APEX 2015 | Fighting Game Tournament | Jan 30-Feb 1

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So really, Smash 4 only went over by about 40 minutes, which isn't ridiculous. Still, best of 5 is not the best, in my opinion.

Anywho, time for Melee!
 
I really wanted to like SMASH4 competitive and people all been saying wait till apex to see some crazy shit, sadly I'm pretty disappointed and the variety of minute to minute scenarios really let me down, I really hope this game gets enough time to be all cooked up for Evo, big ups to Zero though, noone can discount the fact that man has been putting mad work not just in Smash4 but every game he strives to be good at.
 
Jeeze, kind of cool that Zero is the Ken of Smash 4. That's cool.

He's extremely aggressive and knows how to beat out shields with empty hops, and in general just knows his match-ups. Olimar is a good counter against cookie-cuter Diddy, and you kinda saw how all of the Diddys outside of ZeRo fell off to the rest of the roster, but Dabuz's campy game just can't hold against Diddy's rush down.

Sheik's lack of kill power is why Mr.R lost to Dabuz.
 
All in all enjoyable tournament. I think the pools were more fun than top 8 but overall I had a fun time. I'm excited for Smash 4 Evo.
 
That was bearable, but his Olimar was pretty disgusting to me.

That is how Olimar is built? Have you even played Smash 4? Serious question, cause you seem oblivious to how the characters play especially against Diddy. Diddy's upairs come out almost immediately. That is why he can juggle like that.
 
I really wanted to like SMASH4 competitive and people all been saying wait till apex to see some crazy shit, sadly I'm pretty disappointed and didn't the variety of minute to minute scenarios really let me down, I really hope this game gets enough time to be all cooked up for Evo, big ups to Zero though, noone can discount the fact that man has been putting mad work not just in Smash4 but every game he strives to be good at.
Watch the doubles finals for entertaining Smash 4 from Apex. That set was crazy.
 
1:40 actually, IIRC Melee top 8 should've started at 9:00 PM EST.

"The melee doubles bracket ran four hours overtime, the singles bracket still hasn't finished when it was supposed to be done two hours before the Wii U finals started. Wii U doubles also ran overtime. Only the Wii U bracket ran on time today, and only because they completed half of it yesterday night"
 
1:40 actually, IIRC Melee top 8 should've started at 9:00 PM EST.

I thought it was listed for 10 EST? Oh well. That's pretty bad then, lol.

But yeah, I was hoping Smash 4 would be more interesting come APEX, but overall it's been kind of boring. Pools had some good moments, but it's just not interesting enough.
 
Smash 4 needs to be best out of 3 until Grand finals. Do best out of five then. At least EVO will know how to do it.
 
Nothing this commentator says is insightful, some of it is wrong, and he won't shut up about how great Zero is.

Not a good display of Smash Bros Wii U overall. There were like, 4 characters and all of them are considered top 5. Don't think Olimar counts because he was specifically used as a Diddy counter.
 
is there a nintendo announcment?

no, and there never was gonna be

there was a "special announcement" scheduled to be nowbefore the venue change happened, not sure if it will still happen

but don't expect anything big


DO EXPECT: MANG0 VS LEFFEN MOST HYPE MATCH OF THE MILLENIUM
 
The games went pretty fast IMO. It's just the after-game coaching and other things that slowed it down. Well aside from the time-outs earlier, which was still pretty entertaining.

For a first time big event for Smash 4, it was pretty good. Top 16 had a variety of characters, we saw a lot of strategies and not just hoo-hahs all throughout, and has a lot of entertaining moments. Can't wait for its intro at Evo!
 
Seems like some people weren't cheering because Zero won, but because Smash4 is finished

Some people also probably chanted "MELEEEEE" like last year. Sigh.

It's not the community figureheads but people who are just ignorant as hell and poisoning the well.
 
"The melee doubles bracket ran four hours overtime, the singles bracket still hasn't finished when it was supposed to be done two hours before the Wii U finals started. Wii U doubles also ran overtime. Only the Wii U bracket ran on time today, and only because they completed half of it yesterday night"

I wasn't implying anything other than the fact it was supposed to start at 9:00 PM EST.

I'm no Melee player and I love Sm4sh.

Why is everybody here so defensive? :(
 
That is how Olimar is built? Have you even played Smash 4? Serious question, cause you seem oblivious to how the characters play especially against Diddy. Diddy's upairs come out almost immediately. That is why he can juggle like that.

Yeah, I play Sonic and tried playing it at least 8-12 hours a week (a lot more in the first month), but lately I dunno.

I get that Olimar is the boring to watch character in Smash 4 like some match ups can be in Melee, but I feel like Olimar vs anyone is boring. I just think he gets rewarded too much for playing Safe and his safe options are all defensive.

I don't think everyone needs to like every character or they automatically don't play the game, lol.
 
Yeah, me too, he seems like a really cool guy. And not only that, but the fact that he gave out all those hotel rooms was really great of him.

it looks like he put in some real work to be able to do this. he's just not cut out for this work. i feel like i've digested a dangerous dose of artificial hype over the past few hours. would've been fine in small doses, like if they rotated the casters.
 
lol even though diddy seems OP, give the game time to evolve, i promise that diddy wont be looked at the same a year from now (with or without nerfs).

I honestly do not believe this for even a second. We've pretty much seen the metagame move mostly in one direction, and that is favoring characters with safe aerials and throw setups. The most that will happen is Diddy will no longer be #1, and maybe we'll see more Pikachu. Characters like Ganondorf, Ike, and Bowser will still be screwed, Zelda will settle into bottom tier, Yoshi might move up or down, and everyone else will pretty much stay as they are.
 
Now I feel like people are trolling by asking if Nintendo is gonna make an announcement. For the billionth time, there isn't going to be an announcement from Nintendo.
 
lol even though diddy seems OP, give the game time to evolve, i promise that diddy wont be looked at the same a year from now (with or without nerfs).

I know lol. I expect the game to be much more interesting as people find more ways to counter some of the more spacing-heavy characters. Heavy hitting characters are so much more fun to watch, but I think people just aren't confident enough with them yet.
 
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