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[The Lamonster]

What kind of reputation are you guys earning these days?

Going pure crucible/vanguard or pimping a certain faction to double digits for the shaders?

 

[The Rain King]

Has anybody else experienced a massively increased sensitivity after holding the new sword? I was running into walls for twenty minutes after. It was like when holding the MIDA. Happened yesterday and today.

So dismantling an upgraded exotic gives one exotic shard.
Anyone know what dismantling an exotic fully upgraded with just XP (not resources) gives?
What about dismantling a maxed out exotic?

I saw a video a couple days ago on reddit of someone dismantling a partially upgraded (maybe 70%) icebreaker, and it gave him 2 exotic shards. Although I don't know if the game randomly gives you this in the same way that dismantling a rare chest piece could give you 1-3 armor parts.

I was also wondering about this.

 

[Coconut]

Have they fixed search for players on PS4 yet?

What kind of reputation are you guys earning these days?

Going pure crucible/vanguard or pimping a certain faction to double digits for the shaders?

I was all about future war cult and saw no reason to continue wearing their cloak after I hit level 5. So now it's all vanguard.

 

[Zakalwe]

I don't think I know what that means, it sounds almost like an effusive compliment. lol. a lot of Destiny's design tenets are lifted from traditional MMORPG raiding tropes.

I actually meant there's no telling what they're going to do next. They're incredibly inconsistent.

And there's plenty of traditional MMORPG solutions they've outright ignored while insisting on copying the most frustrating mechanics they can.

Ie: token systems for raids, some kind of trading, upgrade paths that don't feel like they're punishing those who've spent a lot of time and resources already, etc...

 

[LiK]

Yup. I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the case. I mean, it would guarantee some people to keep playing the game, atleast up until the 2nd dlc, in hopes for upgrading their favorite exotics. I know I have been waking up early Fridays in the hope that Heart of Praxic Fire is finally available..

But let's just see what DeeJ has to say before we continue ripping on Bungie, lol.

they better refund Exotic shards. kinda BS they allowed that and then we hear about this reset shit.

 

[scarletham]

Or you know, Bungie could of worded things in a way that could imply a certain thing but that was not what they intended. .sounds familiar?

Ha - fair enough!

 

[Hawkian]

Of course the details will make a difference but it should never exist in the first place, on any level. A second round of RNG/Bungie-dependence for weapons we already own and have maxed? How is any version of this system a good idea?

bungie dependence. lol. at this point the effort I've put into talking about this topic certainly outpaces my interest in it, and it looks like some aspects of the article are not accurate anyway. i'll respond to a few accusations but I apologize in advance for not completely rebutting every argument and retroactively for responding to you in the first place, that was my bad. your sentiments regarding any potential system like this are completely valid.

That is not "the alternative" because there are countless other options that would have been more reasonable than this. Many of these superior alternatives have already been described in the thread. Bungie could have done anything, they chose this.

i'll rephrase:
whatever method they end up putting in the game to allow us to upgrade exotics to the new power plateau, the alternative is not letting us do so, as is often the case in games with tiered progression.

Your post, responding to the article link, said "This all generally seems okay" so yes, it seemed like you thought it was all generally okay.

yes

Why are you defending it then? Its okay to say "That's a bad system, there are many better options."

I presented my idealized version of the game, it doesn't involve selecting a better option to replace the system in question, it completely eradicates all systems even remotely related to the current avenues of vertical progression in the game and relocates the feedback loop to an entirely different reward structure. I was "defending" it (except not really) because I understand why things like this are added to games.

My game wouldn't have been as successful.

Of course there are gear checks, all over the place. Not just the obvious white-green-blue-purple-yellow and light level progression, but DPS levels on legit Templar and Atheon before enrage, hard GKeepers was a big gear check for a lot of players who only cheesed the other phases, etc.

either misunderstanding or proving my point, both of the encounters with enrage timers can currently be completed without completely maxed weapons

What kind of reputation are you guys earning these days?

Going pure crucible/vanguard or pimping a certain faction to double digits for the shaders?

I still have yet to equip a faction class item. i should probably start doing that.

 

[Zakalwe]

they better refund Exotic shards. kinda BS they allowed that and then we hear about this reset shit.

Yeh. They should have given us the heads up.

Any weapon that's already upgraded with one should get one back when you reset it.

 

[CLBridges]

Standby for Blog update by DeeJ it appears there's been some misinformation being reported.
Reddit

Ahh, good. Odd that the article got published without someone from Bungie glancing over the content to keep what has happened over the course of a few pages and other forums from happening, but good lol.

 

[Orthogonal]

Anyone else think the Raid will have a sequence where all 6 members wield a Sword of Crota and have to fight through waves of enemies?

Would be awesome.

 

[The Lamonster]

What kind of reputation are you guys earning these days?

Going pure crucible/vanguard or pimping a certain faction to double digits for the shaders?

I am doing the latter. I need those awesome Dead Orbit and New Monarchy shaders.

Warlock - DO
Titan - NM

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I don't care about any of this nonsense. Just let my raid weapons be relevant. They're too good

 

[Zakalwe]

I was "defending" it (except not really) because I understand why things like this are added to games.

I understand why they might want to add grind, sure, but adding a system that actively punishes anyone who's already ground their arses off?

There's no justification for that at all.

I just hope the article doesn't have all the info.

 

[EL CUCO]

I don't care about any of this nonsense. Just let my raid weapons be relevant. They're too good

They will always be relevant

Spoiler

in the Vault of Glass

 

[darkwing]

I can accept going through the upgrade process again for the old exotics , but RNG upgrade? eeep

 

[Manp]

i bet they can come up with a more bullshit way of updating exotics if they try hard enough... come on Bungie, show us!

I can accept going through the upgrade process again for the old exotics , but RNG upgrade? eeep

that's what this game needs, more random!

 

[Sword Of Doom]

They will always be relevant

Spoiler

in the Vault of Glass

Nooooooooooooo!!!!

 

[gutterboy44]

The misinformation has to be about the exotic upgrading. The whole idea behind implementing a system to upgrade exotics was to keep the relevant/useful weapons pool (which is fairly tiny pre DLC) as deep as possible and not have everyone shift to 100% DLC gear as soon as it drops. Based on the GI article, there would be a huge incentive to say "fuck off" to all your vanilla exotics as it would be a much better use of your time and materials to just obtain and level the DLC exotics.

 

[Byron Bluth]

Brings up a good question, though. IF the upgrade reset is real, does it re-roll stats?

Probably not.

It would be a good compromise to having to re-level.

Regarding the misinformation, I would guess that if it was inaccurate, that it would be that the last 4 nodes or so would need to be re-leveled versus the whole thing.

Or they heard the pitchforks sharpening and are doing damage control.

 

[Shito]

The guy was there a month ago. The information can't be inaccurate. If it was, that's on Bungie to not let them run the article, not GI.

I work in the industry.
You wouldn't believe the number of false things journalists can tell on your games. And I don't blame them, you can't be perfect on every game ever, but yeah, those things happen. A lot.
Also, devs and publishers don't review articles before they are printed or published. Journalists don't have to make their work approved by them: you don't want something like that.

 

[Bizazedo]

Has anybody else experienced a massively increased sensitivity after holding the new sword? I was running into walls for twenty minutes after. It was like when holding the MIDA. Happened yesterday and today.

I was also wondering about this.

Yes. It was like the penalty for running and turning had been turned off, I was so agile. It was great.

 

[E92 M3]

Has anybody else experienced a massively increased sensitivity after holding the new sword? I was running into walls for twenty minutes after. It was like when holding the MIDA. Happened yesterday and today.

I was also wondering about this.

I had that happen yesterday and felt like my hunter was some kinda ninja. Thought the agility ability glitched.

In terms of hard crota: I think they will be balancing with information they get from normal and possibly adding some new elements.

 

[Zakalwe]

I can accept going through the upgrade process again for the old exotics , but RNG upgrade? eeep

It's not that we have to upgrade further. It's that it reads likes brand new vanilla Exotic can be upgraded to the new damage/defense value before any investment at all.

Which is a slap to anyone who's spent many hours already upgrading their exotics

 

[Liquidsnake]

If they fook us over, I don't know how much grinding I could take. I may be done.

 

[X-Frame]

Please Deej, come through and put this all to rest. I eagerly await the blog update.

 

[Mindlog]

And Bad Juju maxxed. Yes! This gun is really fun and going to be great against throngs of thralls. I'll be a walking orb dispenser. Still have three exotic shards left after upgrading the last few exotics I wanted to have ready.

Wait....
What?


:|

 

[Xamtheking]

What if the exotic process gives you a fresh, no XP 331 weapon, but it ALSO gives you back your Maxed 300 weapon?

 

[LiK]

If they fook us over, I don't know how much grinding I could take. I may be done.

yep, maybe i'll just play PVP after checking out new Raid. cuz resetting Exotics is kinda useless in normal PVP.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Has anybody else experienced a massively increased sensitivity after holding the new sword? I was running into walls for twenty minutes after. It was like when holding the MIDA. Happened yesterday and today.

I was also wondering about this.

Yes I thought my controller was broken.

 

[rNilla]

Has anybody else experienced a massively increased sensitivity after holding the new sword? I was running into walls for twenty minutes after. It was like when holding the MIDA. Happened yesterday and today.

Yes, I noticed this yesterday. I also experienced the same thing after holding the Relic and defeating Atheon on hard. I could sprint and look left/right just as fast as when I stand still. ADS also seemed the same.

 

[Hawkian]

I understand why they might want to add grind, sure, but adding a system that actively punishes anyone who's already ground their arses off?

There's no justification for that at all.

I just hope the article doesn't have all the info.

right, hopefully the author of the article misunderstood or was not explained the route for people with currently maxed exotics or something.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

And Bad Juju maxxed. Yes! This gun is really fun and going to be great against throngs of thralls. I'll be a walking orb dispenser. Still have three exotic shards left after upgrading the last few exotics I wanted to have ready.

Wait....
What?


:|

Lol exactly

 

[EmmaWatsonButt]

It would be a good compromise to having to re-level.

Regarding the misinformation, I would guess that if it was inaccurate, that it would be that the last 4 nodes or so would need to be re-leveled versus the whole thing.

Or they heard the pitchforks sharpening and are doing damage control.

The upgrade RNG (even if it's not technically RNG, point stands) better be one of the parts of the article that was deemed "misinformation." If not, I don't think any of my friends or even myself will pick up the DLC..Way too much of a grind

 

[darkwing]

And Bad Juju maxxed. Yes! This gun is really fun and going to be great against throngs of thralls. I'll be a walking orb dispenser. Still have three exotic shards left after upgrading the last few exotics I wanted to have ready.

Wait....
What?


:|

lol welcome to my world

Bad Juju rules btw

 

[ComputerMKII]

The new info about The Dark Below makes all the new mechanics sound too complicated.

 

[darkwing]

The new info about The Dark Below makes all the new mechanics sound too complicated.

eh don't worry, it just means more ways to cheese >

 

[Nodnol]

Ok what have I missed?

 

[Darryl M R]

Is Eris a Hunter or Warlock?

 

[E92 M3]

All I know is that Tuesdays will be even more "stressful" now lol.

 

[Strider]

Ok what have I missed?

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

According to the article to upgrade your exotics in TDB you must reset them entirely and level them up all over again.

Deej has made a comment on Reddit saying the article has mininformation and we're waiting to see what he says.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I guess if the whole RNG/Xur being needed for upgrading weapons like ice breaker and gjallarhorn is true then that's one way for Bungie to control those game breaking weapons and keep them in check

 

[Flying Toaster]

Is Eris a Hunter or Warlock?

Eris is a new class...

Bad Ass Mother F____ (Hunter/Warlock) combination.

 

[The Lamonster]

Is Eris a Hunter or Warlock?

She's a Moonchild.

 

[Ambitious]

I'm out. Bye, everyone.

You serious? Xur selection might not be RNG, but that makes it even worse. Nobody is gonna enjoy waiting weeks for Xur to stock his/her favorite exotic for upgrade. The fact that it's Bungie's choice is gonna be really infuriating for people.

I'm fine with it costing glimmer and exotic shards to upgrade. Hell require some xp too, make it so more damage nodes appear and you gotta fill those up, that's fine. But don't limit what and or when people can upgrade their favorite weapon.

Edit: Lol incoming "Deej clarification". I'm sure it will come in a timely and promised fashion as usual.

You're going to need another guy for the Friday raid.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

She's a Moonchild.

Wtf is the speaker then? He looks like a warlock to me

 

[Definity]

@deej_BNG Game Informer got it straight. Player reactions to some of the information is what is wrong.

https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/540227884636315648

???

EDIT:
Beaten

 

[Liquidsnake]

Im going to stop posting for a little while, because I am legit getting upset. So it may all be for nothing.

 

[E92 M3]

I wish Deej posted here more often. Would be nice.

https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/540227884636315648

???

EDIT:
Beaten

lolwut?

 

[IXIKelsonIXI]

C'mon, Deej.....C'mon Deej...

 

[LiK]

I'm out. Bye, everyone.



You're going to need another guy for the Friday raid.

So basically we should calm down about it? Maybe Deej can grind my shit for me.