to follow, considering if one draws a check from someone's else's enterprise.

I tend to take racist platitudes as threats. Even when they aren't directly malicious, or aimed at me. As such, I am sure you can understand how someone like me might feel extremely uncomfortable working at a job where people can say stuff like this, but nothing happens to them for it.

It makes the work place seem threatening. I would think that as any sort of manager, that would be a condition I'd very much like to prevent. As such, things like this could constitute the "bigger shit" I have to worry about, as a manager.

It's something that needs to be addressed, but not necessarily something that's needs to be addressed immediately. It's a shitty comments by a bigoted woman, not "we're two months away from being unable to cover payroll and rent, hope those payroll checks don't bounce" kind of deals.

If OP's company has outlined procedures for HR regarding comments of that nature, then it's up to HR to decide/levy punishment. It's not R's job to run up to a manager and complain. If it bothered R so much, report it to HR(assuming there are proper HR procedures).

 

[Manmademan]

She's been there 4 years
She's not good at her job.
People like her, but are annoyed when they have to work with her
She says blatantly racist bullshit in front of her superiors
She's old enough to know better.

This isn't like suspending a kid from school because he got caught cutting class
This isn't like sending a kid to detention because they thought graffiti would be a fun thing to try.
This isn't like missing a week from work because you forgot to call in before taking the day off.

She's a grown woman given all the advantages of having been raised in the latter part of the 20th century, and she should fucking know better by now, and coddling her solely because the economy sucks and she might not get another job very quickly is maybe the most bullshit defense of casual racism I've seen on this board recently.

They're not just words. People believe this shit. And those beliefs are literally hurting the country. It's not an abstract. Bigotry makes things appreciably worse for everyone else who ISN'T an openly bigoted asshole.

I mean, this is some Mr. Spock shit: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The entire workplace needs to be considered, not just the hypothetical future plight of the poor racist who got caught out there being a repugnant fucking person. And there are people here whose first thought was "These poor, mistreated racists." I don't understand that. This woman isn't being "mistreated." She's being treated accordingly. Any asshole in any well-managed workplace who thinks they can be an anti-semitic bigot, LOUDLY, while working in a multicultural workplace needs to go. She is making things worse for everyone and has crossed a significant line, one where the cost in employing her will be way too high for any benefit she might provide.

Being a "first offender" when you're that racist doesn't mean much. Because you're not really a "first offender," especially not at that age.

very well said.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I love racists who use old ass terms..Jive talking? wtf lol

 

[Manmademan]

I love racists who use old ass terms..Jive talking? wtf lol

that was the part that got me. Like her impression of black people was straight out of that one scene in AIRPLANE!

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Getting a black guy in our department really helped with the casual racist talk. The weirdest thing is that the most vocal racist fucking loves this new guy. I think its good for him.

That's not even surprising. We're all brothers. Racism is mainly driven by ignorance. He's getting to know a guy he's probably stereotyped for years in his mind. He's realizing that we're all the same. It always helps if the new guy is 6'3" 255 lbs. too.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Further, the weird side-argument that is almost entirely about how "funny" or "inappropriate" it was for a manager to immediately leave the meeting upon hearing someone say something that fucking stupid out loud with a smile on her face is also incomprehensible to me. "It's not R's job to immediately tattle on this woman."

Even if I agreed with that (and I don't) I'd appreciate working with someone whose first response when faced with bullshit on that level is to work quickly on getting rid of it. As a PERSON. As a co-worker. That, to me, is valuable.

Again, this isn't "tattling." This woman didn't shoot spitwads at middle-management from the back of the class. This woman didn't draw an unflattering picture of the vice-principal on the inside of her Algebra book. She openly told two co-workers that she would never let her daughter marry a jewish person or a black man, and tried to justify that statement.

I'm going to suggest that "someone just being racist out loud" is definitely some "go straight to the nearest manager" shit. It's an offense you do react to with speed. Just because you're okay with minimizing the impact and reach of casual racism in the workplace to something you put at the bottom of a to-do list at the end of the day, and bring up offhandedly while discussing other business near the end of a meeting, doesn't mean that's the way it should be.

That kind of institutionalized, ingrained racism is absolutely harmful to any workplace, and aiding & abetting the proliferation of it, including waiting leisurely to get around to reporting it, is gross.

 

[gutter_trash]

if it's her first offense, I think that getting fired is too harsh.

I believe in the warning system, give a written warning that goes into the record and talk to her about the wrong she did and say "if you ever say anything like that again, then you are out""

this concept of firing people on 1st offense is too harsh.

I know we are in 2014 but some people have evolved as quickly need a warring to shake them up

 

[cheststrongwell]

That's not even surprising. We're all brothers. Racism is mainly driven by ignorance. He's getting to know a guy he's probably stereotyped for years in his mind. He's realizing that we're all the same. It always helps if the new guy is 6'3" 255 lbs. too.

Yeah, I was really nervous before the black dudes first day. I was afraid someone would slip up. The worst thing that's happened is this autistic janitor asking if he was Will Smith's brother(he doesn't look anything like Will Smith). The new guy replied "What, because I'm black??" You could have heard a fly land in the office.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

this concept of firing people on 1st offense is too harsh.

I know we are in 2014 but some people have evolved as quickly need a warring to shake them up

She's had right around 40 years of "warning" that her stupid fucking beliefs are destructive, harmful, and not welcomed openly in American society. This isn't a secret. Nobody hid this from her.

On the flip, this concept of people being asked to accept open racism with a shrug is silly as hell, to me.

Not all "first offenses" are of equal value. When you say "this is just her first offense" what you're not saying, but what you're MEANING, is "and being publicly racist isn't really that big a deal."

It is, though. If this were a first offense where she'd literally shit on someone's desk, she'd be fired. If this were a first offense where was caught snorting coke off a toilet seat at work, she'd be fired. No one would suggest someone was acting weird for immediately going straight to a superior after witnessing either of those two things, no one would suggest someone was being oversensitive and "tattling" on a co-worker for finding a manager asap.

But it's someone just casually mentioning they think Jewish people and black people are a lesser form of humanity, one not worthy of her bloodline? Put that at the bottom of the to-do list and don't be so mean to her, it's a tough economy.

What a load of shit.

 

[Manmademan]

if it's her first offense, I think that getting fired is too harsh.

I believe in the warning system, give a written warning that goes into the record and talk to her about the wrong she did and say "if you ever say anything like that again, then you are out""

this concept of firing people on 1st offense is too harsh.

I know we are in 2014 but some people have evolved as quickly need a warring to shake them up

Go back and read what Bobby Roberts wrote again.

There is no such thing as a "first offense" for blatantly racist behavior. This isn't her first time, this is the first time she was dumb enough to do it in front of a supervisor who wouldn't stand for it.

You cannot change deeply ingrained behavior (edit: note I'm talking about adults here. children and teens are generally more malleable) with a written warning or an hour of sensitivity training, and it shouldn't be management's job to drag you out of the 19th century.

The exchange in the OP clearly indicates that this woman does not consider the views she has are wrong at all, and tried to defend her right to be racist when called out on it. If anything, dragging her in for a "warning" isn't going to fix the problem, it's just going to feed a persecution complex, and the behavior will continue unabated- just out of sight of management.

You do not "shuffle around" or "verbally warn" this type of thing. It's pointless. What would you do if this was a man making unwanted sexual advances on a woman in the workplace? And when told his behavior was out of line he defended his right to do it? Give him a written warning? do you think that would actually fix the problem?

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Yeah, I was really nervous before the black dudes first day. I was afraid someone would slip up. The worst thing that's happened is this autistic janitor asking if he was Will Smith's brother(he doesn't look anything like Will Smith). The new guy replied "What, because I'm black??" You could have heard a fly land in the office.

A black guy that doesn't look like Will Smith's brother? I have yet to see this.

 

[jacobeid]

You and R were in the right to report this. Clearly an HR violation.

I can't see her getting a nice letter of recommendation from her boss either. Deserved.

This thread is eye-opening. My last two jobs (in the academic and industry sides if biotech) made it explicitly clear that you could face sanctions up to and including termination for violating company behavior guidelines, including racial or sexual discrimination/harassment/profanity. My current company made us watch an hour long educational video about the do's and don'ts of workplace etiquette.

And no, HR does not give a shit if you have a family. You abuse the term "thought police" when the person volunteered the information unprovoked and in mixed company.

Yup. This.

Edit: I just read through the thread. I can't believe how many people here can't grasp the concept of appropriate conduct in a professional workplace environment.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Should've just given her a warning.

 

[LuchaShaq]

So what's the point in firing her? What does it accomplish?

1. Even if you are a rascist fuck, you have HORRIBLE decision making/intelligence to espouse those views to co workers.

2. A workplace with less scumbags is happier/more productive.

Pretty simple.

 

[Manmademan]

Should've just given her a warning.

BumblebeeCody
A poverty of logical thought
(Today, 12:52 PM)

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[Bobby Roberts]

Should've just given her a warning.

Sure, if they wanna be shitty management fostering a negative work environment opening themselves up to lawsuits.

 

[Slayven]

She is a grown ass woman. Don't start none, won't be none.

 

[jacobeid]

.

Beautifully done.

 

[Calvert]

Do you work for the KKK?

I work in a machine shop with 2 other guys.

How old are you?

30 years old.

 

[jacobeid]

You can't just happen to be black or Jewish. There's a reason for everything. Let's start over.

A black guy that doesn't look like Will Smith's brother? I have yet to see this.

I was going to respond to these, but then I looked at the post history. Holy shit. People like this actually exist.

 

[Manmademan]

I was going to respond to this, but then I just looked at the post history. Holy shit. People like this actually exist.

That poster is a well known contrarian and professional troll around these parts. don't take the bait.

 

[Letterbomb]

Weird coincidence. Today I was reprimended for using the term "oriental". I've used it my entire life and never thought it as a racial slur, but apparently, it now means "object" rather than "person from the east". So what about occidental now?

Fuck being politically correct. That shit changes too much.
"Don't say black. Say African-American."
"We're not from Africa! Just call us black!"
What the fuck.

People should just be able to decipher by your words/tone what your intent is. I have a grandpa who still says "coon" due to old ass habits but has loads of black friends and loves them the same as any other of his company.

EDIT: I know I'm about to get shit on for this post but sorry GAF, just had to vent.
The woman mentioned in the OP is a racist and shouldn't be allowed to let her negative influence spread through the workplace. I'd say a strict warning should come before anything else though, if this is the first occurrence. People too ready to say "FIRE HER!" Fuck that guys, that could seriously ruin her life for all we know lmao.

 

[LuchaShaq]

I know if someone at my job said that shit and nothing happened, I would be looking for a new job/no 2 weeks/give no fucks if expensive disastrous mistakes were being made about product etc.

 

[jacobeid]

That poster is a well known contrarian and professional troll around these parts. don't take the bait.

I had never seen his posts before. Add one more to the ignore list, I guess!

 

[Slayven]

Weird coincidence. Today I was reprimended for using the term "oriental". I've used it my entire life and never thought it as a racial slur, but apparently, it now means "object" rather than "person from the east". So what about occidental now?

Fuck being politically correct. That shit changes too much.
"Don't say black. Say African-American."
"We're not from Africa! Just call us black!"
What the fuck.

People should just be able to decipher by your words/tone what your intent is. I have a grandpa who still says "coon" due to old ass habits but has loads of black friends and loves them the same as any other of his company.

EDIT: I know I'm about to get shit on for this post but sorry GAF, just had to vent.
The woman mentioned in the OP is a racist and shouldn't be allowed to let her negative influence spread through the workplace. I'd say a strict warning should come before anything else though, if this is the first occurrence. People too ready to say "FIRE HER!" Fuck that guys, that could seriously ruin her life for all we know lmao.

No he doesn't.

 

[Big Baybee]

Damn, so many people ok with casual racism. First offense lol

 

[chaobreaker]

Weird coincidence. Today I was reprimended for using the term "oriental". I've used it my entire life and never thought it as a racial slur, but apparently, it now means "object" rather than "person from the east". So what about occidental now?

Fuck being politically correct. That shit changes too much.
"Don't say black. Say African-American."
"We're not from Africa! Just call us black!"
What the fuck.

People should just be able to decipher by your words/tone what your intent is. I have a grandpa who still says "coon" due to old ass habits but has loads of black friends and loves them the same as any other of his company.

EDIT: I know I'm about to get shit on for this post but sorry GAF, just had to vent.
The woman mentioned in the OP is a racist and shouldn't be allowed to let her negative influence spread through the workplace. I'd say a strict warning should come before anything else though, if this is the first occurrence. People too ready to say "FIRE HER!" Fuck that guys, that could seriously ruin her life for all we know lmao.

You came to a thread about a GAFer's fellow employee saying some vile racist shit to vent about political correctness?

Oh, and you're in the camp of protecting her racist ass too.

 

[Order]

Weird coincidence. Today I was reprimended for using the term "oriental". I've used it my entire life and never thought it as a racial slur, but apparently, it now means "object" rather than "person from the east". So what about occidental now?

Fuck being politically correct. That shit changes too much.
"Don't say black. Say African-American."
"We're not from Africa! Just call us black!"
What the fuck.

People should just be able to decipher by your words/tone what your intent is. I have a grandpa who still says "coon" due to old ass habits but has loads of black friends and loves them the same as any other of his company.

EDIT: I know I'm about to get shit on for this post but sorry GAF, just had to vent.
The woman mentioned in the OP is a racist and shouldn't be allowed to let her negative influence spread through the workplace. I'd say a strict warning should come before anything else though, if this is the first occurrence. People too ready to say "FIRE HER!" Fuck that guys, that could seriously ruin her life for all we know lmao.

lol at using the black friends excuse.

No one cares if a racists' life is ruined. Why should we?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Weird coincidence. Today I was reprimended for using the term "oriental". I've used it my entire life and never thought it as a racial slur, but apparently, it now means "object" rather than "person from the east". So what about occidental now?

Fuck being politically correct. That shit changes too much.
"Don't say black. Say African-American."
"We're not from Africa! Just call us black!"
What the fuck.

How old are you? This is literally shit I've heard people say in sitcoms from the early 90s - and it was tired as hell then.

I have a grandpa who still says "coon" due to old ass habits but has loads of black friends and loves them the same as any other of his company.

This is shit.

. I'd say a strict warning should come before anything else though, if this is the first occurrence. People too ready to say "FIRE HER!" Fuck that guys, that could seriously ruin her life for all we know lmao.

Of course you would, you just opened with the fact you still call people of Asian descent "orientals" lmao