A lot of devices don't include HDMI cables.
I've never seen a BD Player / Amp / TV / TiVo that had a proprietary power cable sold separately.
Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.
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I've never seen a BD Player / Amp / TV / TiVo that had a proprietary power cable sold separately.
I think his point is that said player is useless without an output cable. You can turn it on... but can't really use it.
You can't 'use' it without a blu-ray either, but you wouldn't expect one in the box.
It's not uncommon for the HDMI cable to be a separate purchase. It is uncommon for the power cable to be a separate purchase.
Ok. I understand you better now.
I respect that stance then.
I agree with that last statement but I have said "I hope they learn from this" many a time before.
jadedm17
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Some people don't respond to logic or reason and just like to complain.
There's probably a point to be made in over 14 million 3DS owners alone in NA yet half that worldwide of WiiU sales. That being said Nintendo is a business so if they saw a demand of people just wanting a console with nothing else they'd probably try and fill that too. I don't agree with their decision but it's far for a big deal.
Piston Hyundai
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2035: nintendo releases the latest revision of their latest handheld, given the future-proof name "the new version of the new nintendo handheld"
people are irate when they find that it not only lacks a power adapter, it also doesn't have any screen at all
nintendo's statement:
people are irate when they find that it not only lacks a power adapter, it also doesn't have any screen at all
nintendo's statement:
"it's totally better this way you guys, promise"
Didn't one of the 360 or ps3 upgrades totally do this?
Oddvintagechap
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I hate you.
Woo-Fu
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I don't understand the problem, then again I didn't understand it the last time somebody did this.
Just factor in the cost for the charger---if you need one---into your purchasing decision ffs.
I do get a kick out of people saying it is Nintendo being cheap. In any case Nintendo would be passing the cost onto the consumer.
Just factor in the cost for the charger---if you need one---into your purchasing decision ffs.
I do get a kick out of people saying it is Nintendo being cheap. In any case Nintendo would be passing the cost onto the consumer.
WordsintheWater
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People are actually defending this? haha
It's not a huge deal, but come on you mean to tell me the system would have cost more if it had a charger inside? How much do these things really cost for them to put in? Sure you could buy one yourself separately, but power cables have come standard in products here for a long time. I think it's just a stupid move that is gonna upset some people and I don't understand why they would want to do that when they wouldn't take a hit by including one.
It's not a huge deal, but come on you mean to tell me the system would have cost more if it had a charger inside? How much do these things really cost for them to put in? Sure you could buy one yourself separately, but power cables have come standard in products here for a long time. I think it's just a stupid move that is gonna upset some people and I don't understand why they would want to do that when they wouldn't take a hit by including one.
CanUKlehead
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Don't PlayStation consoles effectively use the same power cord? And considering HDMI, I can see a controller and the PS5 literally just being the only things in the box.
Unless it uses a DS4...DS5 sold separately
Unless it uses a DS4...DS5 sold separately
You say that, but it was actually a present from my mother and if she hadn't asked what HDMI was to the assistant in the shop she'd have not been told that she would need to buy the cable separately. So I honestly think both practises are just as bad.
This is a bit of a silly comparison, maybe if it had a proprietary HDMI port and the cable was sold with a positive margin for the company it might be similar. I am of the opinion it would be wise to keep comparisons in the realms of portable handheld entertainment devices, of which the new 3ds is needlessly an outlier in more than one aspect.
It's very disappointing at best.
NingenJanai
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Exactly, if you are not going to include an adaptor, use an standard connector instead of a propietary one.
This just looks like a Nintendo move to get more money by selling the AC adapter separatedly.
Starwolf_UK
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Oh no, a HDMI cable it s a shame the only ones you can get are made by Monster and cost $100...
But the basic Wii U in Europe didn't come with a Wii sensor bar. I seem to recall if you needed an official Wii sensor bar* your only official option outside of salvaging one of the £15 Wiis from crime converters was a buying a Wii Remote Plus and Nunchuck bundle (said bundle is now impossible to find unlike the Basic Wii U which is still sold in Europe).
*-And boy do you need official. Many third party ones have far weaker lights or terribly put together LED arrays (take a photo with a digital camera sometime)
All I can think is cameras didn't come with film and digital cameras stopped coming with SD cards years ago (and the cards it did come with then were like 16MB you can take one RAW image and prove it worked so pretty useless).
But the point is those things are fairly universal so it is expect you either have one or can get one very easily. When you look at the charger it can charge what 7 Nintendo handhelds? Which is fine if you're a Nintendo household. If you're not hope you can read the box I guess.
So looking it like that why has Nintendo included the Micro SD card then. As a consumer with several of those why not go the full mile with the cost cutting and just not include it?
Given how bad the screens on the 3DS are (the GBA ambassador game problems are the screens not the technique) I wouldn't mind.
Yeah, I've seen others say that it's pretty common for phones to not come with adapters in Europe, but I've literally never seen it happening and I'm from Norway.
Jesus Christ.
24 pages full of drama over a $5-charger.
Nintendo are worse than Hitler. Never buying a Nintendo console ever again.
Jesus Christ 24 Pages of arguing about whether or not your fine with Nintendo bending you over and having their way with you.Jesus Christ.
24 pages full of drama over a $5-charger.
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Hideous Snake
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What if my AC adapter broke Nintendo? I go buy an old 3DS/XL just for the adapter?
This is absurd!
This is absurd!
WrenchNinja
Member
Jesus Christ.
24 pages full of drama over a $5-charger.
it's actually $15 if you don't want to void the warranty with 3rd party ones.
Yeah I really don't understand this deflection from people, if it's so cheap why doesn't Nintendo include the charger? It Costs them nothing to mass produced this thing.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
How, by not giving you free chargers? Nintendo has given the consumer many options with this purchase and the biggest complaint is the AC adapter isn't free
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, reminds me plenty of some defending that Duck Dynasty actor's stupid comments.
Guess if you entertain people enough, you can do whatever dumb crap you want.
But you would see just as much backlash if Apple didn't include Lightning Cables in iPhone 6S citing cost reasons.
Yes I like my many choices of ugly glossy wine red or glossy black on a huge non-customizable system. If I hate gloss, then I can only buy the 2DS.
Oh well, next handheld will only be one color and no next console will exist. Might as well save costs since 2 colors is too much option.
Sad thing is my sarcasm still hold trues. White Wii U got phased out. OG 3DS as well.
WrenchNinja
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No, they actually haven't given many options. You buy the device alone. Or you buy the device and pay the mark up on a charger the device is required to function with.
And thats not even including the lack of a regular model which is pissing off another group of people.
But yeah, many options. Right.
Frankfurter
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I'd be totally fine with Nintendo not including the actual charger, if they'd include just the cable (/w USB on the other end). But not including anything is a stupid and cheap move, and I still think that they lose more on pissed customers (especially kids) that didn't read the note on the box, than they save on not including a ~50cent cable.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Mark up? The issue here is the perception of being scammed, if the console was $210 and had the charger, no one would bat an eyelash. I don't know why you mentioned the regular 3ds, it's not available in the US
The Atticus
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Haven't read through, but wasn't this already the case?
WrenchNinja
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Well yes if the console actually had the charger, people wouldnt be complaining. But the reality is that the handheld wouldn't be at $210, it would be at $200 because that is the price point that is easier for the consumer to swallow. The charger is not actually worth $10. Just simply pretending to yourself that the N3DS is really just $210 and leaving it up to perception is not going to work.
I mentioned the regular new 3DS because you brought up how Nintendo was giving many options to the consumer. There is literally just three options. Buy it, buy it and the charger, or don't buy it at all.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Yea, those are damn good options, you can enjoy the n3ds or vote with your wallet and pass, but I know complaining won't help. $200 is the easier price to swallow, did you think that they had to sacrifice the charger to hit that
If electronic manufactures are going down this path then standardized the power supply for all devices.
Jesus Christ.
24 pages full of drama over a $5-charger.
I hope nintendo starts cutting other things to pass the savings on to me! I don't need a stylus. I have plenty. Battery? I'll find one somewhere. Screen? I've had a DS before I can just pop the screen off my old one! No buttons, hey that's alright. I think I saw some buttons in my sock drawer earlier.
You do realise that what's included in the box with the console really doesn't matter right? If you need something that's not in the box to enjoy your system, total up how much everything is going to cost you, and if it's too expensive, don't buy it. It's really that simple.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Amazing. Feels like a new "japanese culture expert".
I wonder if a scientific study will ever be made on corporate apologists and what exact levels of negative actions from their idolised company it takes to begin breaking down their psychological attachment. Countless factors like from what early age the attachment began thus requiring more dramatic a shock to sever some of the dissonance. Ohhhhh, it all just makes you want to lock them in a nuclear bunker and go full Stanford on them!
TheSlySoul
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Would be interesting.
I like games. I buy consoles for games, not the company who make them. I will call out stupid stuff Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo do. E3 2006 Sony, E3 2008 Nintendo, and E3 2012 Microsoft are some of the funniest moments. Big corporations do not need apologists.
Also it is about business first always. Developers pretty much do what they want, not what you want. You are not getting Metroid or F-Zero unless they want to make it.
Although I like XSEED, they get a pass in my book.
I came to grips with reality a while ago. The only reason we are getting Star Fox is because Miyamoto got interested in reviving it. Sakurai got interested in reviving Kid Icarus.
Yeah I typically don't expect a product that works in the box so I guess you're right.
Oh, sorry, I didn't realise Nintendo are shipping broken 3DS's now, my bad.
A lot of it seems like cognitive dissonance
"Well....I already have a charger anyway so...it's no big deal"
"I can buy it sepreately I guess so it doesn't matter"
Run a little experiment for me.
Let me know how your new 3ds works if you don't buy a charger. Let me see the results after a week of owning one.
Yeah, because rationality and a lack of self-entitlement makes one automatically a corporate apologist. But please, be my guest and go on with your typical exaggerated rage and bullshit comparisons (vita memory cards; SeanR1221 bullshit comment above), that only make you look infantile. I'll get the popcorn.
I'd have a working 3DS with a dead battery? What's your point?
For phones?? LOL where in tue EU are you?
Raptomex
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This. In fact I have multiple chargers. One for my original 3DS and another for my XL.
prag16
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This thread wouldn't be 24 pages if we didn't inexplicably have a whole bunch of people actually defending this decision on the part of NoA.
It was absurd when NoE did it with the original 3DSXL, and it's absurd now. There's no defending it.
No, it's not the end of the world, and some people are definitely overreacting. But it's not a defensible decision, like at all.