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First 144Hz 1440p IPS g-sync display annouced by Acer
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Dalai Lamer
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Of course. Non-native resolution is always comparatively garbage.
Thanks, it's something I figured. But It's been so long I even had to lower my resolution. I think I'll stick with 1080p screens then for the forseeable future. I'm not in a hurry for higher res.
March? That Witcher 3 delay is looking tastier and tastier. Guess we'll see where the pricing hits on this one but if it's around or under $1000 then that's a buy for sure.
There's no way I'm going to get Witcher 3 running at Max/60FPS/4k, but perhaps 1440p will be doable, and if the monitor is GSYNC (Which I've been waiting to jump on-board) then even if my GPU(s) can't pull a stable FPS then it won't be as bad.
Now just have to hope Nvidia release either a new, more powerful Maxwell GPU by May or at the very least come out with some 6/8GB models of the 970/980.
There's no way I'm going to get Witcher 3 running at Max/60FPS/4k, but perhaps 1440p will be doable, and if the monitor is GSYNC (Which I've been waiting to jump on-board) then even if my GPU(s) can't pull a stable FPS then it won't be as bad.
Now just have to hope Nvidia release either a new, more powerful Maxwell GPU by May or at the very least come out with some 6/8GB models of the 970/980.
Iced_Eagle
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Oh lawd this sounds amazing. Price it <= $1k and have good reviews and I'm there. Hopefully it won't be consistently sold out like the Swift.
The benefits of Gsync aren't climbing in particular, you're just describing the benefits of being at a high framerate in general.
I still think you're trying to argue from the stance that I was saying Gsync wasn't useful for people gaming above 60fps. And I really wasn't. I want one quite badly and am looking forward to >60fps Gsync gaming. But how it actually works makes it more impactful at lower framerates. I'm not saying it miraculously makes 45fps feel like 100fps, but 45fps with and without Gsync is going to be a bigger difference than 100fps with and without Gsync, if you get what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure even Nvidia themselves have talked about this.
And this is the reason I wont be getting one for a while. I want the option of 1080p if I need it. Its naïve to think I'll be able to play everything at 1440p, good settings and a great framerate. Gsync can soften the blow some, but I know having the capabilities will just make me itch to buy more expensive components for my PC.
Calm it with the ridiculous statements, you've made it clear you've got insanely high standards.
1080p to 1440p will look fuzzier but it won't ruin the image or make it 'garbage'. If you can upscale at 1:1 pixels for high resolution panels (for example 1080p on a 4k monitor or a 720p on a 1440p monitor) that's preferable for a sharper image.
Dalai Lamer
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That's exactly what I said i nthe previous page myself:
I'll stick to 1080p at least until the average mid tier GPU won't be able to run most of the games around at on 1440@60+ fps (or even better: 100+ fps)
I don't see the point of buying a 1440p panel now just to be forced to stick to >60fps or, FAR WORSE, upscaling.
Nothing ridiculous about what I said. Thank you for your concern.
Oh, and yes, "fuzzier" is exactly what I would describe as "comparatively garbage".
veloxStrix
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I just want a 1080 with G-sync. :c
Your description is elitist preference.
I'm all for panels matching the available GPU: I'm annoyed at the new gaming laptops coming with unnecessary 3k panels or the retina iMac having a card not quite up to pushing 1440p in most games for the 1:1 upscale. But talking about upscaling - which as we learned with the whole 900p debacle, a bunch of consumers don't notice - like it's a mortal sin is ridiculous. Preferably to avoid it? Absolutely. Garbage image? No.
The monitor I use for fighting game meetups is actually 1152p and nobody has ever noticed the upscale versus all the native monitors. When I use it at home I usually drop the upscale but it's still barely an issue.
DarkoMaledictus
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Dalai Lamer
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If I actually had any "impossible high standard" I would be talking about 4K panels and quad-SLI GPU setups.
Instead I'm advocating fro sticking to 1080p and staying in the range manageable by a single mid tier GPU. Which reads as "being money-savy and reasonable" to me, if not even being a cheap ass by some people's standards.
Go to dismissively call elitist someone else who cares.
To me, yes, upscaling s the worst offence you can committing to image quality. There's hardly any option that I wouldn't be willing to drag to the lowest setting if it spared me the pain to watch at a monitor outputting an upscaled image.
But this isn't even about my opinion as it is about facts: a 1440p monitor outputting at 1080p would look far worse than a 1080p panel. Regardless of how much you can tolerate it.
The bolded is subjective. There is nothing factual about "far worse". It would certainly not look as good, but again as we've learned there's a whole lot of people who wouldn't be able to tell without a side-by-side.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
The IPS chassis/stand looks butt ugly. The TN panel has the zero thing happening but it isn't much better.
Honey Bunny
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Oh baby
I just have a pics. I was actually thinking of doing something like you mentioned in 2015. A lot of people have asked about it.
TFTcentral speculated that this might be an error.
No kidding. IPS goodness is all that the Swift is missing (though as TN panels go, the 8-bit one in the Swift isn't exceedingly terrible).
Says the man with plenty of GPU headroom!
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
If you don't play new AAA games on ultra at the monitor's native res or better.
Cizeta-Moroder
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Is it rare of these monitors to have a centered dot-by-dot mode for subnative signals? Black bars are hardly a problem compared to upscaling.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Dennis thinks 15fps is more than enough.
Iced_Eagle
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Well that would be a pretty massive error that is pretty unlikely. The only reason they're speculating this is that it supposedly deviates from the roadmap they have from Acer previously. They are following up with Acer, so we should know soon enough. Maybe even see it at CES next week?
However, TFTCentral did report in September of last year about the 1440Hz IPS panel was entering production: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/31.htm#144hz_ips
Not that I really know, but I can speculate that Acer decided to get into the high-end market after they saw how huge of a success the Asus ROG Swift has been, and it was pretty clear that what people wanted was an IPS panel. If they'll be first to market with this type of monitor, I imagine it will be a pretty big success if priced right.
Doesnt look like Im the only one. Tho there might be some light at the end of the pricing tunnel.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2863...and-g-sync-to-a-high-res-monitor-at-last.html
curiouscharles
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hrmmm, curious to see how if the IPS panel has any ghosting, and how the black / grey / white depth & uniformity are - if it's as good as my Dell [or better], with G-Sync? sold.
chaosblade
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My next monitor will hopefully be an ultrawide with g/freesync and 144hz... I go through monitors faster than GPUs for whatever reason though so I'm kind of hesitant to buy something that will cost more than a couple hundred dollars. Think I've had four kick the bucket over the last 6 years.
freshVeggie
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haha i am ready to feel miserable about my laptop
A day after that OLED.
Tech is has exciting ups n downs, always something better comes out
But an IPS being 1ms too, nice. Mine is 5ms and I thought that was good.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Not regretting my AOC 1080p G-sync purchase.
I'll upgrade when I can get either a much, much better 1080p one, or a 4k 144hz that is somewhat better image wise.
I'll upgrade when I can get either a much, much better 1080p one, or a 4k 144hz that is somewhat better image wise.
jim2point0
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I don't think anyone has the GPU headroom for a "5K" monitor right now.
Meh, my newish AOC 1440p 60 Hz PLS panel is manageable without Gsync. Won't swap it for anything short of an open-standard refresh rate sync technology or OLED. Besides, I don't associate with dark magic that can make IPS 144 Hz; must be some compromise there. Ugly monitor too. I'm done rationalizing my regretful decision.
Vulcano's assistant
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Finally, but can't put priorities on it until I have a cintiq first.
I too have the 1080p AOC G-Sync monitor, but I went for that over the ROG Swift primarily because I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to 1440p with the 3GB VRAM on my 780s. I'll upgrade my monitor again after my next GPU upgrades.
LiquidMetal14
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I just ordered a Yamakasi Catleap 1440p 120hz piece for 320. Gsync will have to wait.
ThoseDeafMutes
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omg lol ... what on earth could push that
Depends on the game, lol. I'm not intending to run an insane SLI setup or anything. But there are older and less demanding titles that could look pretty stunning at 4k and 90+ FPS. Since I keep monitors between PC upgrades, it would also be good to have something like that for the next card I grab.
I will also be running certain titles at 1080p on the 4k monitor. 4k is twice the resolution in each direction, so upscaling from 1080 won't look terrible like it does on a 1440p screen. This will allow me to run games that are too much for my card at 4k, as well as older games that have notoriously bad UI scaling like the Paradox titles where you can't fucking read anything at high resolutions.
Yeah, as I mentioned above the kinds of games I play sort of demand that I run at 1080p a lot of the time. And upscaling to 1440 is really sub-optimal for that.
nextgeneration
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Great news. Hopefully, this is the start of higher quality monitors to come.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I await those fine super sampled shots of System Shock 2 at 4k 144hz.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Haven't tested it but I could probably swing 4k Arkham Asylum at a solid framerate through DSR. Dat supersampling.
Allnamestakenlol
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Oh lawd! Day one on the ips.
Kind of wish it was ultrawide.
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