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Good thread.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/partners/early/e_pioneers_drew.html
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Wow..amazing man.
 
It still blows my mind that there are people alive who still VIVIDLY remember the Civil Rights Era.

"Slavery was so long ago, get over it!" phrases get me heated when barely less than two generations ago we were still in slavery by another name.


Come talk to my grandmother, she's 82 years old and remembers it like yesterday
 
It still blows my mind that there are people alive who still VIVIDLY remember the Civil Rights Era.

"Slavery was so long ago, get over it!" phrases get me heated when barely less than two generations ago we were still in slavery by another name.

At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

It didn't take as long as I thought it would for the "quit bringing up old shit" argument to pop up.
 
While it's vastly important to look back, let's look at the present day.

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Serena Williams moved into the number two position for most Open Grand Slam single titles of all time. I'm a let you finish, but she is currently ranked #1 in Women's Tennis, oversaw the progress of Women's Tennis to be more popular than men's tennis and is currently still dominating the sport.

Many have waited for her demise but with her current win, she is 3 wins from tying Graf for most of all time. She excels in New York and isn't a slouch at Wimbledon. She could easily finish this year one win away from #22. Go on, with your bad self.

Current history in the making.
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

Apartheid still affects South Africa even more than Jim Crow did the United because it was so recently. 20 years ago is long enough to have the majority of the country still alive when it occured, and under went it.

If the government is using it as an excuse, so be it, but the economic and social devestation it caused should never be forgotten.
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

Damn, I had no idea South Africa was a post-racial utopia, long recovered from the crippling social injustice of Apartheid. Any tips for those of us still struggling with the tensions of a multicultural society in the UK and the rest of the world?
 
Thanks for the OP. I'm going to save it for future reference when I have to break it out against annoying white friends who ask "where's my white history month"
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

You're probably right. As the great saying goes, 'Those who remember the past are doomed to repeat it.'
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

1) Black History Month is about remembering historical events important to or related to black citizens, which is celebrated in United States and Canada in the month of February. The history includes both positive and negative events, including inventions, historical achievements, and first by and for black citizens. This topic is not the platform to complain about discussion of these events, particularly Apartheid.

2) I cannot speak on South Africa, but not discussing/avoiding discussion of negative events in black history like Apartheid, slavery, Jim Crow, etc... is one of the big reasons why black people in the US continue to have these issues with other ethnic groups, to the point where they make national headlines. "Moving forward" doesn't mean trying to pretend the events didn't happen or not bringing them up outside of when movies are made. Talking and discussing these events freely not only help black people and other ethnic groups understand each other more, but also helps everyone to "move on" because it becomes less of a big deal discussing these events since everyone knows about them and are comfortable talking about it. It is the attitudes of people wanting these events to be buried or wanting future generations to have no knowledge of them that makes it hard for black people in the US to "move forward", because we (in general) feel like our history is being ignored and trivialized and the country as a whole is and will continue to make the same mistakes towards black people if we don't remind them of these negative events.
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now
Santayana and Churchill were fools..
 
At the same time do you not think people should stop looking at the past and start looking toward the future. I 100% agree that we should not dismiss the horrible things that happened, but if we only look behind us we can never see where we are heading

As a young person living in South Africa, hearing about Apartheid makes my blood boil. Its only ever used as an excuse by the government when they fuck something up and need to placate the masses.

"The Struggle" this and that. So many political speeches refers to Apartheid as if it still holds sway over the country and its people.

It was more than 20 years ago. Harping on about it is not helping the country now

I can't speak for black people, but BHM seems to be a time to remember just how far we have come to equality amongst the races in America and a reminder that there is still quite a ways to go until everyone is equal under the law. The act of remembering let's us, as Americans, know that the civil rights of minorities is still an issue.
 
Maybe I'm a lot of months behind (UK here), but seeing as racism still exists, you guys enjoy this fucking month. Judging by the shit you've had to deal with, both over the years and in everyday life, it'd be wrong not to enjoy it. Seriously, fuck everyone else. You guys are every bit as horrible and human as the rest of us, even if lots of fat, hideous, old rich white men say you're not even that.
 
It didn't take as long as I thought it would for the "quit bringing up old shit" argument to pop up.

Not many people say "quit dwelling in the past" when we commemorate patriotic wars (WWI&II) or Nazi crimes against humanity, yet I hear that refrain constantly whenever black (or Native American) history is discussed. I wonder why that is.

Speaking of the past: my WTF moment of the week was reading up on the era of "coon tunes"..and how, according to Wiki, "they were a national craze" in the US and UK from the late 1800s to the early 20th century. The hits of the era included gems like "Every Race has a Flag but the Coon" and "All Coons Look Alike to Me" (which was actually written by a black man, Ernest Hogan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_song
 
My mom is 64 and man the stories she tells. Grandmother died at 93 a couple years ago. She got to see a black president in her lifetime. The look on her face when I saw her the day after Obamas election......man.
 
Now for one of the more endearing (If one can refer to anything regarding slavery as endearing) stories of the mid 1800s:
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Henry Box Brown!

Now what did he do?
Wikipedia said:
With the help of James C. A. Smith, a free black, and a sympathetic white shoemaker (and likely gambler) named Samuel A. Smith (no relation), Brown devised a plan to have himself shipped to a free state by Adams Express Company, known for its confidentiality and efficiency.They advised him to mail the box to the office of Quaker merchant Passmore Williamson, who was active with the Vigilance Committee.
To get out of work the day he was to escape, Brown burned his hand to the bone with oil of vitriol (sulfuric acid).The box that Brown was shipped in was 3 feet long by 2 feet 8 inches deep by 2 feet wide and displayed the words "dry goods" on it. Brown later wrote that his uncertain method of travel was worth the risk: "if you have never been deprived of your liberty, as I was, you cannot realize the power of that hope of freedom, which was to me indeed, an anchor to the soul both sure and steadfast."
During the trip, which began on March 29, 1849, Brown's box was transported by wagon, railroad, steamboat, wagon again, railroad, ferry, railroad, and finally delivery wagon, being completed in 27 hours. Despite the instructions on the box of "handle with care" and "this side up," several times carriers placed the box upside-down or handled it roughly.The box was received by Williamson, McKim, William Still, and other members of the Philadelphia Vigilance Committee on March 30, 1849.

However, like every tale from this time period, there were the downsides (Other than losing your hand for freedom).

Henry Box Brown left behind his enslaved wife and children. For a short time Brown became a noted abolitionist speaker in the northeast United States. He lost the support of the abolitionist community, notably Frederick Douglass, who wished Brown had kept quiet about the details of his escape so that others could have used similar means.
 
I'm sorry if this is not appropiate, but after eading the OT, I felt like giving some recognition to a couple of people who gave us some of the best music ever made. Detroit Techno.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_techno

The godfathers of Techno

Kevin Saunderson, Derrick May and Juan Atkins.
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Rhythim is Rhythim - Strings of Life
Innercity - Big Fun
Juan Atkins - Techno Music

Robert Hood, one of the founders of Undergroun resistance, and a man who made minimal way before weird German hipsters took over. (and better)
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Robert Hood - Detroit:One circle

And my personal hero. Jeff Mills. I've seen him live more times then i can count, and it's always magic. The way he handles 3 decks and 2 909's is a joy to see and hear.

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Jeff Mills - The Bells

I'm missing tons and tons of people, and i could go on for hours, but I'm not sure if that's what this topic is about.
 
I'm sorry if this is not appropiate, but after eading the OT, I felt like giving some recognition to a couple of people who gave us some of the best music ever made. Detroit Techno.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_techno

The godfathers of Techno

Kevin Saunderson, Derrick May and Juan Atkins.
belleville-threex0urz.jpg


Rhythim is Rhythim - Strings of Life
Innercity - Big Fun
Juan Atkins - Techno Music

Robert Hood, one of the founders of Undergroun resistance, and a man who made minimal way before weird German hipsters took over. (and better)
picture-16huxc.png


Robert Hood - Detroit:One circle

And my personal hero. Jeff Mills. I've seen him live more times then i can count, and it's always magic. The way he handles 3 decks and 2 909's is a joy to see and hear.

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Jeff Mills - The Bells

I'm missing tons and tons of people, and i could go on for hours, but I'm not sure if that's what this topic is about.
I was just listening to Rhythim Is Rhythim earlier this morning. Great track.
 
Now for one of the more endearing (If one can refer to anything regarding slavery as endearing) stories of the mid 1800s:
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Henry Box Brown!

Now what did he do?
There's a Scholastic cartoon based on this story that I've shown to my boys numerous times. It's a wee bit Disneyfied (talking mice bringing my man sandwiches inside his box, for starters) but thought-provoking enough for kids.
 
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