The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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There is not enough time this season to establish enough buildup for Eddie, IMO. He will be a villain, but I think he is more akin to Ollie's Slade/Deathstroke. Him and Iris need a falling out, he needs to fuck up somewhere and lose his job, etc before he snaps. I would rather see them spend an entire season building that up.

Speaking of time travel.... how can I zip into the future to see an entire season of Grodd as the main villain? I want that more than anything else.
 
- THR: 'The Flash' EP on Reverse-Flash Mystery and Upcoming
Supervillain Teamup
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The biggest thing is in episode 10 we have our first teamup between Captain Cold and Heat Wave. We have a Prison Break reunion with Dominic Purcell and Wentworth Miller.
There are a couple of big things happening in episode nine and while they come to a dramatic conclusion, these events are going to echo throughout the rest of the season. When we come back people are going to be excited.
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I haven't read Flashpoint (only wiki entries) but the show is starting to align itself with that storyline right?

Older flash going back in time to save his mother from getting killed, but in the process fucking up the whole timeline and creating a different future.
 
Well I guess we know he's not Metron or any other exotic time travelling character
but rather likely one of Thawne's descendents... which is disappointingly pedestrian
. But now I'm even more confused about his motivations.

I didn't notice that he was siphoning off his powers from the suit. Maybe he is someone else then...
 
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So do you guys think Wells is a descendant of Thawne or perhaps Hunter Zolomon?

He could be Hunter which when you think about it, lines up with Wells motives so far. He wants Flash to be the best Flash possible. Plus, Hunter Zolomon doesn't have super speed, he can instead manipulate time. That's why he's always been portrayed as being faster than the Flash, since really he's moving at normal speed while everyone else is slowed down.

I'm probably really wrong on this but maybe the show is going to have two Reverse-Flash's, Wells is Hunter who in turns creates the previous Reverse-Flash, Eddie Thawne. I know they met each other briefly in Flashpoint but maybe the show is going to expand on that.

Or like others have said, Wells is just a descendant of Eddie and that's why he didn't harm him? Maybe Wells is Eddie Thawne? I mean who knows with this show.
 
A couple of people have said that Wells might be trying to save his wife, but I don't think so. I think he's from the future and killed the real Wells and his wife and then moved to a new town where people didn't know him.

I think he's Eddie's descendant.
 
Like, can we give the writers some credit by not dragging out the whole "Does Iris know Barry is in love with her?!" subplot?

That shit caught me COMPLETELY off guard.
 
Maninthemirror said:
so who was yellow and who was red when barry was young?
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The yellow light is Barry, and he saves himself as a boy. The red is Reverse Flash.

Cisco's dialog at the end doesn't specify colors but because they refer to him as "The Man in the Yellow Suit" it can be confusing. I think even when you see a glimpse of the Reverse Flash when he was a boy the yellow light keeps moving, which would be consistent.
 
Watched it last night. Consider me whelmed. The emotional beats were all bad except Barry's dad. The fights with Reverse Flash were way too one-sided imo. And the stinger at the end was an awful way to reveal RF's identity.

Barry getting beat makes sense but to be utterly manhandled without really getting even one or two half decent shots in is excessive. What I don't like about the reveal is that it leaves way too much unexplained. RF beating up Wells when Wells is RF creates a paradox that should be detrimental to the timeline unless the rules are unique to the show and if they are, that should've been explained somehow. Not only using time travel but breaking the most widely accepted rules of time travel without giving a defined ruleset to explain it strikes me as incredibly sloppy.
 
Jest Chillin said:
Watched it last night. Consider me whelmed. The emotional beats were all bad except Barry's dad. The fights with Reverse Flash were way too one-sided imo. And the stinger at the end was an awful way to reveal RF's identity.

Barry getting beat makes sense but to be utterly manhandled without really getting even one or two half decent shots in is excessive. What I don't like about the reveal is that it leaves way too much unexplained. RF beating up Wells when Wells is RF creates a paradox that should be detrimental to the timeline unless the rules are unique to the show and if they are, that should've been explained somehow. Not only using time travel but breaking the most widely accepted rules of time travel without giving a defined ruleset to explain it strikes me as incredibly sloppy.
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I mean... Barry completely sucks at this point. He has no training whatsoever, has barely scratched the surface of his power and has kind of coasted on the advantage of his powers. That was kind of the point of his interaction with Oliver in the crossover.

I had no problem with him getting his ass handed to him.
 
Guys, Wells can't be the dude in the suit. They look nothing alike. The guy in the suit looks like a bodybuilder and Tom Cavanagh looks like, well, Tom Cavanagh.
 
Sheroking said:
I mean... Barry completely sucks at this point. He has no training whatsoever, has barely scratched the surface of his power and has kind of coasted on the advantage of his powers. That was kind of the point of his interaction with Oliver in the crossover.

I had no problem with him getting his ass handed to him.
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I get that but even with his inexperience, he couldn't get a couple punches in during either exchange? That kind of power gulf seems like something that would take multiple seasons to overcome... Seems excessive.


Ignatz Mouse said:
"widely accepted rules of time travel"?

Like what?
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The big one is that you can't interact with yourself or else you'll rip a hole in the space-time continuum. The smaller one would need to clarify whether time is predestined or can be changed. i.e. Is it all a closed loop or can changes be made to create a new timeline? And then does that eliminate the old timeline and everything/everyone from it?
 
The "can't interact with yourself" is hardly universal and pretty hokey to boot. The predestination paradox can be discussed in time. They've only just started revealing stuff.
 
Liked the episode, RF is a menacing villain. The scene with Barry and his dad was brilliant, loving all the scenes they have together.

I'm thinking all this time travel stuff is going to get too confusing for me though. Did Wells have superspeed all the time and just chose not to heal himself until the end or did he only get superspeed at the end?

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For a homeless guy he has some amazing fireproof clothing.
 
infi said:
Liked the episode, RF is a menacing villain. The scene with Barry and his dad was brilliant, loving all the scenes they have together.

I'm thinking all this time travel stuff is going to get too confusing for me though. Did Wells have superspeed all the time and just chose not to heal himself until the end or did he only get superspeed at the end?



For a homeless guy he has some amazing fireproof clothing.
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Just like how Barry's street clothes no longer catch fire from superspeed friction anymore
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
The "can't interact with yourself" is hardly universal and pretty hokey to boot. The predestination paradox can be discussed in time. They've only just started revealing stuff.
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I disagree that it's hokey as the idea that the exact same thing not being able to occupy the same space-time makes perfect sense. It's logical. They can ignore it all they want to, I just feel like it needs to be addressed. And they could have addressed it before the reveal since RF having Metahuman powers years before the accident that creates Metas should have made someone suggest time travel even if not really seriously.

Edit: And it is universal in that all time travel stories address it. It's an either or rule.
 
Jest Chillin said:
I disagree that it's hokey as the idea that the exact same thing not being able to occupy the same space-time makes perfect sense. It's logical. They can ignore it all they want to, I just feel like it needs to be addressed. And they could have addressed it before the reveal since RF having Metahuman powers years before the accident that creates Metas should have made someone suggest time travel even if not really seriously.

Edit: And it is universal in that all time travel stories address it. It's an either or rule.
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I can think of plenty of examples to the contrary. Plenty of classic Sci fi involves it. As far as I can tell, where that rule shows up, it's for the convenience of the author not wanted to get I to paradoxes.
 
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