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Blizzard

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Looking at the thread, it seems that scary times are afoot.

I don't know anything about that, but I wanted to say something about comics in general. I don't think I have ever had a comic book and someone got me a bound edition of Batman: The Long Halloween as a gift. Seasonal! So, I plan to read that.
 

Messi

Member
Looking at the thread, it seems that scary times are afoot.

I don't know anything about that, but I wanted to say something about comics in general. I don't think I have ever had a comic book and someone got me a bound edition of Batman: The Long Halloween as a gift. Seasonal! So, I plan to read that.

I really enjoyed The Long Halloween. I hope you come back and tell us how you feel about it once you have read it.
 

Slayven

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We'll end up in the Community ghetto with more threads like last month's. There was already a lot of rabble rousing in the "OTs on release date" thread about why we're still in OT when other threads aren't. If that happens, all OT is left with as far as comics is Slayven threads about which Celestial would win in a pissing contest.

I am hurt
 
I know I don't say much in here other than endlessly praising deadpool and grayson and trashing the books my roommates grab, but personally I think that things are fine staying in the ComicGAF thread. Too many offshoots sucks. Personally, I don't even think we need the discussion threads for the marvel events either.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Dare I suggest that all of the "girly avatars and girly statues and Rafa superstar teasing" and "shooting the shit" sometimes hinders actual comics discussion from taking root?

Someone will post a substantial comment about a book and in no time at all we're two pages further based on idle chitchat. I'm not sure that fosters much in-depth conversation about anything regardless of publisher. It makes it harder for people to even stumble upon topics to discuss, and I suspect might discourage people from actually writing up a solid comment. Why take the time when the post will be quickly buried, probably without response?
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Looking at the thread, it seems that scary times are afoot.

I don't know anything about that, but I wanted to say something about comics in general. I don't think I have ever had a comic book and someone got me a bound edition of Batman: The Long Halloween as a gift. Seasonal! So, I plan to read that.

For me, this is the best Batman Story ever writte . I am looking forward to hear what you think about it afterwards ;)
 
I'm going to take sides in the Comic GAF Civil War. But you'll have to wait until next month to find out what side that is.

I am hurt

This is fallout from your Legion shit talking. I warned you. I told you what would happen.

I know I don't say much in here other than endlessly praising deadpool and grayson and trashing the books my roommates grab, but personally I think that things are fine staying in the ComicGAF thread. Too many offshoots sucks. Personally, I don't even think we need the discussion threads for the marvel events either.

Why don't you trash their books to your roommates faces?! They deserve no less.
 
Dare I suggest that all of the "girly avatars and girly statues and Rafa superstar teasing" and "shooting the shit" sometimes hinders actual comics discussion from taking root?

Someone will post a substantial comment about a book and in no time at all we're two pages further based on idle chitchat. I'm not sure that fosters much in-depth conversation about anything regardless of publisher. It makes it harder for people to even stumble upon topics to discuss, and I suspect might discourage people from actually writing up a solid comment. Why take the time when the post will be quickly buried, probably without response?

Thank you.
 
Dare I suggest that all of the "girly avatars and girly statues and Rafa superstar teasing" and "shooting the shit" sometimes hinders actual comics discussion from taking root?

Oh you don't have to suggest it; its a fact. As a person who has written many large posts(if do say so myself), I'm pretty much writing it for the non-girly avatar girly statue crowd that might actually read it(Kipp, fyre, tim, Birdie, and filthy slug, mainly)
 

Parch

Member
I understand the concerns. Problem is you skip GAF for a day or two and the Comic thread has 20 pages you haven't read. I still think a specific thread on something like an event would help with the focus, but company threads are too fanboy.

BTW, Community isn't a ghetto. The sports threads do just fine.
 

PsychBat!

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Dare I suggest that all of the "girly avatars and girly statues and Rafa superstar teasing" and "shooting the shit" sometimes hinders actual comics discussion from taking root?

Someone will post a substantial comment about a book and in no time at all we're two pages further based on idle chitchat. I'm not sure that fosters much in-depth conversation about anything regardless of publisher. It makes it harder for people to even stumble upon topics to discuss, and I suspect might discourage people from actually writing up a solid comment. Why take the time when the post will be quickly buried, probably without response?
There is always a fine line between the two. Sometimes I do a decent write up on something and gets ignored and other times it doesn't. If it was all the other way then the sense of community could be hampered. But I make an effort to read all posts in these threads every day and not just the latest page. So when I see good discussions that interest me I'll reply to them. I'm always an outlier on weds since I wait for digital discounts or MU but I still get a good sense of the books that came out without spoilers. But I'd say I've read more books overall then most around here so I don't show up except sales and retrospective like posts
 

Cade

Member
Guys I leave for ONE HOLIDAY DAY and you guys do this. Why? Why.

Why?


why

Hey are there any variants for Multiversity 4 aka PAX AMERICANA
 
Hmmmm, I do think it's fair to say that if we want to remain in the OT, we should hold ourselves to a *slightly* higher standard (and I do include myself in this) when it comes to "noise" posting, but for the most part I think it's fine. There is a line here and we probably crossed it last month, but do we usually? No, we don't, so there's really not much to talk about. If it becomes a pattern I'm sure we'll end up right where we belong...in community....itself, not the end if the world and frankly a boon to those posters who prefer this thread a certain way. With so many threads committed to major storylines this seems like a likelier move all the time anyway.

Splitting the thread, get that crazy talk outta here, that is just nuts.
 

PsychBat!

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I'd like to be a tie-in book

There is always a fine line between the two. Sometimes I do a decent write up on something and gets ignored and other times it doesn't. If it was all the other way then the sense of community could be hampered. But I make an effort to read all posts in these threads every day and not just the latest page. So when I see good discussions that interest me I'll reply to them. I'm always an outlier on weds since I wait for digital discounts or MU but I still get a good sense of the books that came out without spoilers. But I'd say I've read more books overall then most around here so I don't show up except sales and retrospective like posts

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Just waiting for the TetraxShards' comic description now.
 
Nice to have it all out in the open now

Feels good, actually.

I'll try to post more about comics. I've been doing rapid reviews on another board, I should star cross-posting them here. They tend to be fairly random though. I get my books weekly but I prefer to let them pile up. Some stuff I read as it comes out, like The Multiversity and Spider-Verse which I'm hugely excited about as I love multiverse stuff. Otherwise, I read a lot of series in chunks.

Here's the most recent lot of Rapid Reviews:
Ghostbusters Volume 5: The New Ghostbusters (collects Ghostbusters [2013] #1-4)
“How on Earth did the Ghostbusters manage to catch anything without wrecking half the city?”
“Oh sweetie….they didn’t.”


One by one, the Ghostbusters team are spirited away to a different dimension. Three months later, with no sign of their return, it falls to Janine, Kylie (the Extreme Ghostbusters character recast as Ray’s assistant), FBI agent Melanie Ortiz (definitely not a Latino Agent Scully, no way) and ex-con Ron Alexander (an old foe of the Ghostbusters who duplicated the teams proton packs in an earlier volume) to chase after the classic team, keep New York ghost-free and somehow keep Walter Peck from destroying the whole business.

Erik Burnham has been writing the Ghostbusters since IDW’s Infestation crossover in 2011 and he has a good grasp of both the characters and their world. Its backed with Dan Schoening’s wildly energetic cartooning. Over-exaggerated facial features and hairstyles that threaten to go full anime are the order of the day here, but it helps to get across the cast’s personalities. It goes a long way towards fleshing out the New Ghostbusters in particular, whose dialogue feels a little flat despite being filled to the brim with quips. It lifts near the end as the antagonists are revealed and the groundwork is laid for 2014’s 30th Anniversary story “Mass Hysteria”.

This series treats only the two movies and the 2009 video game as canon, but other elements worm their way in throughout the story. They’re not distracting, and there’s no way I spotted them all anyway.

As a bonus, there’s an extra story set in the Real Ghostbusters timeline, examining what happens to a ghost after they’re locked in the Containment Unit. At only two pages per issue, it needs to get through its’ story quick, but its entertaining and fun to revisit that world.

IDW’s stable of licensed titles comes in for its’ share of flack, but I think it’s fair to say that they treat their properties with respect while adding their own details along the way. “The New Ghostbusters” sets up a raft of possibilities for the Boys in Grey and I’m looking forward to digging into the rest of the series.

7.5/10

Predator vs. Judge Dredd vs. Aliens (collects Predator vs. Judge Dredd #1-3 and Judge Dredd vs. Aliens: Incubus #1-4)

2000 AD and Dark Horse team up to bring you this collection of The Galaxy’s Greatest Lawman vs. two of cinema’s greatest monsters. The collection opens up with the Predator mini, in which the hunter stalks the streets of Mega City One, hunting the Judges for sport. As casualties mount up, Dredd is forced to turn to Psi-Judge Schaefer, a descendant of Arnie’s character from the original Predator. John Wagner is great as usual when it comes to his most famous creation, but the art by Enrique Alcatena has much the same problem as the IDW Dredd, it feels too clean for the setting even allowing for the Predator’s signature kills. Still, it’s worth it for the glorious stupidity of the final fight, involving mechas, psychic blood imprints and Dredd stripping down (but still not taking the helmet off) to have a good wrestle/knife fight with the Predator.

Incubus has a similar nod to past continuity in its’ ranks, as a young Judge named Sanchez plays a vital role. There’s less attempt to explain the history of the Aliens than the Predators, but there’s less of a need to do so. They arrive, they kill people, they go on to kill more. The art is much better here though the writing is laboured in places, possibly due to the addition of Andy Diggle to help with the heavy lifting. There’s some seriously clunky dialogue here, coming as close to anime-style calling of attacks during the battles with the Alien.

Both stories are good fun, though they don’t deal with the heavier themes of better-known Dredd arcs. As crossovers go, the novelty of the ideas carries the stories through some pacing problems and uneven dialogue.

8/10

New Excalibur: Defenders of the Realm (collects New Excalibur [2005] #1-7)
New Excalibur: The Last Days of Camelot (collects New Excalibur [2005] #8-15)


With Captain Britain joining the Illuminati in New Avengers, and a British Spider-Man and the Captain Britain Corps being a part of Spider-Verse, it feels like a good time to look through the adventures of the good Captain. Rather than being a full reunion of the Claremont/Davis team, this book sees Brian Braddock and Pete Wisdom joined by Sage, Dazzler, Juggernaut and Exiles favourite Nocturne. In this run of adventures, they face a team of X-Men with a dark secret, an attack from Albion and the other Captain Britain of 616 Lionheart and journey to Camelot to prevent Arthur and Merlin’s early death.

This is from around the time that Chris Claremont was slowly losing his grip (partially due to health issues) and while it’s not as bad as his Exiles run, it’s not nearly as good as the book’s 90s peak. The book suffers in collected format, like many modern Marvel books, by being unable to keep a regular artist so the image of the book is all over the place. The collection of characters just doesn’t gel, there’s no feeling of a team dynamic like the great team books. At this stage, I’m just hanging on to get to Captain Britain & MI-13, which I’ve heard nothing but good things about.

4/10

Future reviews may include:
Pathfinder: Dark Water Rising, Of Tooth and Claw, City of Secrets
Nikolai Dante: Too Cool to Kill
The original Suicide Squad series
And whatever else takes my fancy
 

Zombine

Banned
I feel like the only way to keep everyone here is to posts walls of inane bullshit and masturbatory language talking about meaphors in comics and shit...and I doubt that's going to happen.

You may want to go to NYU and go to one of Snyder's lectures or read Morrison's book if that's the case, because all of us can't be scholars of the medium 24/7. Sometimes you just need to chip away at that tsundere.
 
Oh you don't have to suggest it; its a fact. As a person who has written many large posts(if do say so myself), I'm pretty much writing it for the non-girly avatar girly statue crowd that might actually read it(Kipp, fyre, tim, Birdie, and filthy slug, mainly)

I got you, JC. I got you.

Personally, I've never been one to write particularly long impressions or thoughts on books but that's just because I've never felt all that comfortable writing out things like that. I'm much more of a visual person so it's hard for me to really get my thoughts down in a way that's cohesive. That being said, I do enjoy reading long posts from everyone here. Sometimes I'll skip over them if it's a post talking in great detail about a book I have zero interest in (sorry New Avengers / Avengers guys), but I like to see what everyone thinks about what they read. You guys have led me to a lot of great stories in my brief time here that I probably would've skipped otherwise. Casanova, for example, is something I'm definitely going to check out once the new editions come out thanks to our community.

I guess we should cool it with the idle chat a bit, but it's fun to have it sprinkled in here and there. It lets us get to know each other a little better and makes the place more lax for everyone.
 

phoenixyz

Member
Last month ComicGAF had an average of over 300 posts per day. I think it would be quite benificial to open threads about certain topics to make things a little bit more manageable. That wouldn't mean that ComicGAF suddenly ceases to exists.
 
The idle chit chat is connective tissue, like it or not, when there are so many different things to discuss in one thread all the time. There are posters I like talking to even if we don't read the same stuff.
 
Last month ComicGAF had an average of over 300 posts per day. I think it would be quite benificial to open threads about certain topics to make things a little bit more manageable. That wouldn't mean that ComicGAF suddenly ceases to exists.

You have to figure out how many of those 300 posts were from Messi, though.
 
Future reviews may include:
Nikolai Dante: Too Cool to Kill
The original Suicide Squad series

Looking forward to it

I'm sorry you had to read New Excalibur. Had I known ahead of time, I would have warned you. Post-91 Claremont is an approach with caution sign. Like Frank Miller nowadays.
 
Last month ComicGAF had an average of over 300 posts per day. I think it would be quite benificial to open threads about certain topics to make things a little bit more manageable. That wouldn't mean that ComicGAF suddenly ceases to exists.

I've been a regular poster in SteamGAF and SmashGAF. That's nothing.
 
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Just waiting for the TetraxShards' comic description now.

CIVIL WAR: FRONT PAGE #1 (of 8)
BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (W) • SARA PICHELLI (A/C)
VARIANT COVER BY KIPP
• "All I wanted was to talk comics."
• WHAT IS PROJECT D.I.S.C.U.S.S.I.O.N.?
• HOW DOES IT RELATE TO GEKETTER, THE CHARACTER FIND OF 2014?
• AND HOW WILL IT ROCK COMICGAF TO ITS CORE?
• PLUS: SPIKE ANSWERS HIS CRITICS (AND HE'S NOT HAPPY!)
32 Pgs/Rated LEWD....$4.99

'MAZING MESSI #997 (W)
ANN NOCENTI (W) • AMANDA CONNER (A/C)
VARIANT COVER BY FRANK QUITELY
"LEWD LOVE" PART ONE - A COMICGAF CIVIL WAR CHAPTER
• 10% OF COMICGAF, BUT 90% OF OUR HEARTS
• HE VOTES FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IN
• BUT CAN HE CHOOSE BETWEEN THE COMICS HE LOVES AND THE STATUES HE DESIRES?
• AND WHAT WILL HE DO....WITH ONE MORE MISTAH J?
32 Pgs/Rated LEWD....Drawing the Line at $2.99
 
Looking forward to it

I'm sorry you had to read New Excalibur. Had I known ahead of time, I would have warned you. Post-91 Claremont is an approach with caution sign. Like Frank Miller nowadays.
Yea. He was a great writer for his time but I always was annoyed at how his captions always would describe the same thing the art was explaining just fine. As writer style started to move away from this tactic he really started to stick out.

So what is the good run of Excalibur. That's a book I've never really bothered to explore. I tried a captain Britain trade but it didn't really grab me. I forgot what it's from
 
Yea. He was a great writer for his time but I always was annoyed at how his captions always would describe the same thing the art was explaining just fine. As writer style started to move away from this tactic he really started to stick out.

So what is the good run of Excalibur. That's a book I've never really bothered to explore. I tried a captain Britain trade but it didn't really grab me. I forgot what it's from

Not Excalibur but did you read Captain Britain and MI:13? That and the UXF story on Otherworld are my favorite Captain Britain things.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
There is always a fine line between the two. Sometimes I do a decent write up on something and gets ignored and other times it doesn't. If it was all the other way then the sense of community could be hampered. But I make an effort to read all posts in these threads every day and not just the latest page. So when I see good discussions that interest me I'll reply to them. I'm always an outlier on weds since I wait for digital discounts or MU but I still get a good sense of the books that came out without spoilers. But I'd say I've read more books overall then most around here so I don't show up except sales and retrospective like posts
Yeah, I mean, I'll always be an outsider as I exclusively read collections. I try to take part when there are generalized conversations or the retrospectives, but I'll also read current reactions since I pretty much accept it's a futile pursuit to avoid spoilers on my DC selections. And these conversations do still happen, intersected by long stretches that look more like chat logs.

Nice to have it all out in the open now
It's not personal.

I feel like the only way to keep everyone here is to posts walls of inane bullshit and masturbatory language talking about meaphors in comics and shit...and I doubt that's going to happen.

You may want to go to NYU and go to one of Snyder's lectures or read Morrison's book if that's the case, because all of us can't be scholars of the medium 24/7. Sometimes you just need to chip away at that tsundere.
I don't think that's what I'm suggesting. Just maybe the thread would be better served being a little more focused on comics rather than loosely-related-to-comics shenanigans. It doesn't mean not having some fun. There's a healthy balance to be found somewhere in there.
 
Yea. He was a great writer for his time but I always was annoyed at how his captions always would describe the same thing the art was explaining just fine. As writer style started to move away from this tactic he really started to stick out.

So what is the good run of Excalibur. That's a book I've never really bothered to explore. I tried a captain Britain trade but it didn't really grab me. I forgot what it's from

Read Paul Cornell's captain Britain and Mi13.

Also Alan Moore and Alan Davis captain Britain
 
Not Excalibur but did you read Captain Britain and MI:13? That and the UXF story on Otherworld are my favorite Captain Britain things.
Actually I just checked. It was a trade of captain Britain by Alan Moore and Alan Davis. I might need to look at it again. I remember buying it just because of the names who did it and went into captain Britain pretty cold. It wouldn't be the first time I liked something after a second read

Read Paul Cornell's captain Britain and Mi13.

Also Alan Moore and Alan Davis captain Britain
Added to my MU library. God I wish I could get a DC equivalent to this service. I'd never leave my reading chair pouring through all the old batman issues I'd love to read from the 70-80s
 
So what is the good run of Excalibur. That's a book I've never really bothered to explore. I tried a captain Britain trade but it didn't really grab me. I forgot what it's from

What I would personally recommend:

Excalibur #1-25, this is written by Claremont and mostly illustrated by Alan Davis. Its like a goofier, lighter version of the X-Men book he was doing, where he can use his cute characters Nightcrawler and Kitty Pryde(who didn't currently fit in with the darker, harder Silvestri X-men at the time) and his love of Marvel UK. Sadly, Claremont left after #25, leaving a lot of his sub-plots and plot threads hanging. Luckily, after many subpar issues by a bunch of different creators, Alan Davis came back to write and draw the book as of #42, and superbly handles all the storylines Claremont left hanging, like the Nightcrawler-Brian-Meggan love triangle, or the relationship between Kitty and Widget, and the Multiverse War, etc.

You could probably just stop reading there, cuz its a pretty happy, definitive ending, but if you still want more, Warren Ellis' run isn't too bad. You will have to put up with some 90s Pacheco artwork and Ellis basically writing himself into the book with Pete Wisdom so he can fuck Kitty Pryde.

The Claremont/Davis stuff should be available digitally, and I know you can buy them in trades. The Alan Davis stuff especially had a Visionaries line just for him, I believe.
 
Actually I just checked. It was a trade of captain Britain by Alan Moore and Alan Davis. I might need to look at it again. I remember buying it just because of the names who did it and went into captain Britain pretty cold. It wouldn't be the first time I liked something after a second read

Yeah give that one another spin for sure....Captain Britain and MI:13 is a very different book so I bet one of em will grab ya if not the other!

The Claremont/Davis stuff should be available digitally

Hop onto CMX and prepare to be dismayed. I wonder if it's in Unlimited...?
 
What I would personally recommend:

You could probably just stop reading there, cuz its a pretty happy, definitive ending, but if you still want more, Warren Ellis' run isn't too bad. You will have to put up with some 90s Pacheco artwork and Ellis basically writing himself into the book with Pete Wisdom so he can fuck Kitty Pryde.

I thought, from what I read, that Pete Wisdom was a John Constantine expy. That sounds even worse. Poor Kitty.
 
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