NYTimes: "How one stupid tweet blew up Sacco's Life"

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SteveO409

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We've seen dozens of threads where a person makes a "dumb" tweet or remark and it slowly snowballs to the biggest trend on multiple forums/sites. NYtimes has an interesting piece on Sacco and others on how social media turned on them. What happens to you emotionally and physically? It's a good read if you have a few minutes to spare.

As she made the long journey from New York to South Africa, to visit family during the holidays in 2013, Justine Sacco, 30 years old and the senior director of corporate communications at IAC, began tweeting acerbic little jokes about the indignities of travel. There was one about a fellow passenger on the flight from John F. Kennedy International Airport:

“ ‘Weird German Dude: You’re in First Class. It’s 2014. Get some deodorant.’ — Inner monologue as I inhale BO. Thank God for pharmaceuticals.”

Then, during her layover at Heathrow:

“Chilly — cucumber sandwiches — bad teeth. Back in London!”

And on Dec. 20, before the final leg of her trip to Cape Town:

“Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS. Just kidding. I’m white!”

By the time Sacco had touched down, tens of thousands of angry tweets had been sent in response to her joke. Hannah, meanwhile, frantically deleted her friend’s tweet and her account — Sacco didn’t want to look — but it was far too late. “Sorry @JustineSacco,” wrote one Twitter user, “your tweet lives on forever.”

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By the time Sacco had touched down, tens of thousands of angry tweets had been sent in response to her joke. Hannah, meanwhile, frantically deleted her friend’s tweet and her account — Sacco didn’t want to look — but it was far too late. “Sorry @JustineSacco,” wrote one Twitter user, “your tweet lives on forever.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html
 

Jarmel

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“All I want for Christmas is to see @JustineSacco’s face when her plane lands and she checks her inbox/voicemail” and “Oh man, @JustineSacco is going to have the most painful phone-turning-on moment ever when her plane lands”

Goddamn this is vicious.

A Twitter user did indeed go to the airport to tweet her arrival. He took her photograph and posted it online. “Yup,” he wrote, “@JustineSacco HAS in fact landed at Cape Town International. She’s decided to wear sunnies as a disguise.”

This is some next level Twitter shaming.
 

DECK'ARD

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I remember that, was quite amusing her being on a plane while the shitstorm mounted below.

Director of communications as well, how stupid can you be.
 

SteveO409

Did you know Halo invented the FPS?
Goddamn this is vicious.



This is some next level Twitter shaming.

Yeah..the mob mentality is crazy

One person I met was Lindsey Stone, a 32-year-old Massachusetts woman who posed for a photograph while mocking a sign at Arlington National Cemetery’s Tomb of the Unknowns. Stone had stood next to the sign, which asks for “Silence and Respect,” pretending to scream and flip the bird. She and her co-worker Jamie, who posted the picture on Facebook, had a running joke about disobeying signs — smoking in front of No Smoking signs, for example — and documenting it. But shorn of this context, her picture appeared to be a joke not about a sign but about the war dead. Worse, Jamie didn’t realize that her mobile uploads were visible to the public.

Four weeks later, Stone and Jamie were out celebrating Jamie’s birthday when their phones started vibrating repeatedly. Someone had found the photo and brought it to the attention of hordes of online strangers. Soon there was a wildly popular “Fire Lindsey Stone” Facebook page. The next morning, there were news cameras outside her home; when she showed up to her job, at a program for developmentally disabled adults, she was told to hand over her keys. (“After they fire her, maybe she needs to sign up as a client,” read one of the thousands of Facebook messages denouncing her. “Woman needs help.”) She barely left home for the year that followed, racked by PTSD, depression and insomnia. “I didn’t want to be seen by anyone,” she told me last March at her home in Plymouth, Mass. “I didn’t want people looking at me.”
 

Jarmel

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I met a man who, in early 2013, had been sitting at a conference for tech developers in Santa Clara, Calif., when a stupid joke popped into his head. It was about the attachments for computers and mobile devices that are commonly called dongles. He murmured the joke to his friend sitting next to him, he told me. “It was so bad, I don’t remember the exact words,” he said. “Something about a fictitious piece of hardware that has a really big dongle, a ridiculous dongle. . . . It wasn’t even conversation-level volume.”

Moments later, he half-noticed when a woman one row in front of them stood up, turned around and took a photograph. He thought she was taking a crowd shot, so he looked straight ahead, trying to avoid ruining her picture. It’s a little painful to look at the photograph now, knowing what was coming.

The woman had, in fact, overheard the joke. She considered it to be emblematic of the gender imbalance that plagues the tech industry and the toxic, male-dominated corporate culture that arises from it. She tweeted the picture to her 9,209 followers with the caption: “Not cool. Jokes about . . . ‘big’ dongles right behind me.” Ten minutes later, he and his friend were taken into a quiet room at the conference and asked to explain themselves. Two days later, his boss called him into his office, and he was fired.

Good lord, this is completely fucking ridiculous. That's not even the best part:
The woman who took the photograph, Adria Richards, soon felt the wrath of the crowd herself. The man responsible for the dongle joke had posted about losing his job on Hacker News, an online forum popular with developers. This led to a backlash from the other end of the political spectrum. So-called men’s rights activists and anonymous trolls bombarded Richards with death threats on Twitter and Facebook. Someone tweeted Richards’s home address along with a photograph of a beheaded woman with duct tape over her mouth. Fearing for her life, she left her home, sleeping on friends’ couches for the remainder of the year.

Next, her employer’s website went down. Someone had launched a DDoS attack, which overwhelms a site’s servers with repeated requests. SendGrid, her employer, was told the attacks would stop if Richards was fired. The next day she was publicly let go.

Just a cycle of people overreacting to each other.
 
That last tweet sounds like it could be an old Daniel Tosh bit. Or even an Amy Schumer joke. Comics like Louis CK have to spend years building up their rep before they can get away with that kind of irreverent humor. Regular folks should have more sense than to try.

I swear, Louis CK and Patrice O'neal had some jokes that you could get fired just explaining that you laughed at them, lol.
 
“Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS. Just kidding. I’m white!”

man this is the kind of joke you only tell your best best best friend of forty years, and hope he/she isn't offended
 

vypek

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Twitter really screws people over, huh? Seems to be more destructive for people than any other social network.

EDIT: I'm very surprised that there was such a reaction to the dongle joke. And the backlash against that woman was crazy as well
 

skybald

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man this is the kind of joke you only tell your best best best friend of forty years, and hope he/she isn't offended
If you are a conplete prude, maybe. Joke is hardly offensive, even if it isn't worded well or actually funny.

I wish people could take a joke.

I don't know why people make big deals out of a stranger's account content in the first place.

Stop getting people fired from their jobs for a few seconds of their life, which is permanently documented, because you don't necessarily agree with the content. It makes no sense as a punishment to try to have someone fired from their job when it had nothing to do with their job
 
"Senior director of corporate communications". Quite the high-end job for a 30yr old who made such statements. Must've sucked that major D to get that high up so early.
 
Good lord, this is completely fucking ridiculous. That's not even the best part:


Just a cycle of people overreacting to each other.

I remember reading this when it happened and ignoring the ridiculous and unwarranted twitter mobbing both parties received, that woman needed to learn to take a joke. Or at the least learn that things plugged into computers are, in fact, actually called dongles
 

Resilient

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Re: the guy who made the dongle joke - I have to ask whether it is worth getting somebody fired for that. Like, it just seems way excessive. Far out.
 

terrisus

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“Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS. Just kidding. I’m white!”

facepalm.jpg


What part of that would have ever seemed like a good thing to say?
 

Mrmartel

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The internet is a dangerous place. I wonder how many other people will be destroyed?

Remember kids, once your a professional or have a career, do not put anything on the internet. Except for photos from that trip to Disneyland.
 

Metroidvania

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Re: the guy who made the dongle joke - I have to ask whether it is worth getting somebody fired for that. Like, it just seems way excessive. Far out.

I mean, I doubt the lady was explicitly trying to get him fired, she was trying to shame him with the current culture of the tech industry, sure, but I doubt she made it knowing he'd be fired.


The cycle of shaming and out of control context is crazy, but on some level, the increased public awareness means increased public scrutiny. Gotta take steps to protect your privacy if you're gonna say stuff only your friends will get.

I mean, why would you make this comment when this topic is about people making stupid comments online?

Lol, this.
 

terrisus

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She was obviously trying to be funny. She failed. Not a reason to lose her job.

If people think getting AIDS is funny, or that somehow one's race excludes them from getting AIDS is funny, that's pretty stupid.
Would you want someone who says stupid things running your company?
 

Cipherr

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She was obviously trying to be funny. She failed. Not a reason to lose her job.

That isn't for you to decide. Clearly. Someone in the company she worked for disagreed. Theres a million ways to be funny without saying something so goddamned stupid, but if you can't seem to find one, don't be upset at the reality of it possibly costing you something.

I absolutely abhor this generation of people who pretend that the internet is some alternate reality, and that nothing you do or say on it should ever have consequences in the real world. If I made that joke during a television interview on a weekend I could and would absolutely be disciplined or possibly fired for saying something that stupid in a place where it was broadcast to the world.

Same situation here, except the internet allows anyone to broadcast their nonsense, so be careful I suppose.
 

Fuchsdh

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Just a cycle of people overreacting to each other.

Pretty much.

The thing I always try and think about whenever I read something "outrageous" or whatever online is that very often you're seeing just a tiny sliver of someone's life, and as stupid as some of their comments might have been, it's just as foolish and hypocritical to nail them to the wall for those little things.

All of those are factual. So yes.

And you will invariably slip up at least once, if not multiple times. I guess I hope you don't actually have the internet pop up to beat on you someday.
 

Mrmartel

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Re: the guy who made the dongle joke - I have to ask whether it is worth getting somebody fired for that. Like, it just seems way excessive. Far out.

It came back to bite her in the ass a year later. She got fired as well, because the guy's story gathered sympathy from the corners of the web.
 
If people think getting AIDS is funny, or that somehow one's race excludes them from getting AIDS is funny, that's pretty stupid.
Would you want someone who says stupid things running your company?

Terry you're gonna have to show some credentials if you wanna to tell people what is funny and what isn't.
 

bsod

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She was obviously trying to be funny. She failed. Not a reason to lose her job.

Not that anyone will put the tweet in the context of her timeline, but they should

If you work in IT and you introduce a virus inside the corporate environment, you lose your job. If you're the director of communications and you got caught saying offensive shit that makes your company look bad, why should the outcome be different?
 
If people think getting AIDS is funny, or that somehow one's race excludes them from getting AIDS is funny, that's pretty stupid.
Would you want someone who says stupid things running your company?

the tweet is mocking white privilege and ignorance of many whites in regards to africa and aids, she's saying the opposite of what your claiming.

Her family was ANC supporters and racial equality activists. People saw a joke completly devoid of context (she meant the opposite) and ruined her life because they felt the need to shame someone who didn't do anything but make a joke.
 
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