Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
The Wii U has some good games, yes.
NoA: "there are more great games on Nintendo platforms than anywhere else!"
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Huggers
Member
It was a play on an old Sega advert (Sega does what Nintendont). Wasn't really deserving of anything
Not quite as viscerally
Maybe those games just aren't appealing to him/her? He/She may end up liking some of those games but generally speaking, impulse buying is not really something someone should do unless those games are dirt cheap.
Interceptor
Banned
Considering the thread we are posting in i even doubt he owns one.
Just here to make a snarky comment, throwing in a condescending hint that it only has mario and even that was only for little girls. How to be a troll 101.
Spieler Eins
Member
No, no. God forbid someone doesn't like the selection of 3 worthwhile games released in a year and already played multiplats and old games elsewhere.
There is not one exclusive (retail) game from Ms that has a user-score of 8.5 or higher on the 360.
No Halo, no GoW, no Fable, no Forza, ...
This ofc has nothing to do with fanboys down-voting everything on the "other" system ...
Sry, but using the user-score of MC is one of the most ridiculous and desperate pr moves i have ever seen.
Eheh, no. User score section of Metacritic proves to be nonsense too many times.
By user scores, Fez is 61, Velocity 2X is 69, Driveclub is 55, Forza Motosport 5 is 57, Towerfall is 68, Pix The Cat is 63 with deep analysis like
not bad, isn't it? Even a big guy like GTAV is 77 because of haters that give 0-1-2-3/10. These jumped to my eyes as they're beyond ridiculous but there are more.
Also, do we want to take numbers in consideration? PS4 big hits have between 1000 and 2000 user scores, One has an average of 500 and Wii U rarely reaches 1000 user scores. No needs to say why and where the childish haters are, right?
This ad is just a not-so-well packed bullshit. As stated more than once, also by myself, saying "Wii U is the best place to play this Holiday", as the competition learned to do, would've been better than a graph based on a direct comparison done with crazy restrictions just to look better. edit: not better for them obviously, just to me.
Interceptor
Banned
I am highly entertained by the fact that you are getting angry for Nintendo having the best games this year. ^^*
*Proven by Metacritic lol
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
Jesus fuck, how have you not been banned yet.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Let me break this down for you. When it comes to something like downvoting games on metacritic by fanboys or just generally disgruntled gamers, it is generally only applicable to Sony/Microsoft games because those people don't care about Nintendo. It's really all about Sony vs. Microsoft.
So if Nintendo games are mostly ignored by those reviewers who tank scores, how is it fair to include them as a criteria for judging game quality? I would hazard a guess that there are more people who score a game on Metacritic without playing the game or with severe bias than actually a somewhat reasonable review from people who have played it.
Quite frankly, I don't see any reason why user reviews should be accepted. They are COMPLETELY useless.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Wait, Mario 3D Land doesn't make the list?
both Driveclub and Forza asked for it. One with a pathetic launch (months) and the other with microtransactions/content kept out of the game. No??
Can someone help me understand the mindset that gets so worked up about this?
MC isn't perfect, but they're using the closet thing we have to collective opinion. User and "professional."
Collective opinion is just that. Collective. You can have a different one. It's okay.
Nintendo's job is to try to sell more games. Certainly they realize they have less third party support. Certainly they realize this means less diversity. So they're doing what they always do.
Focusing on "quality" as best they can. It might mean something different for you. And that's okay. But the best indicator of average quality we have is MC and that's what they've used.
If you personally don't like Nintendo-style games. Great. But a fair amount of people do. And as it turns out the Nintendo systems of this generation have a wide variety of Nintendo-style games that are rated highly.
There's nothing in this ad that's remotely sophisticated or trying to mislead people. It's pretty straight forward. I'm so confused by the response here.
The level of indignation is similar if not more than Ubi using bullshots or the MCC PR spin after.
Those were outright lies. This is, as best, a spin/lens on a Verifiable truth.
In short, Neogaf. It ain't that serious.
MC isn't perfect, but they're using the closet thing we have to collective opinion. User and "professional."
Collective opinion is just that. Collective. You can have a different one. It's okay.
Nintendo's job is to try to sell more games. Certainly they realize they have less third party support. Certainly they realize this means less diversity. So they're doing what they always do.
Focusing on "quality" as best they can. It might mean something different for you. And that's okay. But the best indicator of average quality we have is MC and that's what they've used.
If you personally don't like Nintendo-style games. Great. But a fair amount of people do. And as it turns out the Nintendo systems of this generation have a wide variety of Nintendo-style games that are rated highly.
There's nothing in this ad that's remotely sophisticated or trying to mislead people. It's pretty straight forward. I'm so confused by the response here.
The level of indignation is similar if not more than Ubi using bullshots or the MCC PR spin after.
Those were outright lies. This is, as best, a spin/lens on a Verifiable truth.
In short, Neogaf. It ain't that serious.
Gamefaqs generally has more user votes than Metacritic though and the user scores there don't get 0 bombed as much.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
The truth hurts
TheDarkTriforce
Banned
With this logic all Nintendo games would have a Metascore of 85+ and a User Score of 8.5
In my opinion they choosed User Score because they wanted the opinions from gamers who actually played the game once and not from gamers who don't But even if any of the comments like this one are true... we don't know for sure. I mean, it's not something that can be proved, right!? I'd like to know but, if it's only anecdotal, theres no reason for nintendo to not get "advantange" of user reviews...
Spieler Eins
Member
I am entertained by the fact, that the saltiest people in here are actually the accusers. So passive aggressive, lol. Well, not so much passive anymore, considering that we're at a point, in which people with the WiiU console are called lying ,,trolls'' for not sharing an opinion and calling out a comically dumb ad makes you a ,,poor soul'', while the WiiU enlightened are oh so witty. hu,
Final stadium: Hide behind emoticons for alleged superiority in the situation.
Because it makes the spinning in an advert easier? Obviously they'd make their own rules in a PR comparison pic, even though it's funny, how the Wii U despite that, still doesn't look very favorable in the image. 3DS is better (obviously), but splitting the Pokemon titles is also pretty amusing. I take it, the remakes are below 8,5?
PreyingShark
Member
User score's too low.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Rather not.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Why not add user reviews
"The pros and the Fans love it"
I always compare the two for movies, why not for games
"The pros and the Fans love it"
I always compare the two for movies, why not for games
Console warring is very much a real thing and I doubt there's an equivalent in the film industry.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Oh, this is a console war thing *Hugs all 5 current gen systems*
It most definitely is. Metacritic is full of 0/10 and 10/10 user reviews. Now, if this was an Amazon "verified purchase" thing, it wouldn't be so much of an issue. But user scores on Metacritic are a joke.
No one considers Wii U a rival system.
Watch out, the NDF is going to come attack your gaming tastes for not following their own.
Oh my god. "He doesn't like the same games I like he must be a troll and lying about owning a Wii U because no one who actually owns one would dislike those games". What a crock of shit.
StayGaming
Banned
The salt from the Nintendo haters is real
protomouse
Member
Yeah, the Norwegian army is quite ferocious, but as a Swede I'm more intimidated by their NATO alliance.
So down voting only happens on sony and Microsoft systems. Not nintendo systems. Empirical evidence please.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I'm actually pleased to see Nintendo becoming more combative in their marketing. Both MS and Sony really dropped the ball with games this year, with almost every hyped game turning out to be lacklustre.
nope, not native wii u games anyway
Not that I can call off the top of my head. And X is the only upcoming one. SMTxFE is a SRPG I think.
If X is anything like Xenoblade its more of an MMO-lite than a JRPG, hopefully that doesn't happen again though.
protomouse
Member
Pier Solar and the Great Architects is out on eShop, if you like a game that has preserved the mechanics of a 20 year old RPG. Looks gorgeous and they've made pretty good use of the Gamepad, so Wii U sounds like a prime platform to pick it up on.
Child of Light. Again, quite nifty with the Gamepad (but not really worth double-dipping on if you've already played it).
Not sure if I'm missing something here. Obviously there's the Wii and GameCube backwards compatibility, Virtual Console stuff, a lot of back-catalog that is. New Xenoblade next year looks pretty dope, though.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Of course, in previous generations those quality games have been mostly the third-party ones, not Nintendo's offerings. Hence why the Wii U failed. Not enough hardcore Nintendo fans in the world to replace the fans of third party who would buy Nintendo consoles for those games and then give the exclusive games a chance.
This ad is co-created by and preaching to the choir, which shrinks with each console generation. It's essentially whistling past the graveyard.
Rush2thestart
Member
The fact that you feel the need to downplay it says you do.
well even nintendo thinks they arent competing vs sony/ms
problem is sony/ms are easier to compete again compared to google/apple/next big thing
ScepticMatt
Member
I've discussed this earlier, but metacritic are subject to a lot of bias which they don't try to correct for, so I would take any user score with a huge grain of salt.
I like user scores, and regularly browse imdb for movie reviews, and look on neogaf for gaming opinions. I just think metacritic scores are of poor value.
Not nearly equally so, and it's not the only bias. Niche games with a loyal fanbase rarely get them. One reason Vita games also do so well in user scores.
Melchiah
Member
And apparently multiplatforms, that aren't available on Nintendo's system, are disqualified as well in order to artificially diminish the number of games the competitors have.
People, it's just an ad.
Where are you getting this from?
The criteria they used is specific and tailored to show nintendo in the best light possible, but where are they disqualifying multiplatforms? Those simply don't reach the threshold given by the ad
Really forgot that console warz is serious bussines
Where are you getting this from?
The criteria they used is specific and tailored to show nintendo in the best light possible, but where are they disqualifying multiplatforms? Those simply don't reach the threshold given by the ad
Aye, sad world we live in now isn't it? Sony/MS give AAA publishers essentially a blank schematic and ask them what they want, deliver it, and now are stuck with games that are released in poor state. Oh sure you can repair it, but then what's the incentive to take a chance on a game day one if they're delivered broken? pre-order bonuses and exclusive content? You're chopping up the game in order to appease the early jumpers then AND you'll still foster a 'wait for sale/complete' attitude. It's all a big clusterf**k IMO, but I can't really take a stance other than as a consumer...
Gotdatmoney
Member
I dunno, I wouldn't agree. But the WiiU has a lot of unique games at a high quality. But it's not like I expect NoA to not talk up their product.