Windows 10: The Next Chapter - Media Briefing Details (Phil Spencer speaking)

Absolutely not. It will basically kill independent application distribution in the long term.

I'm not informed enough to dispute that. Things are heading in that direction anyway though with iOS and the OHA.

Question for you, how is independent application distribution on OSX?
 
Is this where I can buy a ticket for the Age of Empires 4, Freelancer 2, Midtown Madness 4, Crimson Skies 2 and Hexic 4K hype train?
 
I'll sit at the back, not expecting a ton but hope for some Forza on PC. Kind of interested in the OS actually, being a Windows 7 user still.
 
Why the fuck would I want streaming from the Xbox One to my PC. That defeats the purpose of having a powerful PC.

"PC" can be a lot of things nowadays. And among others, a tablet. Maybe even a phone.
And not all PC are powerful.
I don't think I'd be interested in streaming an Xbox game to my tablet though... maybe TV, but it doesn't seem to be that easy (or it wouldn't be exclusive to the tuner right now).
 
Or vice versa, I don't get how that is a major "want" from some of the posters here
It's the most realistic want though. As much as some people in this thread seem to want it, it's highly unlikely that Phil Spencer is going to walk onto the stage and say "Hey, you know those xbox brand defining exclusive titles we have? Well, they're not exclusive anymore." Allowing people to use any Windows 10 device to access their Xbox One library of games would be nice.
 
Why the fuck would I want streaming from the Xbox One to my PC. That defeats the purpose of having a powerful PC.

PC is a subset of Win10 devices. If XBone could stream to any Win10 device, that is pretty cool. Say, that little hdmi dongle that Intel created, for example. But I would even find use in streaming to my PC. I don't own Sunset Overdrive on my PC and if my wife is watching TV I can no longer play Sunset Overdrive. With streaming, I could.
 
Why the fuck would I want streaming from the Xbox One to my PC. That defeats the purpose of having a powerful PC.

Yeah, I'm not sure I care either. I want the stream to go the other way. Right now due to location, I don't have a good way to get my PC games on my TV. I'd get an Xbox if it allowed that.
 
Its never too late to join hop on the train! Going to stop posting updates for tonight soon though. So if you want to jump on just keep posting and I will add you to the train.

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Throw me on board!!!
 
Why the fuck would I want streaming from the Xbox One to my PC. That defeats the purpose of having a powerful PC.

To play Xbox games on another TV or monitor without having to buy another system, or repurchase the game for PC. This interests me a whole lot since my Xbox is totally the media center of our living room, so bringing into another room when the TV is occupied is a chore and a half. This would allow me to actually play the games I freaking own and never get more than 15 mins with without having to spend a fortune.

Also, not everyone has a powerful PC.
 
I don't care for streaming my Xbox One games to my PC, but streaming my DirectX PC games to an Xbox One is more appealing to me.

The Xbox One could be a good client to get PC games in the living room via streaming.
 
I don't care for streaming my Xbox One games to my PC, but streaming my DirectX PC games to an Xbox One is more appealing to me.

The Xbox One could be a good client to get PC games in the living room via streaming.

Yea, I would like this a lot. Let me be able to buy and stream any game from a new streamlined Windows Store to my Xbox One.
 
So they are promising the same thing again?

Calling it: 2016 news: Microsoft promises total integration of every device with Windows 11.
 
So they are promising the same thing again?

Calling it: 2016 news: Microsoft promises total integration of every device with Windows 11.

Well the difference is that they have said that having a singular united OS between devices was the plan for quite a long time, although all steps have been somewhat tentative thus far. The difference with Windows 10, is that it is actually based around that concept, so they can't actually back out of it now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfveyXCsiA8
 
http://nvisionapp.com/microsoft-reveals-future-pc-gaming-next-week/

[T]he Xbox experience isn’t limited just to the console,” Will Tuttle, Xbox Wire Editor in Chief writes. “The Xbox team is continually working hard to expand and improve the experience across myriad devices—including home gaming PCs, soon to be powered by Windows 10. - See more at: http://nvisionapp.com/microsoft-reveals-future-pc-gaming-next-week/#sthash.pjik6Yq0.dpuf

Our goal is to help PC gaming flourish, and we’re excited to be helping shape the future of Windows, - See more at: http://nvisionapp.com/microsoft-reveals-future-pc-gaming-next-week/#sthash.pjik6Yq0.dpuf
 
A little late to that party...

Normally I'm supposed to say that MS should simply stay away from PC gaming....But the platform could benefit from their software. Games would still be exclusive to their Windows ecosystem (or Xbox on Windows since they want to bring Xbox to PC).

I don't give a **** about Halo or Sunset on PC but I know many who do.
 
I'm not informed enough to dispute that. Things are heading in that direction anyway though with iOS and the OHA.

Question for you, how is independent application distribution on OSX?

it's bad. i have a friend who used to write for OS X and linux and has basically given up on OS X because she doesn't want to get on the app store and going outside is a huge pain for development, not to mention the end user.
 
Things are heading in that direction anyway though with iOS and the OHA.

Just because one system in the market does something does not mean everyone must do that thing. Even if major companies adopt that practice, that does not mean other companies must, nor that consumers should be complacent in accepting that change.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

If consumers allow companies to close the market, segment it, and exploit them, then that is as much the consumer's fault as theirs. One tool is education. Another is consumer action, either distributing software themselves, or supporting the companies that meet their needs.

Further, the closed nature of smartphone hardware contributes to being able to lock down that part of the market. It is why open hardware standards, such as PC, should continue to be supported, as they keep the market honest, and push innovations.

The massive backlash against Window 8 and its proposition to close off applications that were not Microsoft approved, as illustrated by Valve's hesitation at that prospect, should have been enough to keep Microsoft from attempting to do so again. If they try to do so again, I hope there will be just as much backlash.
 
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Alright People I am all caught up. Anyone else like a seat on this beautiful Hype Train?

Mhee not sure, wasn't because of Arma 3 I would've wipe the Windows partition out of my system. I've been mostly using Linux, because of work and because well its just better, Most games I truly care about are on linunx these days which is awesome news.

MS really need to bring something especial with this one
 
Absolutely not. It will basically kill independent application distribution in the long term.

Wouldn't that be the point? If it happens it should have been obvious to anyone since Windows 8 was announced.
Can I have a seat on the doom train?

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Absolutely not. It will basically kill independent application distribution in the long term.

As much as they pretend they get "desktop" with windows 10, it is clear they closing that platform into a wallet garden.

Personally I don't worry much, I do most of my dev time on linux, most of the games I care about are fine and dandy running under ubuntu.

so yeah, thanks gaben.
 
Normally I'm supposed to say that MS should simply stay away from PC gaming....But the platform could benefit from their software. Games would still be exclusive to their Windows ecosystem (or Xbox on Windows since they want to bring Xbox to PC).

I don't give a **** about Halo or Sunset on PC but I know many who do.

The concern is Microsoft trying to manipulate an ecosystem they have shown themselves to not completely understand (GFWL), and potential set back the companies that have formed their own services and distribution on the platform. Sure you can be optimistic about it, but I find myself to be pretty sceptical.
 
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