What your calling details is just the over-sharpening. It looks much more natural in the final, and has the same modeling etc.
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What your calling details is just the over-sharpening. It looks much more natural in the final, and has the same modeling etc.
that too
DarkLordMalik
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Dictator93
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The game was never "oversharpened." Oversharpened would be the witcher 3 images released a few months ago, or the default sharpening filter present in the witcher 2.
Rather, the game has desaturated and "unsharpened" since reveal. Likewise the have also color corrected a couple scnes to be more bluish / greyish.
You know they both look good, but the retail looks so fucking natural.
bananafactory
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Yeah definitely loving the final build.
GribbleGrunger
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I don't think the video quality is good enough to compare in these shots. You can quite clearly see that the new build has better lighting but if you look at the wrinkles on the up to date shots, they are blurry in comparison to the older shots. I've seen recent footage and details like that are NOT blurry. This tells me that they're comparing direct feed footage with Youtube footage. We've been here before.
bananafactory
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I don't think the video quality is good enough to compare in these shots. You can quite clearly see that the new build has better lighting but if you look at the wrinkles on the up to date shots, they are blurry in comparison to the older shots. I've seen recent footage and details like that are NOT blurry. This tells me that they're comparing direct feed footage with Youtube footage. We've been here before.
That's probably why you're losing some "detail" in things like the gun as well. Compression is blurring some of the textures
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i remember people bitching about the clipping in this scene now is fixed
It funny that the old build might look more impressive at first with the billowing skirt, but the new one looks more real
lt looks that way but look closely they are not exactly at the same frame/position so some things look like it's missing(The second row of slots/holes in the front of the gun)
Coulomb_Barrier
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I'm out the loop here. What impressions?
orthodoxy1095
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I was trying to figure out why the first build left a better impression. That's it, the billowing coat-thing. Has that "epic hero in the wind" trope about it. Definitely doesn't look as real as the second build.
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I don't think the video quality is good enough to compare in these shots. You can quite clearly see that the new build has better lighting but if you look at the wrinkles on the up to date shots, they are blurry in comparison to the older shots. I've seen recent footage and details like that are NOT blurry. This tells me that they're comparing direct feed footage with Youtube footage. We've been here before.
This what they are doing i think.
Lord Error
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A new video was leaked today which showed the February 2013 reveal area from the retail version. Here is a comparison.
Muted color ones are retail version. Probably post-processing added.
Wheres this video ? Sure looks similiar to twitter post months ago where supposedly it was made to look like a downgrade, but it was just different uniforms being used.
http://gearnuke.com/order-1886-dev-...nges-new-build-comparison-shows-improvements/
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@tiberiuslive those are "infiltration" uniforms, much more logical for combat - the full ceremonial ones are used in other places.
DarkLordMalik
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Sir Galahad is not farting in the new build
KoopaTheCasual
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Unlabeled, it looks like the "final build" came from a cutscene that you would see at a game reveal, and the "old build" would be the more achievable real-time finished product, complete with lowered lighting quality.
Pretty crazy that they're switched around in this case.
DarkLordMalik
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Comparison is between YouTube vs. Dailymotion. Direct-feed footage for both.I don't think the video quality is good enough to compare in these shots. You can quite clearly see that the new build has better lighting but if you look at the wrinkles on the up to date shots, they are blurry in comparison to the older shots. I've seen recent footage and details like that are NOT blurry. This tells me that they're comparing direct feed footage with Youtube footage. We've been here before.
Video was posted (and then removed by RAD) in the spoilers thread. It is from the retail version.
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Aww, not as cool wind/cloth physics in the final build.
GribbleGrunger
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Yes. You can also see how his hair loses detail too. We have seen recent footage and that detail is there in those. This isn't a fair comparison at all.
As a general reminder, both of the outfits being shown in those comparison gifs are in the game, and were not removed.
The reasoning isn't really a spoiler, but I'm putting it behind tags anyway just to be safe.
The reasoning isn't really a spoiler, but I'm putting it behind tags anyway just to be safe.
There's just an outfit change or two throughout the game, which you'll learn why from the story.
I actually watched both segments side by side when the leaked version was still online. Retail looks a lot better in motion imo. More atmospheric, more volume everywhere, no aliasing or shimmering where the old build still had some, plus the animations and eyes look much better in the new build. Gallahad had glassy eyes in the rooftop binoculars segment of the old build, whereas he looks realistic now. Likewise when Percival shoots the guy with the concussive shotgun, and then says "stopped for a pint did you?", that scene looks and sounds better in the retail build.
In the segment where they drag the injured police officer, there is shimmering and jaggies in the room that are gone in retail.
Lastly, the room where they break open the weapon caskets is more realistic lighting wise. When he pulls out a knife to lodge it open, it looks more photo realistic in the new build.
In the segment where they drag the injured police officer, there is shimmering and jaggies in the room that are gone in retail.
Lastly, the room where they break open the weapon caskets is more realistic lighting wise. When he pulls out a knife to lodge it open, it looks more photo realistic in the new build.
I think that's more due to the costume change than anything else. The infiltration gear seems to be heavier material than the more ornate one.Aww, not as cool wind/cloth physics in the final build.
I would not agree with this point SPECIFICALLY.
I have Panny plasma with colour setting already dialed down from factory specs (custom Game mode used) and colours palette is vivid and damn natural.
Always-honest
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More natural and less blackcrush. Sometimes also a bit too monochromatic, but still very refined in its use of colour.
In other vids of the latest build, there is more detail and variation in colour.
Amazing. Like looking at paintings of Rembrandt, Titiaan, Da Vinci, etc.
In other vids of the latest build, there is more detail and variation in colour.
Amazing. Like looking at paintings of Rembrandt, Titiaan, Da Vinci, etc.
Aww, not as cool wind/cloth physics in the final build.
Final is more natural. Look at the smoke, they're not standing in gale force winds.
Dictator93
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The SSS looks more evident, that is for certain.
My VT60 is so ready for this.
Thought about that after I posted. If so, then it's quite impressive if the suit's weigh actually has bearing on wind physics.
It's almost as if they are going for a specific tone/atmosphere.
viveks86
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A new video was leaked today which showed the February 2013 reveal area from the retail version. Here is a comparison.
Muted color ones are retail version. Probably post-processing added.
Looks like they fixed his freaky eyes. Interesting to see the changes in lighting and colors
GribbleGrunger
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I think that's the video quality mostly. It's not going to be as pale as that when you play, unless every bit of footage I've seen in the last couple of days has been 'enhanced' colour wise.
Haven't we learned by now that these comparisons are pointless? Driveclub/ISS were lessons to be learned, not ignored.
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Why do I have a feeling some people are going to claim downgrades in lighting with these... sigh :/
The muted colours and change in lighting fit better with the era and setting they are going for.
Primethius
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I'm loving the improvements. It looks absolutely fantastic.
Edit: I for one welcome the recent Sony trend of release games looking better then initial reveals.
Edit: I for one welcome the recent Sony trend of release games looking better then initial reveals.
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Game had much better use of color in the old build. Everything looks washed out now.
Cthulhu_Steev
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lol, hits nearly every button on the Dictator93 Wind-up Machine. Great work.
Pestilence11
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That didn't take long. The new build looks a lot more realistic and fits with the tone or theme of the game better.
nelsonroyale
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I disagree, the scene looks more consistent now. Contrast was a bit out of wack before I think. They have more post processing going on now I suppose.
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Begaria
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I can think of a particular site that will have a field day with this as well as certain youtubers.
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nice downgrade "game" looks terrible lol brown and grey: The Game
Wow. Game looks amazing, seriously!
TrojanBlade
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That is good news. Thank you RAD ... this is the most annoying thing in games for me. Dead or poor AI. And most devs don't even focus or put time to come up with decent A.I anymore. Most just focus on visuals to lure gamers w/o any substance.
About the old vs new build colors/lighting differences, I actually like some of the old ones better. I wish they have feature like we had in UC with different filters to unlock. I loved that feature to play with different filters.
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