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[Chubzdoomer]

I fear the day when everything we buy doesn't include essential parts just because "hey it's only $10 or less! Stop crying!"

I hate you people who are this kind of consumer.

It's just stupid as hell that we have to buy a separate charger at the retail store where we buy the 3ds. If they don't have it we'll have to order online and wait for it to ship. If we want the charger to be there when we have the handheld in hand, we'll have to order online however many days prior to the launch. Etc. Etc. This is all just extra hassle for the customers who keep Nintendo in business.

I know exactly how you feel. Sadly, this type of consumer dominates the industry today. It's the same type of consumer that's OK with the onslaught of pre-order bonuses and DLC, and doesn't mind paying full price for unfinished games or even paying monthly fees for rudimentary online features.

 

[bebop242]

Wait, S5 doesn't use micoUSB?
News to me since my S4 uses one. Thanks for the heads up.

I think it comes with the USB3.0 port like my note 3. It is backward compatible with USB2.0

That was eye opening for me as well.

That right. The USB port has a large hole that are divided into two. The old micro usb fits into one of those holes whereas the new one takes up both holes.

It does. Micro USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with micro USB 2.0.

Oh, so it comes with USB 3.0 then. I am ok with that since you can use USB 3.0 on any USB port.

USB 2.0 cables work with the S5....

Oh, that's just a microusb3.0

Sorry all. Didn't even know USB 3.0 was a thing. I'm old.

Hides in corner.....

 

[TheSlySoul]

I know exactly how you feel. Sadly, this type of consumer dominates the industry today. It's the same type of consumer that's OK with the onslaught of pre-order bonuses and DLC, and doesn't mind that they pay full price for unfinished games only to have to pay extra to get everything the developer purposely left out.

I would like to read a thread about people defending Horse Armor in Oblivion.

 

[Ratrat]

And even longer in Japan.

What!?

 

[cheesekao]

Sorry all. Didn't even know USB 3.0 was a thing. I'm old.

Hides in corner.....

Don't worry. My mother of all people was the one who told me about it. I was genuinely surprised.

 

[Monster Zero]

Why is Nintendo obligated to keep giving free chargers, if it was $220 with a charger people would still complain

 

[Chubzdoomer]

Why is Nintendo obligated to keep giving free chargers, if it was $220 with a charger people would still complain

No, because then it'd be like every other handheld system ever released and there'd be nothing to complain about.

Here's a question for you: Why is Nintendo not obligated to include a charger with the device so that those without chargers can actually use the damned thing without having to spend more money on the side? After all, turning on and using the device is a pretty important thing, wouldn't you say?

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I hope this shit backfires on Nintendo hard. I can't believe they even got Reggie to say it on camera like it wasn't a slimy business choice.

It didn't backfire in Australia, Japan or Europe. It probably won't in North America either.

Why is Nintendo obligated to keep giving free chargers, if it was $220 with a charger people would still complain

I can't even.

 

[tengiants]

I know exactly how you feel. Sadly, this type of consumer dominates the industry today. It's the same type of consumer that's OK with the onslaught of pre-order bonuses and DLC, and doesn't mind that they pay full price for unfinished games only to have to pay extra to get everything the developer purposely left out.

I honestly think Nintendo made a mistake not pricing this at $209.99 and still not bundling the adapter. It would have avoided the perception that they are not already adding value because the price is the same.

 

[Chaos17]

It's been like this forever in the EU. Pretty common for phones too.

Indeed.

 

[Derpyduck]

Why is Nintendo obligated to keep giving free chargers, if it was $220 with a charger people would still complain

You're asking why a company is obligated to provide a means of powering a device they're selling? That's what you're asking?

Indeed.

No, indeed it isn't, and he's wrong. Phones in Europe come with charging cables.

 

[Monster Zero]

[QwhTE=Chubzdoomer;147534755]No, because then it'd be like every other handheld system ever released and there'd be nothing to complain about.

Here's a question for you: Why is Nintendo not obligated to include a charger with the device so that those without chargers can actually use the damned thing without having to spend more money on the side? After all, turning on and using the device is a pretty important thing, wouldn't you say?[/QUOTE]

Are adapters sold out? Can you not buy one in the same place as the 3ds. whats the issue? That it's not in the same box? Nintendo said the price would have increased, you would have paid more regardless

 

[mocolostrocolos]

Pretty common for phones too.

Really?

My girlfriend and I have owned several smartphones over the past years and each had its own charger.

In fact, we have a lot of USB chargers.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Actually, no, parents are used to things not working out of the box and requiring additional power sources. Cause, you know, they buy toys for kids all the time. And a batteries can easily be more expensive than a 3DS charger. You are actually paying for what is in the box, your expectation to have everything you want in it is totes entitlement, so is your attitude as a consumer. That's okay, a lot of consumers feel super entitled. Most people who have ever worked retail know this. But, as I mentioned earlier, plenty of electronics do not necessarily come with everything you need to use it. So you are right, it isn't an American thing (even this situation is totally an american thing), it is a gamer thing. Or Nintendo-fan thing? To some, at least.

Also the charger does not power the device, the batteries do. The charger recharges the batteries, which are at least partially charged out of the box. I also bolded whatever riddle you left in hopes that you or someone else can decipher it.

Ahahahahaha.

 

[Derpyduck]

[QwhTE=Chubzdoomer;147534755]No, because then it'd be like every other handheld system ever released and there'd be nothing to complain about.

Here's a question for you: Why is Nintendo not obligated to include a charger with the device so that those without chargers can actually use the damned thing without having to spend more money on the side? After all, turning on and using the device is a pretty important thing, wouldn't you say?

Are adapters sold out? Can you not buy one in the same place as the 3ds. whats the issue? That it's not in the same box? Nintendo said the price would have increased, you would have paid more regardless[/QUOTE]

Nintendo says a lot of bullshit things. Ask Nintendo how much it would cost for them to mass produce a USB charging cable. I'll gladly pay 10 cents above that to have it included in the box. Here's a hint on how much that costs - it's under a dollar.

 

[Chubzdoomer]

No, because then it'd be like every other handheld system ever released and there'd be nothing to complain about.

Here's a question for you: Why is Nintendo not obligated to include a charger with the device so that those without chargers can actually use the damned thing without having to spend more money on the side? After all, turning on and using the device is a pretty important thing, wouldn't you say?

Are adapters sold out? Can you not buy one in the same place as the 3ds. whats the issue? That it's not in the same box? Nintendo said the price would have increased, you would have paid more regardless

The price isn't the problem--it's the fact that the device will be sold without THE VERY THING THAT CHARGES IT!

No matter how you spin it, it's a really boneheaded decision on behalf of Nintendo. As the AVGN would say, "What were they thinking!?"

 

[finalflame]

The people debating in favor of Nintendo in this thread are boggling my mind. Why should the n3DS come with a charger?

Because every other fucking electronic device with a rechargeable battery and a proprietary charging port does. That's why. If it used a standard micro or mini USB port, then maybe I'd get it. But it doesn't. It doesn't at all.

Yes, $9 isn't a lot more in the context of a $200 device. But Nintendo should have just put the fucking charger in the box. The 3DS XL sold with a charger for over two fucking years in North America at $199 and below. And no, the price of the newer hardware absolutely does not offset the new price differential. The 3DS uses fucking ancient hardware in every possible way, even with the upgrade. A 266mhz processor? 8mb of VRAM? 240p screen? Come on.

This is bullshit, and if you're arguing in favor of Nintendo or calling consumers "entitled" for demanding their $200 handheld with a proprietary charging port come with a charger included, then there's a good chance you are delusional.

That said, I think this shouldn't keep anyone who wants one from buying one. I pre-ordered my MM n3DS XL. I just so happen to already own a ALBW 3DS XL that I won't b selling/trading in. Still, this is bullshit.

 

[Monster Zero]

Are adapters sold out? Can you not buy one in the same place as the 3ds. whats the issulyingat it's not in the same box? Nintendo said the price would have increased, you would have paid more regardless

Nintendo says a lot of bullshit things. Ask Nintendo how much it would cost for them to mass produce a USB charging cable. I'll gladly pay 10 cents above that to have it included in the box. Here's a hint on how much that costs - it's under a dollar.

That's pretty messed Up, they've been giving away for free courtesy for so long and now that they give you purchasing options they're lying. And I don't need to hear manufacturing prices, I buy $200 Jordan's which cost $5 to make, business works like that

 

[protomouse]

Yeah, fuck off with that Nintendo. I expect the box to contain everything I need to use the device.

 

[TerryLee81]

Yeah what's really terrible is that they didn't change to micro usb. Sony did it with the vita.

 

[tengiants]

Yeah what's really terrible is that they didn't change to micro usb. Sony did it with the vita.

Shame the memory cards are proprietary and so damn expensive though.

 

[Khaos_Knight]

That's pretty messed Up, they've been giving away for free courtesy for so long and now that they give you purchasing options they're lying. And I don't need to hear manufacturing prices, I buy $200 Jordan's which cost $5 to make, business works like that

How the fuck were they free when they came in the package you had to pay for?

God bless Sony for giving me a free PS4 with my $380 purchase of a box with a controller, some cables and a copy of GTA5.

 

[Vuze]

Didn't know that NA got a charger with the XL models. I'm over that bullshit move by now as it's the second time they pull this off and I have two chargers but certainly not a smart move (image parents pick up the console in christmas hurry. The console is only half pre-charged too, won't last over the holidays)

 

[cheesekao]

That's pretty messed Up, they've been giving away for free courtesy for so long and now that they give you purchasing options they're lying. And I don't need to hear manufacturing prices, I buy $200 Jordan's which cost $5 to make, business works like that

Old 3ds XL RRP: $200 + charger
New 3ds XL RRP: $200 without charger

OPTIONS!

 

[finalflame]

How the fuck were they free when they came in the package you had to pay for?

I've come to the conclusion that the people in this thread fighting in favor of Nintendo have just lost it. I can't even believe the shit I am reading.

 

[Averon]

How the fuck were they free when they came in the package you had to pay for?

Are we at a point where consumers are slowly being conditioned to think critical components of a device for it to function are "luxuries" and complaining that it doesn't come in the box is "entitlement"?

 

[Derpyduck]

That's pretty messed Up, they've been giving away for free courtesy for so long and now that they give you purchasing options they're lying. And I don't need to hear manufacturing prices, I buy $200 Jordan's which cost $5 to make, business works like that

So providing the proprietary means with which to power a piece of electronics is a courtesy now? Or as another apologist said earlier today, a "perk".

 

[WrenchNinja]

Old 3ds XL RRP: $200 + charger
New 3ds XL RRP: $200 without charger

OPTIONS

But hey you get a nub and a new 3D screen and a faster processor that might impress someone with a cell phone from several years ago

 

[Monster Zero]

Old 3ds XL RRP: $200 + charger
New 3ds XL RRP: $200 without charger

OPTIONS!

Everything is the same price all the time, good to know

 

[tengiants]

Old 3ds XL RRP: $200 + charger
New 3ds XL RRP: $200 without charger, plus new 3d screen, plus new cpu and memory upg, plus amiibo support, plus you can play portable xenoblade on it.

OPTIONS

FTFY

Seems like a good deal to me.

 

[finalflame]

But hey you get a nub and a new 3D screen and a faster processor that might impress someone with a cell phone from several years ago

266mhz. 240p screen. 8mb of dedicated VRAM.

I am not even sure if this shit would have been impressive in 2007.

There is no way to justify "added hardware cost" for keeping the price the same and omitting the charger. No way.

 

[Sinfamy]

I've come to the conclusion that the people in this thread fighting in favor of Nintendo have just lost it. I can't even believe the shit I am reading.

Nintendo apologists are the worst.

480i? 240p? Its a style choice, I like it better.
No Ethernet port? Awesome, they must be saving me, the consumer money by having to buy an adapter, choices!

The list goes on and on.
Sure they make great games, but don't excuse everything they do because of it.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Everything is the same price all the time, good to know

Please stop. Please.

266mhz. 240p screen. 8mb of dedicated VRAM.

I am not even sure if this shit would have been impressive in 2007.

There is no way to justify "added hardware cost" for keeping the price the same and omitting the charger. No way.

Especially when elsewhere, the OG XL's didn't come with chargers. It has nothing to do with hardware costs. It's pure greed.

 

[TI82]

Nintendo apologists are the worst.

480i? 240p? Its a style choice, I like it better.
No Ethernet port? Awesome, they must be saving me, the consumer money by having to buy an adapter, choices!

The list goes on and on.
Sure they make great games, but don't excuse everything they do because of it.

Yep. Even the great games thing is mostly untrue.

 

[OraleeWey]

The fact of the matter is that they aren't including an AC adapter which without it makes the system as useful as a brick. How's one supposed to play the device when the battery is drained? In conclusion; Nintendo should have included the AC adapter. This is ridiculous.

 

[Corpekata]

Between this and the Namco DMCA of DSfix I'm now convinced there will be a defense for everything.

If I go to Target or Walmart or wherever am I going to find a New 3ds charger a year from now? I had to buy one recently and could only find a cheap knock off that is already on its' way out. It's not like with phones where there's a million universal options.

 

[tengiants]

The fact of the matter is that they aren't including an AC adapter which without it makes the system as useful as a brick. How's one supposed to play the device when the battery is drained? In conclusion; Nintendo should have included the AC adapter. This is ridiculous.

No they shouldn't have. I have 5 between my wife and I. I should be able to choose whether I want another one or not. It should be my right as a consumer.

 

[Derpyduck]

No they shouldn't have. I have 5 between my wife and I. I should be able to choose whether I want another one or not. It should be my right as a consumer.

You're right, you should have the choice. You can choose to take yours and throw it out the window. And someone else could choose to keep theirs and use it to charge their new handheld.

 

[finalflame]

No they shouldn't have. I have 5 between my wife and I. I should be able to choose whether I want another one or not. It should be my right as a consumer.

Nobody cares if you and your wife for some weird reason have 5 chargers. The system has a proprietary charging port and a rechargeable battery. Like every other even mildly decent fucking electronic device on the planet, it should come with the charger. So it can be useful out of the box for more than 3 hours.

Seriously, do you know who doesn't include proprietary chargers? Shitty knockoff Chinese LED flashlights you buy for $9 off eBay. This is how ridiculous this is. Name any other major electronic device with a proprietary charging port and a rechargeable battery that does not include the charger.

 

[WrenchNinja]

FTFY

Seems like a good deal to me.

Well yes, for someone who's busy deflecting using the failings of other companies to justify decisions from a company who's being criticized and has 5 additional spare chargers, I'm sure it sounds fantastic.

 

[Sinfamy]

You're right, you should have the choice. You can choose to take yours and throw it out the window. And someone else could choose to keep theirs and use it to charge their new handheld.

Ding ding ding ding.

Why should consoles come with controllers if you might have one already.

 

[Dalibor_San]

No they shouldn't have. I have 5 between my wife and I. I should be able to choose whether I want another one or not. It should be my right as a consumer.

I....what? I'm hoping your post is a joke even if I'm suckered into replying to this,if not however, well damn Brand loyalty will never cease to amaze me.

You really seem to lack the mental capacity to understand that yes choice is always great to a consumer, however in your version it isn't a choice it is merely pampering to what you deem right.(how about you throw away your 6th charger,while everyone else gets theirs with a new 3DS?)

 

[OraleeWey]

No they shouldn't have. I have 5 between my wife and I. I should be able to choose whether I want another one or not. It should be my right as a consumer.

You and your wife have 5. I may have 0. How does this solve my problem? Are you going to give me one and everyone else who doesn't have one?

 

[blame space]

this sure is a thread alright

 

[Monster Zero]

You and your wife have 5. I may have 0. How does this solve my problem? Are you going to give me one and everyone else who doesn't have one?

Your problem is solved very easily

 

[MegaMelon]

Being in Europe, I've been used to this no charger with 3ds thing for a while. It stil sucks but since people are gonna buy the new 3ds regardless it's not like it's going to change anytime soon.

 

[Chubzdoomer]

Your problem is solved very easily

But is it a problem that should have to be solved? That's the important question.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

So the next time I buy an iPhone I should be OK with it if it doesn't come with the proprietary charging cable?

I have owned almost every iPhone. If Apple removed the cable I wouldn't buy their next one. It's like them telling me fuck you for being a loyal customer.

I like how I wanted a 3DS for a while, I have copies of both Pokemon x & y since it came out. I won't be buying a 3DS ever. I hate their hardware practices.

 

[Gator86]

I've come to the conclusion that the people in this thread fighting in favor of Nintendo have just lost it. I can't even believe the shit I am reading.

Nintendo threads are always good for a laugh. It's astounding people are defending this, but these are probably the same people arguing the WiiU's lacking library as a positive because "quality > quantity."

 

[Derpyduck]

Your problem is solved very easily

Yep, by the company selling the product. Like every other company on the planet.

Being in Europe, I've been used to this no charger with 3ds thing for a while. It stil sucks but since people are gonna buy the new 3ds regardless it's not like it's going to change anytime soon.

Some people will. Some won't. Before today, Nintendo had two sales locked up. I was buying the XL, my daughter the regular. They lost my daughter's money when they chose not to bring the smaller 3DS over to the US. They lost my money for the XL when they chose to be dickheads rather than stick a 50 cent charging cable in the box.