What is up with Europe's low age of consent for sex?

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Remember, the Puritans left Europe for America.

Why is it so young there and is it a case of 13 to 18 being socially acceptable but a 13 year old and a adult is not or is it just a free for all cause if so that's fucked

My grandmother married at 14 to a 20 year old man. They had 7 kids.

The laws were probably not updated for current social mores.
 
Their countries weren't founded by Puritans

edit: Beaten. But it's really a big factor. Same reason we had alcohol prohibition here
 
If it's okay by law and there is consent, what is there to WTF about?

Besides the gross age gap.

Exactly, the gross age gap. 14 is still a child dude. At least i see a 14 year old as a child.
 
So how does it work when there are different ages for different states? I'm in California where it's 18. If I visit a state where it's 16, and I hook up with a 16 year old, since I'm from Cali does that make what I did illegal when I come back to my own state?

Or is it like, it's illegal to BUY a ferret in California but if I buy one somewhere else and it happens to come home with me I'm ok cause the purchase didn't actually happen in my state?

Also how would that work with relationships? Let's say an 18 year old is dating a 16 year old in a state where that's legal. They move to California, what happens to their relationship? They have to stop having sex for two years?
 
It depends what state you are in:

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Shouldn't many of those states have asterisks? I mean there are several states that 16 is consensual within a certain range, but not across the board. At least as I understand it.
 
Also dont most people grow up, im 31 and even the thought of being in a room with 16 to say 20 years olds drives me crazy, there kids.. so yeah legally i could have sex with them but why the hell would i want to.
 
Japan is based on prefecture, not national. I'm not an expert, but I was stationed there and the base indoctrination made sure to cover this topic.
 
So how does it work when there are different ages for different states? I'm in California where it's 18. If I visit a state where it's 16, and I hook up with a 16 year old, since I'm from Cali does that make what I did illegal when I come back to my own state?

Or is it like, it's illegal to BUY a ferret in California but if I buy one somewhere else and it happens to come home with me I'm ok cause the purchase didn't actually happen in my state?

There are various laws regarding traveling to other states for sex.
 
As long as it is consensual.

Every damn time.

There is a defence GAF for everything.

As for UK16 -- I've been a 16y/o as most of you have been. You can consent at that age. It's not really any different past the age you are educated, and there is a reason why they don't hold back on sex ed until people are 18.

Telling teens not to have sex haha. It would be extremely unnatural.
 
Remember, the Puritans left Europe for America.



My grandmother married at 14 to a 20 year old man. They had 7 kids.

The laws were probably not updated for current social mores.

Different generation... My grandparents were much the same.. Just the way it was and with the wars I assume they were alot more mature than we were at 14...
 
Their countries weren't founded by Puritans

edit: Beaten. But it's really a big factor. Same reason we had alcohol prohibition here
Are you sure cause I think its the opposite.
Ultra religious groups like the amish were the ones marrying off their kids so young.

And marrying young was pretty much the norm before the 40s. Were the puritans not in power then?
 
Why is it so young there and is it a case of 13 to 18 being socially acceptable but a 13 year old and a adult is not or is it just a free for all cause if so that's fucked
I might be wrong, but I believe that the minimum age is 13 there, but all the prefectures have similar laws that prohibit having sex with someone under the age of 18, but with the exemption of like two people sincerely loving each other. (I guess parental approval determines that I guess)
 
Americans judge other countries even though they have fucked up stuff. News at 11.

It doesn't matter what subject is being judged, works for everything.

Like, 21 to legally drink? What the fuck, America.
 
The problem is they like to prosecute teens for being teens and sending each other nude pics. if to 15 year old want to send nudes to each other they should not face being put on the sex offenders list or charged with production of child porn.

The law should be there to protect them from actual predators not there peers...

I don't think anyone other that a genuine peado would complain about the existence of age of consent laws and statuary rape. They're there to protect the young from predatory older adults. But there needs to be common sense Romeo & Juliet laws when it's consensual sexual conduct between two similarly aged teens.
 
Americans judge other countries even though they have fucked up stuff. News at 11.

It doesn't matter what subject is being judged, works for everything.

Like, 21 to legally drink? What the fuck, America.

Well America once thought it was a good idea to prohibit alcohol entirely.

It didn't go so well.
 
I might be wrong, but I believe that the minimum age is 13 there, but all the prefectures have similar laws that prohibit having sex with someone under the age of 18, but with the exemption of like two people sincerely loving each other. (I guess parental approval determines that I guess)

And people don't go to 13 y/os and tell them "you're old enough for sex, wanna?"
 
I don't think anyone other that a genuine peado would complain about the existence of age of consent laws and statuary rape. They're there to protect the young from predatory older adults. But there needs to be common sense Romeo & Juliet laws when it's consensual sexual conduct between two similarly aged teens.

Yeah im talking common sense, Like this is not what the law is there for and just seems like a complete waste of time. How does this protect and help anybody.

Teens face felony charges for sexting

This would be laughed out of court here.
 
I know in Florida at least there's a "get out of jailbait free" provision where minors 16 and 17 can have sex with people up to age 24 legally, and then everything's fair game starting at 18.

I think it makes a little more sense than allowing for ludicrous age gaps, honestly. The argument that "sure, an age gap of 7-8 years might seem weird when one person is in high school and the other's an adult but it's totally normal as soon as they're both adults" seems like a really fallible way of trying to justify going after people way under your age range.
 
Let's not forget this is illegal as well.

Yeah and normal, healthy expressions of female sexuality are banned from being filmed and sold in the UK. I'd rather take the L on the stupid, fucking chocolate toys.

The "M" rating is 17+

Almost no games are rated AO

Not to mention that that is not a law being enforced but a voluntary, industry rating system that no company or organization is legally required to abide by. Unlike the UK's film ratings which are enforced and regulated by their government. Goddamn these threads always bring out the most ignorant mother fuckers I swear to God.
 
Shouldn't many of those states have asterisks? I mean there are several states that 16 is consensual within a certain range, but not across the board. At least as I understand it.
Yeah. I think that chart is showing the unrestricted age of consent. Like in Florida, a 16 or 17 year old can have sex with someone 23 or younger.
 
Age of consent was only like 14 in Canada until Harper came into power.

Japan is 13 according the law last time i checked.
Mmm kind of a misconception. While there is a set minimum on the federal level, prefectures have their own laws that can make it illegal to have sex with someone at such an age.
 
Japan is based on prefecture, not national. I'm not an expert, but I was stationed there and the base indoctrination made sure to cover this topic.

Yes is prefecture based, but the national law the consent is 13.
 
There is no way for anyone to win this thread. Those from places with higher ages of consent have internalized that, and anything lower will look wrong. Those with lower ages of consent will be fighting against the belief that they're pedophiles for being attracted to younger peo- well, really moreso women than men. Girls and boys at that age...

There is no victory in this. Walk away now, and forget that this thread existed.

EDIT: FFS, Blade
 
Age of Consent laws are fucking ludicrous in America, because it's basically "You can consent at this age under X, Y, Z" conditions.

No.

Fuck that.

If you're going to have an age of consent be 15, for example, then bam, that's the age of consent, period, no strings or conditions.

I actually think its smart. It prevents 50 years olds from legally fucking 16 year olds. It allows 16 year olds to have sex but with those closer to their age. I don't see why that's a problem?

Someone who is significantly older can have more of a psychological and emotional hold over someone that young, which is why the conditions can help.
 
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the average age Americans lose their virginities (defined here as vaginal sexual intercourse) is 17.1 for both men and women.

There's a lot of under 18 year olds having sex in the US it seems. Criminals!
 
I actually think its smart. It prevents 50 years olds from legally fucking 16 year olds. It allows 16 year olds to have sex but with those closer to their age. I don't see why that's a problem?

Someone who is significantly older can have more of a psychological and emotional hold over someone that young, which is why the conditions can help.

Yeah thats what i was trying to get at before, that makes sense.

What i dont understand as a non us citizen is why two 15 year olds can be treated as sex offenders for having sex in the states..
 
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