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[Neiteio]

GG is fighting a losing battle. At the end of the day, the rest of the world looks at this and sees women who feel hurt, and a group of people (GG) telling them to shut up. Whatever GG claims to be about, that's how it looks. Cyber bullying, plain and simple.

 

[Kinsei]

GG is fighting a losing battle. At the end of the day, the rest of the world looks at this and sees women who feel hurt, and a group of people (GG) telling them to shut up. Whatever GG claims to be about, that's how it looks. Cyber bullying, plain and simple.

But they don't care how they look to the rest of the world and until their precious AAA developers actually start speaking out against them (not gonna happen) nothing will change.

 

[Mesoian]

But they don't care how they look to the rest of the world and until their precious AAA developers actually start speaking out against them (not gonna happen) nothing will change.

And even if they do, which, you're right, they won't, it'll be seen as a consession, a sign that GG is failing, and their efforts will be redoubled because "we can't lose this fight, WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE VIDEO GAMES!"

 

[Armageddon]

Are 12 year olds using Twitter now? If not, how would someone that young even learn about GamerGate and/or comprehend what's happening?

Also, do people still actively tweet with the GamerGate hashtag? Or have they all just moved on to 8chan to fester amongst themselves?

 

[Jazz-ism]

I've had gamergate explained to me a thousand times an I still think i dont understand what its all about lol

i feel the same way

 

[Grexeno]

i feel the same way

Sociopathic manchildren hate women, specifically of the "game developer" variety.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

I was talking to a friend just today who was saying how dissuaded she is from the whole idea of making real games... because from what she heard it's just going to lead to harassment. It was a stark contrast where myself and my other male friend were just saying we don't think we have it in us anymore, and that we feel like the opportunity/time has passed, whereas I assume she would otherwise be eager and ambitious if no stigma existed. I didn't really know what to say other than "don't let that stop you" since it seems like a reality that I couldn't say was being exaggerated. Maybe I should've said that now is the turning point and times will change.

Someone should put these letters in a binder, though.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Are 12 year olds using Twitter now? If not, how would someone that young even learn about GamerGate and/or comprehend what's happening?

Also, do people still actively tweet with the GamerGate hashtag? Or have they all just moved on to 8chan to fester amongst themselves?

People younger than 12 use Twitter, and GamerGate isn't just a thing on Twitter.

 

[aliengmr]

Except it does. Most people don't side with GamerGate but just sit to the side quietly not doing anything. If there was a large group that was vocal that did things like raise awareness and protest I think it would help a lot more than a few articles on websites here and there. I'd join a group like that to help, but without a group like that there isn't really anything I can do but sit to the side, especially as a white-passing male who doesn't work in the game industry or media.

This has gone way beyond a misguided movement and is now just in conspiracy-land. Its impervious to self reflection. Fighting it is impossible. Its like fighting any conspiracy movement, prove one thing false they throw 10 more things at you, it never ends. And considering it supported by MRA trash, that was more than willing to pick up more sycophants, its got just enough fuel to sustain itself. GG feeds on its own rage and its very personal.

The best thing anyone can do is look at GamerGate, and not be that.

 

[zeldablue]

This is really intense.

I'm not going to lie, this whole ordeal has made me pretty depressed. I have to avoid this stuff because it honestly poisons the mind regardless of which side you stand on. It's an extremely important discussion to have, but not in this way. If it makes you angry or frustrated then I would advise to back down for at least a week. Barely anything gets accomplished through hatred. It just bores more hurt feelings and creates a cycle of blame and...suffering.

Any chance we can switch this into an act of love? How well you treat your enemies says a lot about who you are. Forgiveness is not an act of weakness but one of strength.

And well...I really feel like sexism is just a result of repressed emotional pain anyways. In fact, that's basically what all forms of hate are: repressed emotional pain. If you want to put an end to sexism or don't know why you've been called sexist, then remember that you can't skip the main step. When the plane is crashing you have to put on your own oxygen mask before helping the person next to you. With that in mind, is it ever really possible to love and accept someone else when you don't fully love and accept yourself? If you're the one mad about potentially being sexist, then put on your oxygen mask. And if you're the one telling someone to put the oxygen mask on you...then let that person put their mask on first.

And I think those are the questions everyone needs to step back and think about. All phobias and all forms of hatred start with the self. They are projected onto disadvantaged groups simply because quite frankly no one ever supports or gives a shit about disadvantaged groups. Both racism and sexism are the result of feeling the need to measure your own worth by stepping on others. Why do people do this? Because they can't find worth in themselves alone, so they need the certainty that prejudice provides.

Everyone carries a pit in their souls saying they were robbed of the love and belonging they deserve, everyone smacks others down to express that pain. I can shamelessly say it leads to nothing besides a short glimpse of satisfaction followed by a blinding addiction to hatred. And depression is nothing but hatred turned inward. :C

There's really not going to be a cure to sexism until you cure the hatred from each and every person's heart. And I'm pretty sure you can only do that by caring about each other. So regardless of where things go from here, I hope that everyone, regardless of how they feel, knows that they deserve love, belongingness and happiness in their lives. Because worth is measured in happiness and not in the pain of those you distrust.

 

[Neiteio]

i feel the same way

GamerGate claims to be about ethics in games journalism. I think the term stems from the "scandal" (read: completely fabricated allegations) that a female indie dev slept with a journalist or something. Hence the name "GamerGate" was formed, a portmanteau of "Gamer" and "Watergate" (reference to the Nixon scandal in the U.S. that led to the president's impeachment).

In practice, though, there's little meaningful discussion of games journalism. Instead, you have a group of people who are trying to intimidate feminists and their sympathizers with smear campaigns, cyber bullying, and genuine acts of terrorism.

They do this, in part, because they feel the feminists are trying to censor the content they like. And by extension, they take this as a criticism of themselves as people. So they've also come to frame the movement as a defense of "creative liberty" and "free expression."

But of course, this couldn't be farther from the truth. There may be a feminist here or there that wants certain tropes or products banned from the marketplace, but for the most part they are just women who feel alienated by current gender roles in games, and by the way girl gamers and developers are treated in what has historically been a "boys' club." They want to express -why- they feel alienated, in the hopes that it will lead to an industry and culture that is more inclusive of girl gamers and developers.

The fact anyone would try to resist this, rather than offering up basic empathy and respect, is a bit alarming.

 

[Armageddon]

People younger than 12 use Twitter, and GamerGate isn't just a thing on Twitter.

Man, that's crazy to me, I don't think I've ever seen someone that young on Twitter. Although I guess I wouldn't be able to really tell.

Also I know GamerGate isn't just on Twitter, I was just wondering if they're still active on there since that's where they did a lot of their dirty work before (at least I think they did).

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Ew. Pretty fucking sad for the industry in general.

 

[Neiteio]

This is really intense.

I'm not going to lie, this whole ordeal has made me pretty depressed. I have to avoid this stuff because it honestly poisons the mind regardless of which side you stand on. It's an extremely important discussion to have, but not in this way. If it makes you angry or frustrated then I would advise to back down for at least a week. Barely anything gets accomplished through hatred. It just bores more hurt feelings and creates a cycle of blame and...suffering.

Any chance we can switch this into an act of love? How well you treat your enemies says a lot about who you are. Forgiveness is not an act of weakness but one of strength.

And well...I really feel like sexism is just a result of repressed emotional pain anyways. In fact, that's basically what all forms of hate are: repressed emotional pain. If you want to put an end to sexism or don't know why you've been called sexist, then remember that you can't skip the main step. When the plane is crashing you have to put on your own oxygen mask before helping the person next to you. With that in mind, is it ever really possible to love and accept someone else when you don't fully love and accept yourself?

And I think those are the questions everyone needs to step back and think about. All phobias and all forms of hatred start with the self. They are projected onto disadvantaged groups simply because quite frankly no one ever supports or gives a shit about disadvantaged groups. Both racism and sexism are the result of feeling the need to measure your own worth by stepping on others. Why do people do this? Because they can't find worth in themselves alone, so they need the certainty that prejudice provides.

Everyone carries a pit in their souls saying they were robbed of the love and belonging they deserve, everyone smacks others down to express that pain. I can shamelessly say it leads to nothing besides a short glimpse of satisfaction followed by a blinding addiction to hatred. And depression is nothing but hatred turned inward. :C

There's really not going to be a cure to sexism until you cure the hatred from each and every person's heart. And I'm pretty sure you can only do that by caring about each other. So regardless of where things go from here, I hope that everyone, regardless of how they feel, knows that they deserve love, belongingness and happiness in their lives.

I think I fell in love with you reading that just now.

Seriously, amazing wisdom. There's a lot to be said for mercy.

It's just so hard to be patient with these people when their hate seems never-ending.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I always say 'if you need something done right give it to a woman'

Fighting sexism with sexism? That makes sense.

 

[JonathanNemo]

I didn't really know what to say other than "don't let that stop you" since it seems like a reality that I couldn't say was being exaggerated. Maybe I should've said that now is the turning point and times will change.

Besides sharing encouragement, go the extra mile to take steps and suggest things they can do and places they can go. That will go a long way to help them out.

For that matter, take a little time to work with them. You probably know a few things about games that they don't. And volunteer to stand up for them should the harassment takes place, let them have your contact information and be available for them.

A good part of the current problem is that people in positions of power aren't really doing much to stand up for the people being beat upon.

But you can do something, as a friend, to help tilt the scales the other way. We're all part of the same system, help each other out to make the whole a healthier place. Small kindnesses matter.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

WHAT THE FUCK!?

And yet, the comments section is full of "you're not dead yet so this is all hyperbole".

 

[aliengmr]

I've had gamergate explained to me a thousand times an I still think i dont understand what its all about lol

Its about women getting undeserved attention. Gaming has nothing to do with it, its just a vehicle. Its people who believe that equality exists currently (because they know a woman who is not a raging feminist man-hater), that pushing for more equality is going too far and insulting because it suggests that they are not for equality.

That is literally all its ever been about. And its been around for far longer than GG.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

What other people? And what is your problem with GG discussion being on "entirely negative terms" if, as you say here, there's nothing positive about it?

It's not productive and it doesn't help us understand what's going on. I don't mean to suggest that we should talk about them in positive terms, but there has to be room for us to try to understand who these people are and what the larger social, economic, and cultural factors are that have driven them to these extremes of marginalization and anti-social behavior.

As for what do I mean when I say that Gamergate is used as a rhetorical cudgel to attack people who don't actually sympathize with it, read Lime's post directly before yours:

If you are defending Gamergate, or perpetuating the same arguments as Gamergate, or prioritizing your feelings or opinion over the terrorism of the female targets of Gamergate, or think it's important that you state your opinion without sitting down and educating yourself on this sensitive and toxic issue, then you are committing bigoted actions and contributing to sexism in video games, unwittingly or not.

Fuck Gamergate.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

It's not productive and it doesn't help us understand what's going on. I don't mean to suggest that we should talk about them in positive terms, but there has to be room for us to try to understand who these people are and what the larger social, economic, and cultural factors are that have driven them to these extremes of marginalization and anti-social behavior.

As for what do I mean when I say that Gamergate is used as a rhetorical cudgel to attack people who don't actually sympathize with it, read Lime's post directly before yours:

Did you actually read what you quoted

 

[M0nochromatic]

Sociopathic manchildren hate women, specifically of the "game developer" variety.

Yeah there's nothing more to get, unfortunately. There's no deeper meaning, there's no value there. At some point early on there was actual debate about games journalism. I remember the discussions that eventually led to the jokes about Doritos pope and call backs to Gerstmann gate and how money and advertising was shaping the industry.

The minute feminism and that whole part got introduced is when the genuine discussion died and it became the cesspit of misogyny most are familiar with now and it blew up everywhere. The problem was that you couldn't tell who was still talking about ethics, and who was using the ethics discussion to further their screwed up agenda, effectively poisoning whatever merit that was ever there to begin with.

To see shit like those death threats and real life stalkers is disgusting. It's just so mindlessly appalling. Threatening people because they share your hobby, but like they different parts of it? Talk about the mentality of child.

 

[Neuromancer]

Did Brianna back hers up?

Please ban me. You guys and your circle jerking are so idiotic. This place was never a good place to discuss games, but post-GamerGate it's become even more of a hugbox and far worse than it ever was.

By the way... What would be wrong with being a hugbox? Hugs are great. You're banned now but if you're reading this, go get a hug from someone you like or care about. Maybe it'll make you feel better.

 

[thesaucetastic]

I'm not surprised, but I am really disappointed by it.

 

[The Technomancer]

It's not productive and it doesn't help us understand what's going on. I don't mean to suggest that we should talk about them in positive terms, but there has to be room for us to try to understand who these people are and what the larger social, economic, and cultural factors are that have driven them to these extremes of marginalization and anti-social behavior.

As for what do I mean when I say that Gamergate is used as a rhetorical cudgel to attack people who don't actually sympathize with it, read Lime's post directly before yours:

I think you overestimate the possible depth, or at least the actual utility, of a deep dive on whatever factors there are. Its obvious now as it was obvious in the beginning that what we have is a subulture fueled by equal parts resentment and entitled possessiveness that has created a social system without any negative feedback (in the systems sense) such that their behavior very quickly saturates to the most vile extremes. GamerGate is the social equivalent of a microphone screech, except whatever force is restoring equilibrium is doing so very slowly.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

If you really want to know about Gamergate, here's that ridiculous timeline again.
I'm sure it's still missing plenty of stuff.

I second the notion that hugs are great.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah there's nothing more to get, unfortunately. There's no deeper meaning, there's no value there. At some point early on there was actual debate about games journalism. I remember the discussions that eventually led to the jokes about Doritos pope and call backs to Gerstmann gate and how money and advertising was shaping the industry.

The minute feminism and that whole part got introduced is when the genuine discussion died and it became the cesspit of misogyny most are familiar with now and it blew up everywhere. The problem was that you couldn't tell who was still talking about ethics, and who was using the ethics discussion to further their screwed up agenda, effectively poisoning whatever merit that was ever there to begin with.

To see shit like those death threats and real life stalkers is disgusting. It's just so mindlessly appalling. Threatening people because they share your hobby, but like they different parts of it? Talk about the mentality of child.

There is a deeper meaning though, for people into psychology anyways. I would absolutely love to know what happened to these people and why they are the way they are. I mean you can just say that they are sexist and end it there, and thats fair and most people would be content with that answer, but the human mind, how it deals with things and how it shapes who you are is super complex. There are probably many factors that contributed to forming these people into out-there sexists with violent tendencies and understanding what caused them to be this way on a psychological level would be beneficial to everyone.

 

[aliengmr]

But they don't care how they look to the rest of the world and until their precious AAA developers actually start speaking out against them (not gonna happen) nothing will change.

Total agree with this but I have a feeling its too little too late.

Around the end of September and October there were quite a few gamers jumping on the bandwagon in fear of their games being censored by Anita's thought police. The AAA industry could have dealt a significant blow to these fears but chose not to.

They spoke up against the harassment, and stayed silent for the rest.

 

[The Technomancer]

There is a deeper meaning though, for people into psychology anyways. I would absolutely love to know what happened to these people and why they are the way they are. I mean you can just say that they are sexist and end it there, and thats fair and most people would be content with that answer, but the human mind, how it deals with things and how it shapes who you are is super complex. There are probably many factors that contributed to forming these people into out-there sexists with violent tendencies and understanding what caused them to be this way on a psychological level would be beneficial to everyone.

This is what happens in a positive feedback loop. I've had that on my mind a lot lately, the application of systems analysis to social behavior. I guarantee that almost no-one (almost) starts off as a hateful misogynist: what we see here is an emergent effect. You don't need to be a naturally hateful person, you just need to be fed hate in small doses by a community which you're also feeding small doses of hate into until the entire thing saturates and you have....this

 

[ArchedThunder]

This is what happens in a positive feedback loop. I've had that on my mind a lot lately, the application of systems analysis to social behavior. I guarantee that almost no-one (almost) starts off as a hateful misogynist: what we see here is an emergent effect. You don't need to be a naturally hateful person, you just need to be fed hate in small doses by a community which you're also feeding small doses of hate into until the entire thing saturates and you have....this

There is also the issue of what happened in their childhoods. It's not uncommon for men who hate women to be the way they are because of things their mother did when they were growing up, or a traumatic experience with a female teacher or really any number of things that the mind of a child has a hard time dealing with. There are so many factors at play when shaping a person's mind that it isn't always one thing that causes something.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

This is what happens in a positive feedback loop. I've had that on my mind a lot lately, the application of systems analysis to social behavior. I guarantee that almost no-one (almost) starts off as a hateful misogynist: what we see here is an emergent effect. You don't need to be a naturally hateful person, you just need to be fed hate in small doses by a community which you're also feeding small doses of hate into until the entire thing saturates and you have....this

It's also got a lot to do with shame.

People that support GG see that girls are scared and getting death threats and leaving the industry in droves... but they personally didn't cause that to happen. So it's not GGs fault.

It's exactly the reason why you'll see GGers calling out random Twitter feeds within the hashtag #GamerGate. They want someone to dox this or that person, but they don't want to be the one to do so.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Did you actually read what you quoted

Of course I did. I think it's an excellent example of what I'm talking about: the evocation of a stigmatized group or ideology to undergird a rhetorical attack on ideas or arguments that may not in fact be aligned with that stigmatized group or ideology. It's the weaponization of the guilt by association fallacy in order to associate a broad and polyphyletic set of arguments with the hated group.

 

[KingJ2002]

Hmmm... after reading that article... i can only say... i really don't care what the gender of the person is making the game... i really... really.. don't.

I do care about up and comers being scared out of the field due to a few who talk a lot but really aren't going to do shit.

but I do get that there are men out there that flat out don't want female involvement in the video game industry. Maybe some of those guys probably grew up being berated and rejected by girls... and the "nerdy" game industry was always their escape. Then they see women like Brianna, Anita, etc.... talking about more female involvement and they want no parts of it. Maybe they see it as these women are trying to bring "reality" into their "fantasy" and will do whatever it takes to stop them.

all straw grasping here... i'm not trying to justify but rather understand... because in my eyes.

I can only imagine Diversity in the workforce would make games better.... especially in titles where developers strive for realism but have no one to give first hand knowledge working along side them.

Games could take interactive media to new levels as far as influence... or make them so politically correct you can't stomach to look at the intro let alone play it.

either way... I wish i could tell those women who wrote in to not give up. Change doesn't happen over night, it doesn't happen by writing in how you feel and hoping someone else steps up... if you want real change you press on and continue to follow you dream and achieve it.

This isn't a situation like african americans and the early 1900's where there were laws stopping you.

It's up to you to show the world how dope you really are so they have no choice but to acknowledge you.

Fear can be irrational but mostly.. fear comes from a lack of understanding. If you understand yourself, your craft, and YOUR situation... you can overcome it.

Brianna still goes into work everyday... that should tell you to keep going.... So.... Keep going!

...

yeah... that's what i'd tell'em.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Of course I did. I think it's an excellent example of what I'm talking about: the evocation of a stigmatized group or ideology to undergird a rhetorical attack on ideas or arguments that may not in fact be aligned with that stigmatized group or ideology. It's the weaponization of the guilt by association fallacy in order to associate a broad and polyphyletic set of arguments with the hated group.

You're trying way too hard to sound smarter than everyone else in the room. Just have a simple discussion.

 

[The Technomancer]

Of course I did. I think it's an excellent example of what I'm talking about: the evocation of a stigmatized group or ideology to undergird a rhetorical attack on ideas or arguments that may not in fact be aligned with that stigmatized group or ideology. It's the weaponization of the guilt by association fallacy in order to associate a broad and polyphyletic set of arguments with the hated group.

Which part of it says that to you? The part about prioritizing your own feelings or opinions over the terrorizing of the targets?

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Of course I did. I think it's an excellent example of what I'm talking about: the evocation of a stigmatized group or ideology to undergird a rhetorical attack on ideas or arguments that may not in fact be aligned with that stigmatized group or ideology. It's the weaponization of the guilt by association fallacy in order to associate a broad and polyphyletic set of arguments with the hated group.

See

When you willing associate with a consumerism-based harassment group that claims it's about ethics in games journalism when all they do is harass indie devs/freelancers/anyone who questions them while ignoring AAA completely

you're guilty

 

[Nanashrew]

Of course I did. I think it's an excellent example of what I'm talking about: the evocation of a stigmatized group or ideology to undergird a rhetorical attack on ideas or arguments that may not in fact be aligned with that stigmatized group or ideology. It's the weaponization of the guilt by association fallacy in order to associate a broad and polyphyletic set of arguments with the hated group.

Read this tweet: https://twitter.com/desertfox899/status/565747351688445953

Trigger warning for some.

The one image where they say "they're not part of GG" is a tired old rhetoric, when in fact every one of those people are part of GamerGate. Harassment patrol doesn't exist, in fact they actively encourage it. Many GamerGaters actively share information with Baph, knowing full well that someone could one day die. None of them, PERIOD, have ever condemned these factions within GamerGate. If you do then you're censoring people and are ganged up on and maybe even kicked out. They use fear and peer pressure within their own movement.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

See

When you willing associate with a consumerism-based harassment group that claims it's about ethics in games journalism when all they do is harass indie devs/freelancers/anyone who questions them while ignoring AAA completely

you're guilty

But that's exactly my point: Lime's post was an explicit condemnation of people who don't associate with Gamergate at all.

 

[The Technomancer]

But that's exactly my point: Lime's post was an explicit condemnation of people who don't associate with Gamergate at all.

I mean, is this inaccurate?

or prioritizing your feelings or opinion over the terrorism of the female targets of Gamergate, or think it's important that you state your opinion without sitting down and educating yourself on this sensitive and toxic issue, then you are committing bigoted actions and contributing to sexism in video games, unwittingly or not.

Unwittingly is the key word there.

 

[Sinfamy]

I completely zoned out of the whole GamerGate thing.
Last thing I remember it was about biased reviews for a game because something with some chick.

 

[The Technomancer]

I completely zoned out of the whole GamerGate thing.
Last thing I remember it was about biased reviews for a game because something with some chick.

Completely false. Literal lies used as an excuse to harass and threaten her.

 

[Alienous]

In what sense?

If the who fiasco has made them fall out of love with the idea of being a game developer that is a truly sad thing. But "I won't pursue my dream because other people might not want me to" is a notion to which many people could justify giving up their dreams, even without GamerGate, and I'd urge people of the latter group to continue. With their involvement the industry will improve and GamerGate opinions will become quieter and quieter.

 

[Condom]

Isn't this all a big overreaction? All I read about GG just sounds like the internet at work, nothing special. Giving your dream up because of this is the most silly thing there is, your dream should be something that you're close to willing to die for (IMO).

 

[Cream]

Isn't this all a big overreaction? All I read about GG just sounds like the internet at work, nothing special. Giving your dream up because of this is the most silly thing there is, your dream should be something that you're close to willing to die for (IMO).

LITERALLY die for. As in, death threats. As in, people over the internet finding out where you live and getting dangerously close to killing you.

No, I don't think a dream is worth dying for.

 

[The Technomancer]

Isn't this all a big overreaction? All I read about GG just sounds like the internet at work, nothing special. Giving your dream up because of this is the most silly thing there is, your dream should be something that you're close to willing to die for (IMO).

This is a look at what one week of harassment directed at Anita Sarkeesian looks like:
http://femfreq.tumblr.com/post/109319269825/one-week-of-harassment-on-twitter

If that's unusual, then we should recognize that this isn't just the internet being its thing. And if it is usual holy shit thats revolting and should be unacceptable

 

[CambriaRising]

In what sense?

If the who fiasco has made them fall out of love with the idea of being a game developer that is a much sadder thing. But "I won't pursue my dream because other people might not want me to" is no excuse.

No, it's "I won't pursue my dream because other people might rape/kill/render me homeless/make me afraid to sign online if I do."

 

[SilverLunar]

LITERALLY die for. As in, death threats. As in, people over the internet finding out where you live and getting dangerously close to killing you.

No, I don't think a dream is worth dying for.

Why don't they get reported anyway? all i read in their feed is these death threats and how close to being harassed IRL but they never call the police for some reason.

 

[CambriaRising]

Why don't they get reported anyway? all i read in their feed is these death threats and how close to being harassed IRL but they never call the police for some reason.

Then you aren't paying attention because they have and the police don't give a shit.

But how about you victim blame some more.

 

[The Technomancer]

Why don't they get reported anyway? all i read in their feed is these death threats and how close to being harassed IRL but they never call the police for some reason.

They have called the police. And the FBI. There are ongoing investigations, whatever that means. There was like...that one guy who was arrested for SWATing last week. Aside from that the police just aren't going to pursue every person calling you a "dumbfuck whore cunt" and threatening to come to your house to rape your parents

 

[Toxi]

Why don't they get reported anyway? all i read in their feed is these death threats and how close to being harassed IRL but they never call the police for some reason.

They did call the police.

 

[Pau]

Why don't they get reported anyway? all i read in their feed is these death threats and how close to being harassed IRL but they never call the police for some reason.

Umm. Plenty of people have called the police and are working with them.