TheOhrenberger.
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Obviously this is way too soon, but if this group sticks together and maybe we get one more defensive piece and one more offensive weapon there is no reason why the Pats can't do this again next season.
Super Bowl XLIX |OT| The Butler Did It
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LyleLanley
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Neither Vereen nor McCourty have made boat loads of cash yet.
11 catches for 64 yards. He played the game of his life.
RBs aren't expensive, if he's leaving it's because Bill believes in White as his replacement.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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with Revis allowing a restructure they can all eat no?
LyleLanley
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It's possible but there's no indication yet that Revis is willing to take a significant pay cut. Not to mention that they have other guys they need to pay over the next two off seasons. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/yearly-cap/
George Claw M.D.
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To pull the other team offsides like what actually happened in that game. If it had failed the first time, you can try a second time. A loss of yardarge penalty in that situation doesn't hurt at all. But if you pull the defense offsides you get a defensive penalty which gets you 5 yards onto the field where you can safely take a knee.
Tragicomedy
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It will come down to how well they adjust to playing a full season with properly inflated footballs.
LyleLanley
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Since they have the best QB of all time on the team I think they'll overcome this challenge.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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well yea we are going to lose some guys we can't pay everybody I am hoping we can find a way to keep those 3 that you mentioned though.
CitizenCope
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Hahaha that would be glorious.
I think my initial response is the NFC representative in the SB next year between SEA or the field, I think I would take the field just as in how this loss will probably sit with them and the fallout that they will have from how it ended.
That is why I tend to think they will let Lynch go, they can't break the bank for him. He is a great back, but I don't think they want Shaun Alexander 2.0. There is no way they can lose Wagner or Russell...but can they keep all three? Even if they let Lynch go, who replaces him a rookie, Turbin or a FA? That is what intrigues me and makes it so interesting to see how it plays out in SEA.
That was really awesome. Every guy contributed with at least one key play. It wasn't just all on Gronk or Edelman although both were good in this game. Amendola was a huge surprise for me. He was solid in the post season. If he can reproduce that on more regular basis next season that would be awesome. Speaking of rewatching the game. Anyone know when the NFL network will air the game again?
Vereen shouldn't be too massive a contract. Guy with consistent injury issues, but with potential. Should be able to find a way to keep him around.
From what I understand Pats can resign Revis/McCourty easily if he makes 10-16 a year. Things get dicey if the Pats have to pay Revis that 20 mil a year. They could then keep both, but that would mean you lose a player like Wilfork. Which I am fine with.
The real problem is that right now Lynch is the heart and soul of that offense. They have no receivers, and if they let Lynch go Wilson is going to be in for a very very rough season next year.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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you would be fine with us losing our anchor!? Wilforks size alone influences the defense big time. We need a good huge anchor to free up gaps for are pass rushers and to stuff the run.
LyleLanley
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I think Mayo and Amendola are the obvious cut/restructure candidates.
Tragicomedy
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Incoming uptick in RB fumbles after Belichick decides to stop preaching ball control...or something.
LyleLanley
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I'm excited for Stevan Ridley to go to another team and be used as evidence for why Belichick is a cheater when he continues his fumbling ways.
It's a game and I have a life so I'll gladly chew on that you fucking douchebag.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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you think jonas gray will be a pat next year? PATs have allot of runninbacks. Do we still believe in Riddley? do we keep Blount?
Wilfork is no longer the same player he once was. Have to rewatch the last half of the season, but to me he didn't look like the same player. It would suck to lose Wilfork,but would you rather have Revis/Vince or Revis/McCourty? To me the answer is simply. I would take Revis/McCourty and try to draft a big run stuffing DT since you already have another young penetrating DT on the roster.
Yup yup.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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well in New England Football/sports is life so I have one too thank you and good day sir.It's a game and I have a life so I'll gladly chew on that you fucking douchebag.
friskykillface
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Amendola stepped up during the playoffs , really expected him to do nothing but he stepped up
He's a good Welker Jr Jr
He's a good Welker Jr Jr
LyleLanley
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Ridley is almost certainly gone in my opinion and Blount only costs a million so he's sticking around. I could go either way on Gray but I think he, and James White for that matter, probably stay.
He really isn't, but such as life. Was hearing the talk yesterday and it made sense...forget where I heard it but the discussion is when an Offensive player makes a great play, you rarely heard "what a terrible play by the defense." When a defensive player makes a great play, you rarely hear "what a great play by the defender." He made a great read and reacted quickly.
It wasn't a great play call admittedly, but I don't think it was nearly as bad as people have made it out to be. I think SEA's feeling was that NE was going to call a TO and if NE does that, they definitely hand the ball to Lynch on 2nd down...when NE didn't call that TO, I think SEA panicked a little and decided to throw on 2nd down so if it is incomplete you stop the clock with your 1 TO in hand so you aren't forced to throw on 3rd down and all of you options are still on the table for 3rd and 4th down since they have that one TO in their pocket.
Yeah, if Lynch goes, they are going to have to find something else to build that offense around. Probably Russell and a new star back, need some receivers though.
Ridley is needed to keep the fumble conspiracists at bay. If keeping Blount costs a lot of money, I can see Bill cutting him loose and sticking with Gray.
Just want to thank the Steelers once again for Blount. Much appreciated.
Alligatorjandro
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Amendola was amazing this game. When he slipped that first tackle I got hyped. Really great game by McDaniels. He was awesome this postseason.
Luck will throw 4INTs in Luck Fashion and win, ending the BradyBill era.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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I think Mcdaniels is a awesome offense coordinator, the shocking thing is I read on here that not all Pats-GAF feels JM.
TheOhrenberger.
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I would love to see Amendola restructure his contract and stick around.
That is most certainly true. Especially if you aren't a big name defensive player. The call wasn't great, but the execution by the Pats was perfect. Can't play that any better than the Pats in that situation. Browner just erased his man so easily, and created that lane for Butler. In case you missed this. Here is a great breakdown on the Butler interception.
Like Belichick he tends to over think things. He's a great OC, but a lot of times he gets way way too cute. Was terrific in this run though for sure.
That is a great point. Because the receivers (other than Gronk) were outmatched physically against Seattle's secondary, the Pats pass catchers had to be almost perfect and very, very precise. And they were. I think I heard there were no dropped passes?
Another thing I love is the dichotomy between the 4th CBs on each team. Alot was made of Jeremy Lane going out - as there should be, he's a good player. But the 4th corner on the Seahawks got absolutely roasted in the second half, while the 4th corner on the Pats made an incredible read and made one of the best plays in Super Bowl history. Really proves the value of depth and coaching up your guys.
(Not that I don't think Seattle doesn't have depth or good coaching).
Going into that game, all the "experts" were saying the Seahawks D was going to intimidate/crush the smaller WRs of the Pats. Never saw it. All I saw was Vereen, Amendola, and Edelman grabbing lots of extra yards by eluding defenders or simply fighting harder than the opposing players. When they finally got a good cheap shot in on Edelman, he only returned the favor by burning them yet again on his TD. Oddly enough it was Edelman's defense against Lane that proved to be the biggest hit of the game.
Seahawks were laying the hits though. The impressive thing for me is that the Pats receivers never shied away from the ball, and were never intimidated. They took shots to make plays all game. Edelman was so damn underrated going into this game, but I doubt few people will over look him now next season. The oline coach/Brady should get a shit ton of credit. They were average all year, but when it mattered the most they held up. Stork is going to be a monster in a few years.
George Claw M.D.
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Haha! He's the only thing I was sour over the Pats winning. Fucker quit on his team and gets rewarded with a championship the same damn season. Dude didn't even make a difference in the Super Bowl.
Blount is garbage. The Colts D revived his career.
Totally agree. They set the tone - incredible to compare that to Denver's WRs last year. By the way, wasn't that Chancellor hit on Edelman basically textbook helmet to helmet/launching at a defenseless receiver? Overall, I thought the officials did a great job in this game, but I was surprised not to see them call that after the emphasis all year long.
twice!
Indeed, was impressive offensive game plan all around, McDaniels called a great game and the offense executed it near perfectly, McDaniels can outthink himself sometimes, he didn't Sunday though. They took their shots when the opportunities were there (Gronk TD and the Lafell incomplete pass-was a great play by Simon to break it up), but Brady only got greedy once on that terrible pick in the redzone. Even the Wagner pick wasn't a bad play, just not the best throw, with Wagner's momentum taking him in the opposite direction of the throw he was able to stop, change directions and make a great play on the ball.
You can't just have chuck it deep low percentage plays against this defense and expect to succeed consistently with 2nd and 3rd and longs. The short quick throws helped protect the O-line in pass protection and allowed the team to gain yards consistently. Add in the fact that the run game not producing really put the onus on Brady and the receivers and they delivered.
Alligatorjandro
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I just can't get over how cool it was that it was Butler who made that interception. Dude got beat for one of the luckiest plays ever and he is an undrafted rookie.
LyleLanley
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Belichick couldn't have planned it any better.
:'(
Zen_Arcade
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The hashtag bullshit is how you know it's supposed to be a dumb joke.
And the word you're looking for Pats haters is annoyed. Usually because of the mentality that unless you're saying that the Patriots and every thing related to them is the greatest of all time, you're going to have some Pats fan up your ass about how you're jealous or some other equally juvenile defense.
Also, I didn't generalize anything. I just said people think your fan base is collectively the worst. I didn't say every Pats fan acts that way, but there are enough to make the fan base collectively notorious for it.
At least you've graduated from the dumb jealous quip to repeating something I said. Still haven't come up with a good come back though.
Hey bro your teams' QB will never be as Joe Montana! Chew on that! Lmao.
Don't waste your time, ain't worth it.
LyleLanley
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You sound jealous of Brady and all of his success.
Alligatorjandro
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Even if you don't put Brady over Montana, there's no one you can really put over Brady except Montana.
What's a good comeback to say to someone so irrational that they claim to hate a city because of some lame joke they saw someone write on a message board? What kind of person does that? Seek help.
You're constantly wasting your time. That's why we like you.
And just to add a cherry on top, Chris Carter's son is finally out of the CFL, and signing with the Colts. Can't wait for the next game. Carter's going to whine even more now when they get beat down.
Zen_Arcade
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Oh you're just being too obvious about it. I know you can swindle me better then that Lyle. You've sold useless monorails to Ogdenville, North Haverbrook AND Brockway.
I didn't say I hated any city. I don't know what you're referencing. The closest I came to saying I hated a city is saying that people hate Boston/Patriots fans, and the Boston there implies that it's saying Boston fans, as in fans of Boston based sports teams, because that kind of attitude isn't limited to football fans.
I want to believe you are joking but sadly you probably are not.
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