Driveclub PS Plus Edition Delayed by Server Issues

I'm still holding off on the full game until later.

Its not even the PS+ version I am waiting for.

Its a "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" sale.

When do those usually start? End of October?
 

Gestault

Member
Yes but they probably don't want the PS+ version to be gimped so people can experience the real game and decide that they want to buy it instead of being unimpressed by the PS+ edition and deciding not to bother when they might like it with all the features.

"Protecting" buyers by only giving the option to pay full retail price for a game because of the network situation doesn't make sense.
 
Wish they'd just release it for the single player part. That might convince me to buy the full game instead of rely on just the mostly negative reviews.
Trust me on this one. It's not a great experience when the servers are down. You really feel like half the game is missing.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
Trust me on this one. It's not a great experience when the servers are down. You really feel like half the game is missing.

Yeah, once I started getting into clubs and building fame with other people I realized just WHAT Driveclub was supposed to be.

The visuals and handling/controls are great, but the full game really isn't there without online connectivity.
 
The visuals and handling/controls are great, but the full game really isn't there without online connectivity.
I am absolutely in love with the single player/offline part of the game - purely the driving and the cars and the tracks and the visuals and the audio and changing conditions - so goood. But then add the online on top with the clubs and leaderboards which are all integrated throughout whatever you do and...

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pixelbox

Member
of course it was, but you are responding to someone who probably is in elementary school, so dont hold your breath for a (proper) answer. not all people are like that though ;)

here, pixelbox, this video I found for you. maybe you can learn something..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1iMBs0umUw

Maybe if you live in some la-la magical fairy land, everything always goes perfectly, but in the real world sometimes stuff fails and it's pretty childish to get so worked up about it. DriveClub is a pretty full package, they just ran into unanticipated problems. They didn't intentionally release a game with an online portion that wouldn't work.

I don't have money to burn (DriveClub is the second retail game I buy Day 1 for PS4 and only the third retail game overall), but I don't think having to wait for a week or two for the online portion of a game (that I can still play perfectly fine offline) to start working after a troublesome launch is cause for some ridiculous anger and FUCK EVOLUTION DEY WORST DEV EVERRR HURR DURRR reactions they've been getting. It's not like the game is fundamentally broken and can't ever be repaired.

There's a great game underneath the problems and you can probably experience it in full in the near future, so it's not like you've thrown the money away for nothing and I don't see any reason to act like they've scammed people out of money.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't feel disappointed, but some of the reactions are just so ridiculously over the top. I'm not happy myself, but I understand that these things DO happen and have the patience to wait for a while. I can play the single player and some other game(s) while I wait for DriveClub's online to work. Why should I HATE Evolution for stuff that has happened to a lot of other good games in the past? DriveClub has the potential to offer me months of enjoyment for me once they do get the online up & running reliably, so I can wait for a little while until they get their act together.

Because this member elegantly expressed my thought on the situation. maybe you can learn something..Instead of insulting people which you weren't even a part of that convo.
 

Cubed

Member
I'm still having a blast in Tour mode. I think I have about 110 stars.

When weather and online are all implemented it'll feel like a whole new game!
 

Shaneus

Member
I am absolutely in love with the single player/offline part of the game - purely the driving and the cars and the tracks and the visuals and the audio and changing conditions - so goood. But then add the online on top with the clubs and leaderboards which are all integrated throughout whatever you do and...

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It really, really, REALLY is. I love getting lost in time trials just lapping the same track over and over. It's funny how my driving style changes for a few laps when it transitions from daylight to dark and back again. Doesn't take me long to get back into it, but it definitely throws me for a minute or two.
 
Trust me on this one. It's not a great experience when the servers are down. You really feel like half the game is missing.

I dunno about all this.

People said the same about Diablo 3, but I haven't played the console version online even once, and I have no urge to.

I played through all of PGR 3 and 4 offline and had a hell of a good time. I've played Gran Turismo 6 online once; other than that, all my playtime in that game has been offline.

I really don't like this idea that multiplayer is a crucial part of games like this. I play driving games so that I can drive.

I am absolutely in love with the single player/offline part of the game - purely the driving and the cars and the tracks and the visuals and the audio and changing conditions - so goood. But then add the online on top with the clubs and leaderboards which are all integrated throughout whatever you do and...

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It really, really, REALLY is. I love getting lost in time trials just lapping the same track over and over. It's funny how my driving style changes for a few laps when it transitions from daylight to dark and back again. Doesn't take me long to get back into it, but it definitely throws me for a minute or two.

And posts like these make me a little more annoyed that I can't simply play the PS+ version offline.
 

Jamesways

Member
I am absolutely in love with the single player/offline part of the game - purely the driving and the cars and the tracks and the visuals and the audio and changing conditions - so goood. But then add the online on top with the clubs and leaderboards which are all integrated throughout whatever you do and...

That's so true, I thought the single player was great and typically, I start with that and tend to stick to TT and custom offline races, but man, tasked with leveling up your club, it's flipplin' crack rock.

Once you can join a club, it's a different game. And that's without the typical psycho MP mode even considered. Once Challenge mode is working, essentially half the game similar to FM rivals modes, all while helping level up your club, good stuff indeed.

So yeah, looking forward to the servers working as designed.


And again, in a few months, with added cars, tours, challenges, tracks, weather, all those missing features in, it'll be a different game.

I think it's great Evo has a long term vision for this, to really evolve (har har) this with more content and features.

But sure, it does beg the question if Sony did rush this or not with a strict date after the delay. Missing photo mode, replay mode, custom lobbies, etc.

And this is personal perception, but it was night and day from Playgrounds FH2 launch. I know they had some launch issues with online as well, but they really seemed to have their ducks in a row. Early copies out for reviews, demo done, everything smooth sailing for launch. And for the most part, it went great.
Just makes you wonder how much support Evo really got from Sony, in several aspects.
Far from the "Sent to Die" hyperbole in certain podcasts, but it just seems, again personal perception, that it could have been a lot better.
 
Because this member elegantly expressed my thought on the situation. maybe you can learn something..Instead of insulting people which you weren't even a part of that convo.

While I'm not insulting you, just absolutely questioning your knowledge of complaints and the internet in general after using Comcast ... Comcast, the cable company as an example of how "nobody complains when their service is down" ... what that poster so eloquently put is a broad stroke over many people.

It seems there's two camps when it comes to this "argument" you keep presenting and the person you quoted. And this is just a bad way to look at it:

Camp 1: I fucking love Driveclub, I want to sleep with it, I love Sony and they can absolutely do nothing wrong (i.e. LEAVE SONY ALONE!)

Camp 2: What a bunch of fucking assholes trying to scam people into buying their game that needs a half assed 2008 online server system to even try and play that was developed by people who should be killed.

See, now follow me on this ... there are people in between those two extremes. Those camps are on the North and South pole, there is A LOT of us in between those extremes and are discussing how this is a terrible trend. A trend where gamers defend corporations and their missteps against gamers who are unhappy with their missteps. You see the problem? Sony fucked up. Evo fucked up. People are calling them out (a very small minority is asking for people to be killed. I've been part of this thread for a while and I don't get that from anybody the last few pages).

But for some reason, it's WRONG for us to say something. That's messed up. It's irresponsible in this day and age that a massive company like Sony with their studio Evolution can't launch an online game.

It's bullshit when Blizzard can't do it. It's bullshit when EA does it. Nobody should get a pass.
 
Far from the "Sent to Die" hyperbole in certain podcasts, but it just seems, again personal perception, that it could have been a lot better.
I hope we find out at some point, just for curiosity's sake. Maybe some press sneak fucks will find the story, of course after they figure out just what the hell happened with Destiny. Inquiring minds and all that.
 

pixelbox

Member
While I'm not insulting you, just absolutely questioning your knowledge of complaints and the internet in general after using Comcast ... Comcast, the cable company as an example of how "nobody complains when their service is down" ... what that poster so eloquently put is a broad stroke over many people.

It seems there's two camps when it comes to this "argument" you keep presenting and the person you quoted. And this is just a bad way to look at it:

Camp 1: I fucking love Driveclub, I want to sleep with it, I love Sony and they can absolutely do nothing wrong (i.e. LEAVE SONY ALONE!)

Camp 2: What a bunch of fucking assholes trying to scam people into buying their game that needs a half assed 2008 online server system to even try and play that was developed by people who should be killed.

See, now follow me on this ... there are people in between those two extremes. Those camps are on the North and South pole, there is A LOT of us in between those extremes and are discussing how this is a terrible trend. A trend where gamers defend corporations and their missteps against gamers who are unhappy with their missteps. You see the problem? Sony fucked up. Evo fucked up. People are calling them out (a very small minority is asking for people to be killed. I've been part of this thread for a while and I don't get that from anybody the last few pages).

But for some reason, it's WRONG for us to say something. That's messed up. It's irresponsible in this day and age that a massive company like Sony with their studio Evolution can't launch an online game.

It's bullshit when Blizzard can't do it. It's bullshit when EA does it. Nobody should get a pass.

The squeakiest wheel…You try to be condescending (like now) and while I'm aware of internet hyperbole, the shit is overdone and causes unnecessary harm. I am also aware of the varying viewpoints of the argument, but the hyperbole needs to stop. And coming from an organized forum like Neogaf is just disappointing.
 

Gestault

Member
I prefer that over them simply repeating that they are "working hard on it"...

I'd just have hoped that they'd have a roadmap of sorts, enough at least to make a "we hope to have X done by Y, after which we'll be rolling out the PS+ Edition" sort of statement.
 
The squeakiest wheel…You try to be condescending (like now) and while I'm aware of internet hyperbole, the shit is overdone and causes unnecessary harm. I am also aware of the varying viewpoints of the argument, but the hyperbole needs to stop. And coming from an organized forum like Neogaf is just disappointing.



Dude, whatever. If you're aware of the VAST MAJORITY not grabbing pitchforks and just discussing how they dropped the ball then why focus on the people that want the attention? Makes no sense.

I buy stuff I like and that I have time for. Guess what just happened today? Assetto Corsa release candidate came out. I probably won't even download DC at this point for a few weeks if at all. Could have easily been an impulse purchase if I enjoyed what it offered and it does look great. But now my racing time seems to be all booked up!
 

Vire

Member
Still haven't even fixed the main servers for the people who bought the game? I think some refunds are in order..

This is getting silly.
 

Megasoum

Banned
I'd just have hoped that they'd have a roadmap of sorts, enough at least to make a "we hope to have X done by Y, after which we'll be rolling out the PS+ Edition" sort of statement.

They didn't havea roadmap for the actual release so it's asking them a lot to have one now.
 

bombshell

Member
No updates in the last two days from the Facebook page :S

Uhm what? There was an update yesterday:

After more successful upgrades and updates to the servers today, performance continues to improve and more of you will be able to play online together.
We're still working, and will be around the clock, to keep improving social connectivity and online play, and we are pleased to say we have also added in friendly leaderboards now.
We will have info about more updates to the game and the servers soon. In the mean time, while this work continues, we are also paying attention to all of the feedback and comments you're sharing with us too - so please keep sharing so that we can keep improving the game and giving you more to play for.

https://www.facebook.com/driveclubofficial/posts/711096815641348
 
At this point, I wonder why they haven't just stripped the online component out of the PS+ version and put it up. Would that be technically feasible? Just putting in code that would prevent the game from connecting to their servers or something?
 

Danlord

Member
A few moments ago I got this on the PlayStation App, and it won't appear on my PS4;

It won't let me click the icon to redeem the voucher either..


Anyone else get this and know what it's about? It's also the first time I've seen the notifications from PlayStation actually be used.
 

pixelbox

Member
Dude, whatever. If you're aware of the VAST MAJORITY not grabbing pitchforks and just discussing how they dropped the ball then why focus on the people that want the attention? Makes no sense.

I buy stuff I like and that I have time for. Guess what just happened today? Assetto Corsa release candidate came out. I probably won't even download DC at this point for a few weeks if at all. Could have easily been an impulse purchase if I enjoyed what it offered and it does look great. But now my racing time seems to be all booked up!

Because "The squeakiest wheel". They make the game look bad when it's perfectly playable. I want Evo to survive, love them as a dev.
 
Because "The squeakiest wheel". They make the game look bad when it's perfectly playable. I want Evo to survive, love them as a dev.

I honestly don't even know what you're arguing for or against anymore. You want people to stop complaining? Why, this developer didn't deliver on time. You want the "squeaky wheel" to stop? Don't pay any attention. How many trolls do you know that stick around if nobody is watching/caring?

I don't get it. You're against the people that are calling for crazy shit but those are the ones you're giving attention to. And then if it is civilized you don't want that either because you love them as a dev and the game is "perfectly playable". Funny, I am not able to play it and I was told I would have it a week ago. In the OT I see people still having connection issues. If by "playable" you mean a social-driven racing game based on the "club" aspect so much it has it in its name is only playable 'offline', then yes. Perfectly playable.
 
At this point, I wonder why they haven't just stripped the online component out of the PS+ version and put it up. Would that be technically feasible? Just putting in code that would prevent the game from connecting to their servers or something?

They should at least be able tell it the servers are at a local ip address so that it doesn't send anything out.
I think the ball is in Sony's court for this, and they'd rather delay the free one until it can show off the game as originally intended.
 
Pretty pathetic, honestly. I had some mild interest but that's slowly waning.

That's what's truly damaging about the whole situation. This isn't summer, where we have a drought of games. Every day that Driveclub doesn't work, and there is no PS+ edition to sway potential purchases, is another day where a huge game releases. My interest in a purchase was riding on enjoying that PS+ edition, but now that the whole "new game" novelty of it is gone, I've almost completely lost interest in even trying it out.
 

Robso

Member
I got a review copy, reviewed DriveClub and liked it that much that I then bought the PS Plus Upgrade to support the studio. I think the game is amazing. All these self entitled people who never even bought the game and are still moaning should shut up imo. There is still plenty of value for money in PS Plus with or without the DriveClub PS Plus Edition.

If you want the game that bad you'll buy it, because even without the servers it's awesome.

Or you could shut up with your Sony biased drivel?
 

SegaShack

Member
A few moments ago I got this on the PlayStation App, and it won't appear on my PS4;


It won't let me click the icon to redeem the voucher either..


Anyone else get this and know what it's about? It's also the first time I've seen the notifications from PlayStation actually be used.
How are peoole ignoring this post? Seems significant.
 
At this point, I wonder why they haven't just stripped the online component out of the PS+ version and put it up. Would that be technically feasible? Just putting in code that would prevent the game from connecting to their servers or something?

They can't, it needs to be online because of PS+. When you don't pay for PS+ anymore, you lose the PS+ Driveclub as well. Stupid decision but this is how it goes.
 

GoaThief

Member
It really, really, REALLY is. I love getting lost in time trials just lapping the same track over and over. It's funny how my driving style changes for a few laps when it transitions from daylight to dark and back again. Doesn't take me long to get back into it, but it definitely throws me for a minute or two.
Problem is with hotlapping in DC is that there are no leader boards 90+% of the time, which really defeats the object of hotlaps in the first place.

I don't belive the offline times are uploaded when a connection is reestablished (message also pops up stating data may not be synced), can anyone confirm this?

I'm on the verge of requesting a refund to be honest, and that's a shame because there isn't a bad game hiding under this mess. My preorder bonus doesn't work (errors when attempting to download), and as they're early unlocks that makes them totally redundant with a little playtime. I would not be adverse to rebuying if it goes on sale or making do with the PS+ edition, but the situation is terrible at present.
 
This just in:

Over the next 24 hours we are rolling out a new game update alongside server upgrades that will help to improve server performance, clubs and multiplayer functionality.

We are also running essential diagnostics periodically to help us continue to improve server performance, which may disrupt online play for you when you get connected. This will be kept to a minimum.

We're glad that more of you are getting to play online but we are sorry that many players are still having a hard time getting connected. We are working around the clock to improve connectivity and will keep you informed as we continue to make progress.

https://www.facebook.com/driveclubofficial?ref=br_tf
 

Noobcraft

Member
A few moments ago I got this on the PlayStation App, and it won't appear on my PS4;


It won't let me click the icon to redeem the voucher either..


Anyone else get this and know what it's about? It's also the first time I've seen the notifications from PlayStation actually be used.
Interesting. I bought it physically and ended up just trading it in a few days later for $40. Did you contact Sony about not getting the preorder bonus at all?
 

Calabi

Member
That's what's truly damaging about the whole situation. This isn't summer, where we have a drought of games. Every day that Driveclub doesn't work, and there is no PS+ edition to sway potential purchases, is another day where a huge game releases. My interest in a purchase was riding on enjoying that PS+ edition, but now that the whole "new game" novelty of it is gone, I've almost completely lost interest in even trying it out.

Yeah, Project Cars or The Crew will probably be out by the time they fix this.
 

Danlord

Member
Interesting. I bought it physically and ended up just trading it in a few days later for $40. Did you contact them about it at all?

I bought the digital upgrade for £34.99 and with the server issues, no pre-order DLC but I got the alert on the Official PlayStation App on my tablet and it has the announcement about Driveclub and a button to redeem the vouchers. Now people in the OT have that and received it on their PS4's so it brings you to the store to redeem the 3 cars and a FAME multiplier but because I read it first on the App, my PS4 doesn't have the announcement so I can't redeem it :(

There's a new update in the next 24 hours so I'm going to wait until after that and see where I stand. I have uni work so I can be pre-occupied by that but when I'm done I want to start properly playing Driveclub and have my pre-order cars in my garage and start my own club.
 
Yeah, Project Cars or The Crew will probably be out by the time they fix this.

That's increasingly likely.

The issue is code, not equipment, and it's not as if adding a few dozen servers will solve the problem. That means Evolution is digging through code, editing, testing—rinse and repeat.

The process takes time. And judging by posts in the OT, the game still struggles to connect or maintain that connection. We may be looking at another week or two before it's fixed. That puts us into November.

ProjectCARS packs dozens more cars and a very impressive track list. There's no way I'm spending on $50 on DriveClub two weeks before PCARS launches.
 

i_max

Neo Member
That's increasingly likely.

The issue is code, not equipment, and it's not as if adding a few dozen servers will solve the problem. That means Evolution is digging through code, editing, testing—rinse and repeat.

The process takes time. And judging by posts in the OT, the game still struggles to connect or maintain that connection. We may be looking at another week or two before it's fixed. That puts us into November.

ProjectCARS packs dozens more cars and a very impressive track list. There's no way I'm spending on $50 on DriveClub two weeks before PCARS launches.

Precisely why I returned my copy.
 

Agent X

Member
I'd just have hoped that they'd have a roadmap of sorts, enough at least to make a "we hope to have X done by Y, after which we'll be rolling out the PS+ Edition" sort of statement.

That's exactly what I would have hoped for, too. Even if it's still a week or more away, some sort of estimate would be nice.
 
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