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[Japanmanx3]

So after the "Does KH need to be rebooted" thread I had a thought about the teased KH DDD remix. SE is in quite the HD mood as of late with their porting and remaking and whatnot. Why not DDD on PS4? That only makes sense does it not? To the same quality as Type-0 and maybe even a demo campaign for KH3 also. And with them bringing the FFX/X-2 HD Ver. to PS4 it makes sense to bring over the KH1.5/2.5 Remixes over as well. This makes too much sense to me so it probably won't happen but just a thought. It'll definitely pad out the everlasting wait for KH3.

 

[Reveirg]

It's most likely coming. I can definitely see 1.5 and 2.5 coming to PS4, too. They'll want all of them playable on the same platform as KH3 to make sure players can be up-to-date.

 

[Philippo]

I think they'll add it for the 1.5+2.5 PS4/XBO Collection.

 

[Bousf]

If they want to optimize sales for KH3, 1.5 and 2.5 have to come out on the PS4 and the Xbox One, I totally see that happening. If DDD HD came out, it would be on current gen consoles, it would be nice to call it Kingdom Hearts HD 2.9 ReMIX and bundle DDD HD with KH X (Chi) and maybe a sort of prologue to KH3, but that would be a dream come true xD

 

[Tidus_Great]

They just need to do an Ultimate KH pack on ps4 for 200 bucks

includes limited edition kingdom hearts 3 as well DDD, KH1.5 and 2.5,

 

[FSLink]

KH3 Final Mix + KH3D: FM bonus disk a year after KH3 release. And it'll be Japan only.

 

[Japanmanx3]

KH3 Final Mix + KH3D: FM bonus disk a year after KH3 release. And it'll be Japan only.

I'd have no words.

 

[Hyunashi]

KH3 Final Mix + KH3D: FM bonus disk a year after KH3 release. And it'll be Japan only.

Id probably sell my soul to get my hand on a copy.

 

[Oregano]

KH DDD needs more than a new coat of paint to be worth $60. It needs a lot more content.

 

[raven777]

I am not sure KH3 demo will be ready this year....

I wouldn't mind DDD on PS4 but I don't want them to force me to buy 1.5 and 2.5 again.

 

[Japanmanx3]

KH DDD needs more than a new coat of paint to be worth $60. It needs a lot more content.

DDD Final Mix maybe?

 

[orthodoxy1095]

It's coming. It's be just like Type-0. $60 with a time-limited demo of KH3.

 

[Oregano]

DDD Final Mix maybe?

Heh it would probably have to be the most expanded Final Mix yet.

 

[mjontrix]

DDD Final Mix maybe?

DDD: dREam MIX+++ or something along the lines will happen. The real Question is whether it'll look better than the pcsx2 IR versions of kh2. There's no excuse for it not to be better and in 60fps, 1080p. Or go nuts and go 4K/30fps and push sony tvs with 4K at the same time with playstation now integrated as well. Whatever it takes to sell tvs and move consoles in Japan



This with kh 1.5 + 2.5 should come out Christmas (let's call it KH chronicles), then kh3 next year. Ff15 should be september or there about.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

3D Final Mix for PS4/XB1 with a KHIII demo sounds about right.

 

[stryke]

Oh I honestly hadn't thought of this....fuck.

 

[Hystzen]

Well honestly would avoid DDD due to it fucking up plot with bullshit and shit gameplay

 

[Rosur]

This with kh 1.5 + 2.5 should come out Christmas (let's call it KH chronicles), then kh3 next year. Ff15 should be september or there about.

Those dates I would like to see though can see FF15 pushed to October/ November.

 

[Armigr]

I haven't had the chance to buy 2.5HD yet and I don't have my PS3 at home currently, so I would absolutely love a 1.5HD + 2.5HD bundle on PS4. I also have a lot of trouble playing action games on the 3DS because of the thumbstick, so I would appreciate (H)DDD just as much.

Especially if it came with a Kingdom Hearts 3 demo.

 

[SykoTech]

Depends on how far they want to fashion it after Type-0 HD to me.

It would be terrible having to pay $60 just for DDD when the previous collections were $40 for multiple games. And they can't fall back on the "But it was never released in the West before!" excuse this time. KHIII demo or not, there's no way I'm paying that much for one game. Especially when the consensus is that it's not as good as previous games in the franchise.

Now if they were to bring all the previous games over to the PS4 and make it so each game can be purchased individually for an appropriate price...that would be awesome.

 

[Sandfox]

KH3 Final Mix + KH3D: FM bonus disk a year after KH3 release. And it'll be Japan only.

It would be cool if SE did that again, but they would probably prefer to charge $60 these days.

If they want to optimize sales for KH3, 1.5 and 2.5 have to come out on the PS4 and the Xbox One, I totally see that happening. If DDD HD came out, it would be on current gen consoles, it would be nice to call it Kingdom Hearts HD 2.9 ReMIX and bundle DDD HD with KH X (Chi) and maybe a sort of prologue to KH3, but that would be a dream come true xD

FF15 will get the SE JRPG fans on board and more ports probably wouldn't convince all that many more people either way.

 

[DNAbro]

I heard that Kingdom Hearts chi had a card that was riku from DDD except it was a new render/model. So I guess it was the render from a DDD HD port.

 

[threelights]

I wonder if they'll also charge 60 bucks. Type-0 not only is a new game here, but it also has 90 or so hours of content. I don't think DDD has nearly that much, not even with a Final Mix version.

Either way, I'd buy it, I haven't played DDD yet and I kinda want to play KH3 more than FFXV, so I'd pay for it =P

 

[Synless]

I'm surprised DDD didn't get a final mix like the other games.

 

[Cedric]

Wouldn't DDD work best on WiiU with the dual/touch screen? They love to spread these games on every system imaginable, sounds way too convenient to have everything on PS4.

 

[Son Of D]

Kingdom Hearts Complete HD ReMIX 2.75 Compilationnica for PS4 and Xbox One. Comes with 1.5, 2.5 and exclusive Dream Drop Distance HD Final ReMIX.

That's my guess anyway.

Wouldn't DDD work best on WiiU with the dual/touch screen? They love to spread these games on every system imaginable, sounds way too convenient to have everything on PS4.

Part of the reason for the HD Remasters was to get all the series onto 1 platform (which makes me think a PS4 version of the PS3 remasters is very likely). If 1.5, 2.5 were on Wii U and 3 was also coming to Wii U then that would make sense. But I won't be surprised if this is PS4 exclusive despite Xbox One also getting KH3 (the 360 never got 1.5 and 2.5).

 

[Dark_castle]

DDD HD + KH3 demo, $50, people will pay for it.

 

[Kassu]

I wonder if they could actually fix KH3D.

- remove flowmotion
- remove pokemon bullshit
- remove character swap system
- add more content
- add BBS battle/ability system

Maybe with those changes it could actually be decent game.

 

[Wavebossa]

DDD HD + KH3 demo, $50, people will pay for it.

KH3 Demo alone $50

people will pay for it

 

[Japanmanx3]

KH3 Demo alone $50

people will pay for it

True. True.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I hope we get it, but it needs to be a Final Mix version with some changes, because the original game is really unpolished.

 

[ohlawd]

I'd double dip on KH 3D for HD Shiki and I fuckin' hate KH.

 

[djSyndrome]

Crisis Core first, please.

 

[GoldandBlue]

I wonder if they could actually fix KH3D.

- remove flowmotion
- remove pokemon bullshit
- remove character swap system
- add more content
- add BBS battle/ability system

Maybe with those changes it could actually be decent game.

Whaaat? I love the flowmotion stuff, made the gameplay much more fun imo.

 

[CrimsonFist]

I wonder if they could actually fix KH3D.

- remove flowmotion
- remove pokemon bullshit
- remove character swap system
- add more content
- add BBS battle/ability system

Maybe with those changes it could actually be decent game.

You probably could't get rid of flowmotion without changing up a lot of the level design. I could see it being rebalanced a bit though. I didn't think it was too bad anyway.

Dream Eaters are the big thing that I think need changing, they'd have to anyway because of how touchscreen dependant they are.

 

[RK128]

I can see KH DDD get a HD-up port this year (bundled with KH:Chi Story content and a KH3 demo); we got reports of n-Space working on a Action RPG for PS4/X1/PC despite never making games for them before (and since KH is an action RPG series....it might be safe to asume they are handling the KH3D Port), so them making the port seem reasonable.

It will just be made for consoles to buy time for KH3 and since so much of the KH Team is all hands on deck for the game (they need all the man-power they can get to get the game out for 2016), they will not have the time to make another HD remaster themselves.

The end result I think will be one of these:
-KH3D HD with very minor gameplay fixes (critical mode disabling the Flowmotion system, revamping the Reality Shift mechanic to work with a controller, minor reworking of the spirit system (so for example, the abilities you get aren't tied to them; they are tied to your level) bundled with KH Chi Story content and a KH3 demo (made by the KH team).
-KH Final Mix Collection: Come bundled with ALL the games (KH1.5 and 2.5 Remix + KH3D Final Mix with worlds from BbS (....they are sleeping worlds too :l?)) and a demo for KH3.
-KH3D HD Final Mix: A heavily re-done remaster of the 3DS game. The party system is reworked to be like a normal KH games (your party members are the characters from the worlds; for example, Shiki will be Riku's party member in Traverse Town's first visit and Niku is a party member for Sora for both visits), the combat system being based on the one in KH3 (it can be a 'preview' I guess :l), the spirit system being replaced by summons (Sora gets a spirit meter that builds up during combat, and when it is filled up, for Sora you get the Spirt Limits while Riku gets the Drive-Form esc form), two new words (one from BbS (one of the Princess worlds) and an entire new one (maybe the Jungle Book ? It was cut in Birth By Sleep, so it can come back as an extra world or something...), and refinements on the story (explain why the time travel shit happens and properly end the game with a prolog to KH3).

 

[Kassu]

Whaaat? I love the flowmotion stuff, made the gameplay much more fun imo.

I didn't like it at all. It made combat more about spamming flowmotion attacks than actual fighting which got boring before the first boss. It also didn't make me feel more mobile because KH2 and BBS did that better already.

You probably could't get rid of flowmotion without changing up a lot of the level design.

They should do that regardless, level design in KH3D wasn't good to begin with.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

I wonder if they could actually fix KH3D.

- remove flowmotion
- remove pokemon bullshit
- remove character swap system
- add more content
- add BBS battle/ability system

Maybe with those changes it could actually be decent game.

might as well make a new game.
isn't going to happen.

 

[sn00zer]

I dont think there is any doubt that 3D is coming at the very least as 3D:Final Mix on PS3

Wouldnt mind a KH collection on PS4/X1 in the year before KH3

 

[badcrumble]

I wonder if they could actually fix KH3D.

- remove flowmotion
- remove pokemon bullshit
- remove character swap system
- add more content
- add BBS battle/ability system

Maybe with those changes it could actually be decent game.

The FlowMotion and the pokemon bullshit and the Drop system aren't really fixable because they're tied to core structural issues surrounding the game.

However, I feel like it WOULD be possible to revamp the ability-learning system and get rid of all the touch/second screen stuff without actually cutting out anything of actual value. Fuck the Water Barrel minigame with a bandsaw.

 

[CrimsonFist]

The FlowMotion and the pokemon bullshit and the Drop system aren't really fixable because they're tied to core structural issues surrounding the game.

However, I feel like it WOULD be possible to revamp the ability-learning system and get rid of all the touch/second screen stuff without actually cutting out anything of actual value. Fuck the Water Barrel minigame with a bandsaw.

Drop is necessary, but it could be slightly reworked, possibly have the longer timer as the default and have it not drop during events like boss fights.

 

[BatDan]

It's probably going to happen.
2.5 HD Remix had cutscenes in the credits implying that it's coming.

I hope they fix the ability learning (why the fuck do they have to be attached to Dream Eaters? How is that supposed to make Sora & Riku Keyblade Masters?)
Also, more superbosses.

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

It's something I've mentioned before

Spoiler

jokingly.

 

[Japanmanx3]

I guess alot of people detested DDD lol. I liked it. Flowmotion was OP though. Made you feel like a God the whole game. Didn't really mind everything else...

 

[OneEyedKing]

None of the KH games will be released on PS4 or XBO until they sort out the legal issues with Utada Hikaru.

 

[Muzy72]

2015 - Kingdom Hearts I.5+II.5 for PS4
2016 - Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (comes with KH3 demo) for PS4/XBO
2017 - Kingdom Hearts III

 

[badcrumble]

I guess alot of people detested DDD lol. I liked it. Flowmotion was OP though. Made you feel like a God the whole game. Didn't really mind everything else...

FlowMotion is sort of overpowered on lower difficulties and dreadfully underpowered/dangerous (in combat) on higher difficulties. It's very badly balanced because you can't cancel out of it the way you can cancel out of other moves, so on Critical difficulty accidentally dashing into a wall is basically a death trap because it puts you in a mode where you're wildly vulnerable for way too long. It's not really good risk/reward game design in that case either, it's just all risk and very little reward.

Platforming wise, it's fine and enjoyable in Traverse Town, but some worlds were pretty clearly designed with chests that you were supposed to platform normally to even though jump-chaining breaks all of the platforming in the game. And that skyscraper in TWTNW that *expects* you to jump-chain up it is just kind of an insult.

 

[Kingsora]

Actually never played DDD, even though I love Kingdom Hearts. But I always hoped it coming to the big screen.

- But how many hours of gameplay does DDD offer?
- And how was the gameplay? Would it be much better with a controller.
- How did the game look on the 3DS screen? Better than BBS? Or not so good? Because Squenix did a pretty great job with porting BBS to consoles.
- Is there a lot to improve to make a decent console version?
- Was there a Final Mix version released like all the other Kingdom Hearts games?
- Did the game sell actually well? Good enough to consider a HD port for Square-Enix?

 

[Mesoian]

2015 - Kingdom Hearts I.5+I.5 for PS4
2016 - Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance (comes with KH3 demo) for PS4/XBO
2017 - Kingdom Hearts III

I could see this happening.

 

[falconxcrunner09]

2.5 had footage of some scenes in 3D. If history repeats itself, we will get 3D HD soon since 1.5 teased 2.5 in the credits.