Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S2 |OT| Can Secret Warriors Prevent A Civil War? - Off Season
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fallengorn
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Jest Chillin
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If you don't own a Neilsen box or have a few million friends that do... there's not much point in constantly asking about the ratings unless you have an avid interest in broadcast tv in general (which there's two threads for already) or you plan on dropping the show immediately if it's going to be cancelled.
Lamenting over a poor ratings week does literally nothing.
For the marquee ABC show the Shield ratings are pathetic. I don't think anyone can deny that. Even in the target audience it still ranks third or fourth on a weekly basis. Luckily its safe for the season unless it has a drastic drop. I still think a reschedule to Fridays might be possible.
Affeinvasion
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I would hardly call it ABC's marquee show...
Do you even know how much I don't give a shit?
This is definitely not ABC's marquee show. Modern Family likely has that title, and if you count dramas, that would fall to Scandal.
HP_Wuvcraft
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We've had three weeks of the show maintaining similar ratings. It has stabilized. Errbody relax.
Does AoS still get a ratings bump? T_T
I care more about people watching it than it not getting cancelled. Both because they're one in the same and because I really think people need to be watching now that it's more than competent. Ratings haven't dropped at any one point in the season so far have they?
Tim the Wiz
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ABC is Shondaland. Everything else is just gravy.
So.....
Has there been any news or teaser out there regarding Clark Gregg's future?
I've only watched up to episode four, so maybe it's handled already in episode five, but the idea that he might go loco and May has to resort to a contingency sucks. Whole reason I started watching the show was because Coulson was one of of my favorite characters in the MCU.
What's his contractual status?
Has there been any news or teaser out there regarding Clark Gregg's future?
I've only watched up to episode four, so maybe it's handled already in episode five, but the idea that he might go loco and May has to resort to a contingency sucks. Whole reason I started watching the show was because Coulson was one of of my favorite characters in the MCU.
What's his contractual status?
Unknown.
There is a theory doing the rounds that
the reason the larger MCU hasn't been told he is back to life and the reason they're suddenly padding out the cast is so that he can re-die in time for AoU and not confuse people
fallengorn
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Eh... I guess that's possible, but then you're just throwing the one big feature people tune in for out the window. That's venturing on show suicide for them.
I think it partly speaks to his insecurity regarding Simmons, and this is just a reflection of how he thinks Simmons might think - going for a stereotypical muscle physique as opposed to Fitz' own. He may know that Simmons is on an important mission, but he's still thinking that she also left for other reasons (rejection/moving on).
He simply misses her and the dynamism they shared when she was still around, and he's making this up to fuel that need for imaginary-Simmons.
I do wonder if imaginary-Simmons will still be around, if just to confuse his poor mind even further now that real-Simmons has returned.
This is a very good point. I wonder if we will have a scene with HEADSimmons and REALSimmons at the same time.
The Elite
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That doesn't even make much sense.
Part of that makes sense; .
lure people in with a familiar face, then once you've built a relationship with your viewers through other characters, push aside the transitional characters
That said, in Avengers, with Fury using Coulson's "death" and his card collection, particularly lying about where he found the cards, could add enough doubt over his fate that those that have only watched the films aren't totally blindsided.
I don't see a reason why they can't have a reveal in AoU regarding Coulson being alive. We've seen Fury, and obviously Maria Hill, in AoU, and whilst I don't expect SHIELD to feature prominently in the next film, I could see a scenario where once again, Coulson is used to heal any fractures within the Avengers (Hopefully this time without a spear through the chest).
If the MCU is heading where we all think it's heading (no expert here, only going by what we know and what fellow GAF'ers are talking about), then wouldn't it make sense for SHIELD to have a continued presence? If so, then their new Director, to have sort of impact or narrative relevance to existing Avengers, should be a familiar face. Coulson, or Hill, are surely the only two candidates, if you look at it from the film side of things?
I just want more Phil.
I guess it's born from people over-thinking and getting ahead of themselves four/five episodes in (Hi!).
fallengorn
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It depends on where they want the MCU to go. I don't think they're going to bring SHIELD back anytime soon just because they want the Avengers to be the only people capable of handling these big threats.
If they were to reintroduce Coulson back it'd have to be in a movie and he'd have to be integral to the plot in some way, because the movie is going to come to halt to having to explain to people how he's alive to movie viewers and the cast has to have their appropriate reactions. (Either that or they just add a subtitle "Watch the first season of Agents of SHIELD, true believers!")
Rafa=FedKilla
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Well, before watching The Avengers, viewers were expected to have watched Iron Man 1 and 2, Captain America and Thor (and to a lesser extent The Incredible Hulk). Those characters weren't introduced in that movie, their identities and abilities weren't really explained, they were just there and viewers were expected to have all this prior information.
If Marvel really considers Agents of SHIELD to be part of the MCU, it could expect viewers to have watched the entirety of the show up to the point that Avengers: AoU premieres. In which case, Coulson could appear in the movie doing director of SHIELD things without explanation because the audience is expected to have prior information about why he's alive and in that position. Just like the expectation that viewers have watched Iron Man 3, Captain America: TWS and Thor: TDW since the last Avengers movie.
If Marvel really considers Agents of SHIELD to be part of the MCU, it could expect viewers to have watched the entirety of the show up to the point that Avengers: AoU premieres. In which case, Coulson could appear in the movie doing director of SHIELD things without explanation because the audience is expected to have prior information about why he's alive and in that position. Just like the expectation that viewers have watched Iron Man 3, Captain America: TWS and Thor: TDW since the last Avengers movie.
Pai Pai Master
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We're pretty sure Clark Gregg isn't appearing in AoU (he said before he wasn't asked about it so he probably wasn't involved in any filming).
Either way you really don't need to have watched all of SHIELD to get the impact of Coulson returning to the films if/when he does. Fury is in all these Avengers movies too, it takes like 10 seconds for him to explain that "SHIELD has methods to save lives" and that he made Coulson the director of the new SHIELD when he went dark.
Either way you really don't need to have watched all of SHIELD to get the impact of Coulson returning to the films if/when he does. Fury is in all these Avengers movies too, it takes like 10 seconds for him to explain that "SHIELD has methods to save lives" and that he made Coulson the director of the new SHIELD when he went dark.
StarCreator
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... and I've -still- not seen The Incredible Hulk nor Thor: TDW.
Jest Chillin
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They'd still do a reveal since none of The Avengers themselves don't know he's alive yet. When Coulson returned to duty, he immediately began leading the AoS team so he's had no contact with Cap, BW, or Hawkeye and none of the other Agents who know he's alive had any reason to tell any of them. So what we'd get would be a Coulson's Alive reveal to The Avengers that would also serve to re-introduce him to the viewers.
But you don't need to have seen any pre-Avengers movie, to understand Avengers.
Considering some continuity issues between Thor and Avengers, which Avengers tried to explain, it may even have been easier for viewers to understand, who have not seen Thor.
dead souls
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Stabilized at a pretty terrible number. It's a long time until May. I'm most interested to see how the break for Agent Carter effects the numbers in the spring.
fallengorn
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They did a fair amount of character introductions, although they were weaved pretty well into the narrative. (Cap's flashbacks were probably the worst of them.) They could probably do something similar with Coulson and just have Fury say a few words, like Pai Pai says. But his death was a fairly important plot point in the first movie. Hand-waving his resurrection would be a disservice to his relationships with the Avengers. Unless they really don't care about him, then by all means they could do that.
I guess what it comes down to ks how integral AoS is tho the MCU. Even though it's "all connected," to me, AoS still feels like a show existing only because it's a cool marketing deal for Disney/ABC.
Jest Chillin
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I think expecting AoS to affect the movies is looking at things backwards. The premise of the show is what do the "regular" people do in this Universe. The nature of that really is that they have minimal, if any, influence on the big threats but the big threats should have far reaching affect on them. After big battles.. you don't have Cap, Tony, Banner, etc.. cleaning up the messes. They don't search the battlefield to pick up the technology that's scattered in remnants. They don't see to the victims and relatives of victims caught in the cross fire. They neutralize the big threat and move on. So shows like AoS depict what happens with these things. How the the regular people are affected. What happens to the run of the mill henchmen who escape. How they deal with the would-be great threats before they get so big as to warrant Avenger attention.
thecouncil
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has this been posted?
Are FitzSimmons Back to Normal? - clip from next week's episode.
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Are FitzSimmons Back to Normal? - clip from next week's episode.
edit: non-region locked link
Cornballer
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Thanks, I don't think it's been posted yet. Please remember to spoiler tag discussion.
bananafactory
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I don't understand Nicky Fury's role in Avengers 2, now that Coulson is director of SHIELD (which is largely defunct anyway).
Jest Chillin
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Well it's not like Nick just handed over the reigns to what was left of SHIELD and went to go chill in Tahi-..err.. Hawaii. He's working on other things in the meantime.
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gee, thanks ¬¬
Maybe he's starting the Black Panther movement (heh heh heh)
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