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[EmmaWatsonButt]

It isn't as bad as I thought at first (instead of a couple of exotics being available to upgrade, there are 12 of them), but it does go back to being incredibly grindy. Eh..

 

[Ourobolus]

I see - so the misinformation was that it's RNG which items you can upgrade? It looks like you can upgrade all items whenever Xur is around.

Doesn't look like that to me. "Selection of Exotics" is what it says.

 

[CLBridges]

I already bought the DLC yesterday and even with some missteps by Bungie, will continue playing this game cause it's a blast. But, this day has been very entertaining to say the least and on top of it all that tweet that someone posted from Deej lol.

Edit: I see the details now...the grind, the glimmer, the rng...still playing

 

[Daemul]

 

[IXIKelsonIXI]

Oops! For new page.

Each week, Xûr will possess a selection of upgrades for existing Exotics in his inventory

Wait, that can't be right...can it? Because not all exotics are in his inventory (exotic bounty items?)

 

[HawksWinStanley]

So let's say I finally do get an exotic I'm waiting for, but I don't get it til the week after Xur sells the upgrade for it.

Am I just stuck for weeks/months/years with a gimped version of it then until he sells the upgrade for it again?

 

[Frenden]

This is super fucked. I have no progress I can make until the DLC hits now. Why sink XP into weapons and armor until then?

 

[scarletham]

Doesn't look like that to me. "Selection of Exotics" is what it says.

Yeah, just looks like the selection is a lot bigger than what he's selling, thankfully.

 

[xplicitone]

A whole lot of clustermadness after such an overall great patch. Now I will say 10 steps forward and 20 steps back.

I will definitely NOT grind out weapons again. I've been having a blast doing nothing but raiding with my maxed weapons the past few weeks (and occasional weekly/nightfall). Such a bad decision. They should just have more upgrade bubbles if you own the expac. I will enjoy the new DLC/raid but no way in heck will i RE-grind weapons. I'll just complete bounties when they apply to weeklies/raids and special events like IB. I guess Hard Mode isn't until EOJ 2015 anyways.

It takes so long as is to get a weapon maxed. I'm working currently on Thorn, The Truth, Invective, Bad Juju and Red Death (different characters instead of passing these back and forth). So dumb.

I'm hoping Xur just sells the upgrade and you don't regrind. Makes a heck of a lot more sense and I'll be OK with that.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

So wait if you buy the upgrade you don't have to regrind?

 

[Strider]

This is super fucked. I have no progress I can make until the DLC hits now. Why sink XP into weapons and armor until then?

Then you'll do it again for the second expansion...

 

[LiK]

I think i'm done after checking out the new Raid and PVP maps and Strikes. They don't even give you the new HM Primary drops until January.

Gonna play Dragon Age instead. Thanks Bungie.

 

[figadapaura]

it's all fucked

 

[Flying Toaster]

I usually don't join lynch mobs but from what I am seeing and reading and interpreting it might honestly be time to hit up that backlog.

Please for the love of baby jesus I hope I am wrong.

 

[Johan Liebert]

Atleast Xur's selection is expanded, that is good. Was seriously worried it would be one armor/weapon upgrade per week.

 

[nowai]

Wait, that can't be right...can it? Because not all exotics are in his inventory (exotic bounty items?)

RIP Hawkymoons and Monte Carlo.

 

[HighOnPCP]

In that picture Xur has 12 items that you can upgrade..ok I am all calm again I thoguht it'd be 1 or 2 every week that would've been a reason to quit not even joking why put in SO much work (I maxed out almost all of my weapons by now) and then do it all over BUT only if they feel like having the exact weapon/gear you need? ok I think I'm good again

Alos he's selling Dragon's Breath in that picture. I thought he wouldn't have the new exotics for sale since non DLC buyers won't be able to buy them?
Also no more Engram -.-

 

[Shito]

Ok. So, yeah, exotics and all that.
But what about those commendations? I don't see the purpose or the need for them. I hope we'll be guaranted one by package, because if not, oh boy... ^^

 

[Heel]

.

You know you done fucked up, right?

 

[Sword Of Doom]

What im getting is you can either get the exotic shard and reset progression or buy something for your specific weapon and not have to reset progression.

 

[hEist]

there goes my excitement.

 

[IXIKelsonIXI]

From Reddit:

Game Informer reporting on this front is spot-on. There are some elements in the player response that amount to misinformation. That's a comment about the facts, rather than your visceral, emotional reactions to the information.

For example, you can upgrade more than one Exotic per week, assuming you have the coins and Xur is packing the gear you want to buff.

For another example, the new Legendaries are more powerful, and they will still crave your Ascendant materials for upgrades.

These new systems are completely elective. We're allowing all players in the world of Destiny to level up, and not fall behind. You'll have new options to acquire better gear. If you choose to bring along your favorite exotic items along for the new ride, there will be options for you to do so.

This is our first bid to expand the world in which you play, and provide solutions to prevent people or items from becoming obsolete. Like you, I'll be shopping for new Faction gear (long live Dead Orbit). The evolution of our Guardians will always be a moving target.

Here is more information on the finer points: http://www.bungie.net/7_The-Dark-Below-Preview/en/News/News?aid=12442

As always, we're listening.

 

[Rollo Tomasi]

Also just saw Raid gear has its own materials?

 

[figadapaura]

RIP Hawkymoons and Monte Carlo.

;_;

 

[rNilla]

Atleast Xur's selection is expanded, that is good. Was seriously worried it would be one armor/weapon upgrade per week.

And in the example shown you'll only need 84000 Glimmer and 12 Exotic Shards to reset all those exotics!

 

[Darryl M R]

HOW WILL I LEVEL THE HAWKMOON I DO NOT OWN?

 

[Hawkian]

pretty weird, it mentions that whole "selection of exotics" business but the image shows a ton of selectable "equipped" ones. still no idea how that will work from the information presented.

maybe with enough complaining they will change the XP reset to be less punishing for maxed exotics.

seems nightfall and 28 weekly heroic are getting bumped to 30

 

[gutterboy44]

What garbage community management. Not only do we get told our reactions are wrong, but the previous info claims that all the Bungie devs play right along side us, feel our pain, hate the RNG, hate the grind. So what do they go and do? Implement a huge new grind, more RNG and then have the gall to tell us our frustrations are wrong.

 

[Mindlog]

On the bright side... I can take off the faction class items I've been using. They look neat, but I haven't been able to use the items I spent a lot of currency on.

Wait, do the factions offer commendation packs?

Nah there's no bright side. This faction financial fuckery is just getting silly. The MMO grind with none of the content just sucks. Defiance was a better MMO.

 

[zewone]

So let's say I finally do get an exotic I'm waiting for, but I don't get it til the week after Xur sells the upgrade for it.

Am I just stuck for weeks/months/years with a gimped version of it then until he sells the upgrade for it again?

That's correct.

 

[figadapaura]

Also just saw Raid gear has its own materials?

You thought your shards would be useful?

A. A ha. A ha ha ha. A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

 

[Scousefury]

Everyone take a step back and slow down

Is it good we can update our gear to new levels? Yes.

Did this have to be a feature in the game? No.

Therefore in order to use our old gear at new levels and forgo using the new gear they added, players have to jump through hoops.

This seems like a decent system, not perfect, but is it the first implementation of it.

Remember the whole point of a gear based game is that you replace your gear over and over, people need to stop getting attached to their gear, or in reverse stop thinking that gear should come easy.

 

[Stantron]

Of all the inept things you could say as a community manager.

 

[KoruptData]

pretty weird, it mentions that whole "selection of exotics" business but the image shows a ton of selectable "equipped" ones. still no idea how that will work from the information presented.

maybe with enough complaining they will change the XP reset to be less punishing for maxed exotics.

seems nightfall and 28 weekly heroic are getting bumped to 30

Wow, this will make the next Iron Banner tourney so interesting. Line in the sand, pick you favorite weapon and get it re-leveled up.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

Here:

Thanks!

 

[Hawkian]

Alos he's selling Dragon's Breath in that picture. I thought he wouldn't have the new exotics for sale since non DLC buyers won't be able to buy them?

good point

 

[nowai]

I see Bad Juju in there, so it looks like he will sell upgrades for bounty exotics. Still wonder about Playstation exclusives.

 

[Trakan]

"As always, we're listening."

"Comments have been closed."

 

[Johan Liebert]

And in the example shown you'll only need 84000 Glimmer and 12 Exotic Shards to reset all those exotics!

They should use this a chance to raise the Glimmer cap. Also add exotic shards as rewards for Nightfall and even the Vault of Glass. Would help keep VoG relevant.

 

[scarletham]

So let's say I finally do get an exotic I'm waiting for, but I don't get it til the week after Xur sells the upgrade for it.

Am I just stuck for weeks/months/years with a gimped version of it then until he sells the upgrade for it again?

That's correct.

Well, what if you get one of the new exotics? You won't have to turn that into Xur.

It sort of sounds like they're trying to promote the use of the new exotics over old ones? I don't even know anymore

 

[zewone]

pretty weird, it mentions that whole "selection of exotics" business but the image shows a ton of selectable "equipped" ones. still no idea how that will work from the information presented.

It says equipped because you can't purchase the upgraded version without it being equipped to your character. That's the games way of making sure it's okay to sell you the new version.

I mean, it's pretty obvious because you see Hunter, Titan, and Warlock gear. A person obviously can't have all of those equipped.

 

[Heel]

So let's say I finally do get an exotic I'm waiting for, but I don't get it til the week after Xur sells the upgrade for it.

Am I just stuck for weeks/months/years with a gimped version of it then until he sells the upgrade for it again?

Until the next expansion adds 2 more levels, and you have to do it again.

Ya'll see where this shit is going, right?

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I'm glad I have 180 strange coins. I feel for people who only have one character and can't afford all this nonsense.

 

[stb]

This gonna be 'spensive.

Also noticing on this screen the exotic engram seems to be gone.

 

[hydruxo]

Anyone else notice that exotic engrams are missing in this screen?

EDIT: damn barely beaten

 

[E92 M3]

So much grinding. Not super upset yet, but I hope the commendations are retroactive.

 

[EmmaWatsonButt]

WHY

What in the fuck. Why commendations? What's the point of that? -_-

 

[LiK]

They should use this a chance to raise the Glimmer cap. Also add exotic shards as rewards for Nightfall and even the Vault of Glass. Would help keep VoG relevant.

Considering how glimmer has become so much more demanding with upgrades, they definitely should've increased the cap.

 

[darkwing]

looking forward to reset my exotics again to 360

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

From Reddit:

Oh thank god he addressed that quickly. Because I was taking it as him saying our emotional reactions were somehow "wrong". Fucking twitter.