The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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I was kind of disappointed that it turned out to be Wells. I was hoping that Wells would turn out to be Barry from the future who got sent back in time during a fight with Reverse Flash.
 
Jest Chillin said:
I disagree that it's hokey as the idea that the exact same thing not being able to occupy the same space-time makes perfect sense. It's logical. They can ignore it all they want to, I just feel like it needs to be addressed. And they could have addressed it before the reveal since RF having Metahuman powers years before the accident that creates Metas should have made someone suggest time travel even if not really seriously.

Edit: And it is universal in that all time travel stories address it. It's an either or rule.
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It's about the same matter existing and interacting at the same time. But the human body continuously replaces the matter that composes itself. So yeah the rule is hokey.

Besides the best time travel stories ignore that rule all together.
 
Still don't think Wells is RF. All the twist at the end proves is that Wells is building or has built a suit that replicates Barry' powers. . . It does not mean that Wells is the only one who can wear the suit in the future.

I'm really curious to see what Wells is really up to.
 
Frank the Great said:
Still don't think Wells is RF. All the twist at the end proves is that Wells is building or has built a suit that replicates Barry' powers. . . It does not mean that Wells is the only one who can wear the suit in the future.

I'm really curious to see what Wells is really up to.
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Wells seems to have a speedsters powers though. He healed fast and did the speedster voice all without wearing the RF suit. But I do think there's more to it than we've seen and there will be a few more twists still to come.
 
I'm trying to think if it is somehow possible that there is a "present day" Wells and then another Wells from the future who is Reverse Flash and has been doing all the standing up/stabbing people/future room episode stingers. But I think the one episode where he went to that room a few times to check stuff makes that not really make sense.

Basically I really want there to be some way for him to stick around on the hero side, because I think his presence brings a lot to show.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
I can think of plenty of examples to the contrary. Plenty of classic Sci fi involves it. As far as I can tell, where that rule shows up, it's for the convenience of the author not wanted to get I to paradoxes.
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Not having paradoxes is a good thing. And I can't think of many stories where it's not addressed at all, even if only to say that it doesn't apply.

neoanarch said:
Besides the best time travel stories ignore that rule all together.
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Opinions and all that. My point isn't that the rule should apply here. It's that it should be addressed rather than ignored.
 
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New abandon thread gif?
 
I wonder what Mercury Labs will do when they realize Star Labs "lost" the tachyon device? Are those two organizations setup as enemies in the comics?
 
Jest Chillin said:
Not having paradoxes is a good thing. And I can't think of many stories where it's not addressed at all, even if only to say that it doesn't apply.



Opinions and all that. My point isn't that the rule should apply here. It's that it should be addressed rather than ignored.
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Even so, the story isn't over. I think it's a dumb thing to complain about.
 
Has Flash ever gone forward in time in the comics? It occurred to me watching this episode that maybe they didn't drop hints about Baby Arrow last week because he's going to be in that show, but because at some point we are going to see Barry in the future fighting alongside Arrow Gen 2.
 
Jest Chillin said:
You're welcome to think however you like but heavily utilizing time travel before relating a rule set screams sloppy. Like they're more concerned with twists and stingers than they are of plot consistency.
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But they're not utilizing it heavily. All we've seen is a newspaper from future.

Sure, we know what's going on because of the comics, but they can't exactly build show assuming general audience does. If they don't do any explanations when the time travel actually gets revelaed...then and only then it will be a problem
 
Ghost said:
Has Flash ever gone forward in time in the comics?
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Yes. Frequently, in fact. The last year or so of Barry's adventures prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths involved Barry being put on trial for murder in the future...it was complicated.

Especially in the comics, Flash is a Science Hero though. Capital S, Capital H. That means time travel, other dimensions, fighting aliens, weird transformations, enemies with bizarre powers. The Flash goes from B-tier fast guy to A-tier godlike because of his ability to apply (occasionally incorrect for our world) scientific knowledge to his use of his powers in battles to do things that simply should not be possible with his very simple power set. It allows him to punch well above his weight class in a very Spider-Man like way.
 
Jorok Goldblade said:
So I'm assuming since Iris seems to be an only child, if Wally is ever introduced he'll be Joe's nephew instead of Iris's?
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That would be logical, should they ever go that route. Somehow, I think we might be more likely to meet Impulse rather than Kid Flash tho. I mean, they're already doing time travel shenanigans. Impulse has greater melodrama potential for Barry also, given who Impulse is and what a head trip that would be, y'know, with his bio containing this line, "Bart was born in the 30th century to Meloni Thawne and Don Allen."

We all know how much CW loves family-based melodrama. How could they resist that low hanging fruit?
 
Ophelion said:
That would be logical, should they ever go that route. Somehow, I think we might be more likely to meet Impulse rather than Kid Flash tho. I mean, they're already doing time travel shenanigans. Impulse has greater melodrama potential for Barry also, given who Impulse is and what a head trip that would be, y'know, with his bio containing this line, "Bart was born in the 30th century to Meloni Thawne and Don Allen."

We all know how much CW loves family-based melodrama. How could they resist that low hanging fruit?
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It's also why I think Eddie is a name-changed version of Malcolm Thawne. Because you can't read that bio without seeing CW levels of soap.
 
Episode was bonkers.

Grant Gustin is a boss. I completely forgot he could sing as well. He's not bad at all. Pretty good actually.

He and Colton Haynes (Roy Harper/Arsenal) both have a cover of Run Away With Me on Youtube.

See yourselves which you like better.

Grant Gustin version
Colton Haynes version

I personally prefer Gustin's version, but both are pretty good.
 
Yeah I don't get the complaints either. Comics are inherently soap operaish anyway since their conception.
 
animlboogy said:
Thank you! It's like... christ, have any of the complainers actually picked up a comic book? The relationship drama on Flash is basically right out of a Spider-Man plot. This shit has been all over the biggest comics -- especially Spider-Man and X-Men -- since the sixties, and an element of some books even before that. It's a huge part of what made those books reach such diverse audiences and become the juggernaut IPs they are.
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And honestly, both Flash and Arrow keep romantic plot on small side. Arrow was different in S1, but there was a lot less romance drama in S2 and in S3 they also got over the whole Olicity pretty quickly. It needed to be adressed after two seasons of shipping and it has been. And since then it's just small blimps here and there.

Of course, not counting Cupid, because that's the kind of romance drama I think we can all get behind :D Heck..let Huntress back and do a love triangle with Cupid/Huntress/Olie, with psychotic chicks layin waste to Starling city. Only a monster would complain about that :D
 
AdrianWerner said:
But they're not utilizing it heavily. All we've seen is a newspaper from future.

Sure, we know what's going on because of the comics, but they can't exactly build show assuming general audience does. If they don't do any explanations when the time travel actually gets revelaed...then and only then it will be a problem
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Before last night's ep, it wasn't being used heavily but the reveal of Wells as RF throws time travel front and center as it seems like the only way to explain how he could be in two places at once.

I feel like the only reason why most people in this thread aren't left more confused by that moment is because we know what's gone on in the comics. That's why I feel like having that reveal without an explanation was poor. An average viewer with little to no knowledge of how time travel and alternate dimensions work in the comics won't understand. I know the goal was to leave people wondering but it seems like a bit too much left unsaid to me.
 
A Friend on Facebook posted these pics a couple months back. Said his buddy in Vancouver was tasked with creating the ring for the show, I completely forgot about it until last night when I say the Flash Ring.

Thought GAF would enjoy.

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Fezan said:
but Wells was outside during the force field with reverse flash inside
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My take is that the Reverse Flash on the inside was just doing that for show. He went up to the wall of the force field as much as he could - and at the same time Wells uses his super speed to make it look like the Reverse Flash grabbed him and took him inside. The force field didn't stop working, its just that he went inside of it - on purpose.

I think the Reverse Flash is Wells from the future - and having come back into the past - there are now two Reverse Flash'.

EDIT: On a slightly unrelated note. I hope Barry goes into the past on accident and ends up where Arrow is in his flashbacks. Like Arrow knew about Barry before he did. boosh.
 
Mighty Chin said:
A Friend on Facebook posted these pics a couple months back. Said his buddy in Vancouver was tasked with creating the ring for the show, I completely forgot about it until last night when I say the Flash Ring.

Thought GAF would enjoy.

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looks cool
 
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