Would it be a good idea for Sony to buy Capcom for over $1.1 billion?

Added a link in them buying stake in Capcom (which would probably be the more realistic route if the wanted some type of exclusivity).

But again, if Capcom is willing to make SFV exclusive to Sony without that kind of deal, it's probably not necessary. But in Sony's interests, getting Resident Evil and Monster Hunter on just their systems would be a great boon.
 
Quavillion said:
Sony is a TECH company not a video game one... I'm out of this thread as I have better things to do today than read posts from misinformed people.
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I don't recall anybody saying they were anything but a tech company, but whatever.

As for misinformed, I guess if looking over and reading quarterly reports and business analysis is misinformed, then, okay.
 
I don't think there is much of a chance for this, but if they did it would be (in my opinion) in large part because they wanted to actually try to make a dent into the handheld market. Monster Hunter as an exclusive would be a pretty big get. Also, just curious, what is the IP ownership of Ace Attorney? Does Nintendo own the rights, does Capcom, does Nintendo have an exclusivity deal?

If I were Sony and I wanted to invest money into some studios, I'd get Capcom and Level 5. No brainers are also Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream and Housemarque, but those studios already make games pretty much only for Sony.

But imagine if the next Sony handheld had a new Monster Hunter and Youkai Watch game with proper funding from Sony. That could compete with whatever Nintendo would offer - not beat, but it would at least compete.

Granted, I don't like the idea of taking games away from other platforms if it isn't "necessary" or very healthy for both parties, but I could live with this.
 
Some people really can't tell the difference between losing money & having no money.

How hard can it be to understand the difference?
 
ForsakenLotus said:
I don't think there is much of a chance for this, but if they did it would be (in my opinion) in large part because they wanted to actually try to make a dent into the handheld market. Monster Hunter as an exclusive would be a pretty big get. Also, just curious, what is the IP ownership of Ace Attorney? Does Nintendo own the rights, does Capcom, does Nintendo have an exclusivity deal?

If I were Sony and I wanted to invest money into some studios, I'd get Capcom and Level 5. No brainers are also Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream and Housemarque, but those studios already make games pretty much only for Sony.

But imagine if the next Sony handheld had a new Monster Hunter and Youkai Watch game with proper funding from Sony. That could compete with whatever Nintendo would offer - not beat, but it would at least compete.

Granted, I don't like the idea of taking games away from other platforms if it isn't "necessary" or very healthy for both parties, but I could live with this.
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Lol, so basically "Buy all the 3rd party studios making popular 3DS games"
 
Prine said:
Sony have little money, and no, stay away from capcom. They should remain 3rd psrty
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They could pay Capcom if they wanted to, but it's not going to happen. They should remain as a third party pub/dev.

This thread is just fun speculation. What if Capcom was in a position to sell? Would Sony buy them? Could they use the IPs? etc.
 
TheMasterGoblin said:
They could pay Capcom if they wanted to, but it's not going to happen. They should remain as a third party pub/dev.

This thread is just fun speculation. What if Capcom was in a position to sell? Would Sony buy them? Could they use the IPs? etc.
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Well then it's more a debate of what's more important, an IP or the people behind it? Because maybe buying Capcom 10 years ago would've been awesome, but today's Capcom lacks Kamiya, Mikami, and Inafune. They're a shell of their former selves
 
BeatResetsTheWorld said:
Well then it's more a debate of what's more important, an IP or the people behind it? Because maybe buying Capcom 10 years ago would've been awesome, but today's Capcom lacks Kamiya, Mikami, and Inafune. They're a shell of their former selves
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This is true and probably a major factor in the IPs losing popularity. Which if Sony could buy Capcom (for the stealing price of $1.1 billion), take what good talent remains and give the IPs to their talented studios, it would be very interesting to say the least.
 
RE and DMC exclusive will generate sufficient tears on here, so that's enough. And they won't need a billion to do that. I hope it happens, this gen is boring so far with no megatonz.
 
I think exclusives have a good side and bad. It would be nice if Capcom was bought if they could take more time and budget their productions higher. I would narrow down what system to buy the games on. It's bad if the talent and IP collection goes to waste like in Rareware's case.
 
Don't you generally have to pay a decent premium over market share price in order to buy a company outright? Pretty sure it'd cost over $1.1 billion even if that's the market cap.
 
Deadpool_X said:
Sony can't afford Capcom. They are shutting down and selling parts of themselves just to stay afloat, and their credit is listed as "junk" by almost every major creditor. I hate to say it, but I would be shocked if Sony is still around in 10 years.
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A bit harsh..
I concur with you that they cannot afford another failed console (i love my vita but sales are... Ughhhh)..
If they produce another console that does poorly, be it a vita successor, or when time comes ps5, then yeah they're done..
 
witchedwiz said:
A bit harsh..
I concur with you that they cannot afford another failed console (i love my vita but sales are... Ughhhh)..
If they produce another console that does poorly, be it a vita successor, or when time comes ps5, then yeah they're done..
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Their financials and outlook are completely different. The entire company has returned to profitability and is now almost completely profitable per division.

They got rid of divisions to focus and set themselves up for the future, which is now pretty bright overall.

The Vita is the only console so far to have "failed" and even that technically has a few years to regain profitability (if they are even losing money on it right now, and especially if they can keep using the tech as they are in the PSTV).
 
Man I just want capcom to have the freedom to take risks with their goldmine of old ips. As they are now those great ips are gonna be dormant indefinitely.
 
They would have to layoff a big portion of Capcom's publishing business since they aready have their own and many jobs wpuld be redundant.
 
AngryMoth said:
Cheaper alternative; just pay them $50 mil or so to make monster hunter 5 for ps4. Japan console market saved.
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The whole point of Monster Hunter is playing anywhere if your friends. MH started on PS2 and didn't do good that's why it moved on the PSP. And if it's isn't enough MH was also released on PS3, Wii and WiiU and sold far less then on handheld.
 
TheMasterGoblin said:
That's for the whole fiscal year were they had losses from the first couple quarters. They have been profitable since and look good going forward.
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Yes, they've had a whopping one quarter of profitability (we assume, anyways, seeing as they delayed reporting 3rd Quarter results); they're still a long way from being financially healthy.

And I made a typo earlier; this year's loss is $1.7 billion, not million.
 
TheRedSnifit said:
Yes, they've had a whopping one quarter of profitability (we assume, anyways, seeing as they delayed reporting 3rd Quarter results); they're still a long way from being financially healthy.

And I made a typo earlier; this year's loss is $1.7 billion, not million.
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At this point It's the trend that is important, not the number of quarters. They are on an upward swing for profitability. Why do you think they have been restructuring? They have been trimming the fat which takes time and money.

The quarter is fairly accurate, all they have to do is special accounting for the pictures hack (which is why they delayed the "official" results until end of march), otherwise it should be accurate.

Keep in mind that a lot of their losses right now come from the shuttering of their PC division (which cost them 39 billion yen in the most recent quarter alone).
 
I always thought it was worth it.

Sony DESPERATELY needs to strengthen its ailing Japanese game development brand.

A Capcom acquisition would definitely do that and then some.
 
Rogue_Ledr said:
I always thought it was worth it.

Sony DESPERATELY needs to strengthen its ailing Japanese game development brand.

A Capcom acquisition would definitely do that and then some.
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it isn't 1995 anymore. the japanese market is a footnote compared to the US/EU/Developing world.
 
All Sony needs right now is 3d fighter first party fighter and a a big budget jrpg (don't count bloodborne as one) other than that they are pretty much covered with the shooters, big budget movie type games, scifi, and indie like games. I honestly would prefer if all three consoles had a massive number of studios that could cover all the genre bases with a couple of niche games to fill in their lineup. Capcom to Nintendo, Square and insomniac to Sony, and Sega to Microsoft.( i would say EA but it feels like that would be cheating). All out first party free for all on the console front sounds amazing.
 
Manmademan said:
it isn't 1995 anymore. the japanese market is a footnote compared to the US/EU/Developing world.
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That is not the point.

Regardless of how strong the Japanese market itself is, there are still some great developers in that country that are languishing.

Sony could harness that untapped potential.
 
TheRedSnifit said:
They're predicting a $1.7 billion loss for this year, and they're planning on cutting over 2000 jobs by 2016.
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Point of order, Sony are predicting a 170bn net loss for the year, but they are booking 330bn yen worth of impairments in the mobile (Xperia) and now defunct laptop divisions.

Without booking those losses Sony would have been plenty profitable. There are analysts out there who believe Sony will make at least 500bn yen operating profit for 15/16, though the forecast may come in lower than that. There is nothing left to impair and none of the divisions lose money on an ongoing basis.
 
All I know is that Capcom is one of my favourite publishers and have a solid block of franchises. I think all 3 hardware manufacturers should contemplate a purchase if they could afford it!
 
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