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[TerryLee81]

Poor kid

On a sidenote, should he be playing Destiny with 11 years old? Parents should watch better what their kids play.

 

[Flachmatuch]

When everyone involved in the situation understands that this is a possible consequence of their actions, I can't even imagine what problem you, someone who has absolutely nothing to do with this, could reasonably have.

Who deleted your Minecraft server?

My problem is with the malevolent and bullying way the guy abuses his power, not with the policy.

10/10 Would read again. Keep fighting that good fight, man. Hopefully, some day you'll understand that, in this world, there needs to be enforcers to keep everything from falling into pure anarchy.

Yep, the typical argument that I here when petty little people get community power and abuse it for their own fun.

 

[dubq]

Reminds me a little of when I used to catch kids playing minecraft on our school computers. I would remote into their machines, and immediately run their character into lava pools or oceans, making them loose all their equipment. If I caught the same kid doing it again, I would delete their world, all while laughing maniacally, imagining their screams of horror. I mean, you can play Minecraft all day at home...at school, you're in my playground, and you deal with my rules.

Nah, I get what you're doing. I have no problems with you running their characters into lava. It's the "my playground, my rules" thing that makes you sound like a douchebag.

 

[Deadpool_X]

Dude cmon, dont act like when you were a kid if someone deleted your save you wouldnt of gone absolutely nuclear.

I dont think the kid is viewing minecraft as more important than school. Hes being a KID.

Let's be clear, here...I'm not talking about doing this to elementary school kids. This is a problem we had en mass at our high schools. These were students 14-18.

 

[King Gilga]

Reminds of a story the Sysnet admin of the place I work for told me. He used to do work for a school and noticed an abnormally large amount of traffic coming from a computer lab he walked over there and it turned out some kids had brought Halo in on a flash drive and were in the middle of an online multiplayer match (in a computer lab that was only to be used for school work). He walked up behind them and shut of their computers and then told their teacher what they had been doing.

Now that guy seems like a dick.

Should've just thrown MC in lava or something instead.

 

[bomblord1]

Dude cmon, dont act like when you were a kid if someone deleted your save you wouldnt of gone absolutely nuclear.

I dont think the kid is viewing minecraft as more important than school. Hes being a KID.

When I was in school that kind of stuff could be met with expulsion.

I think he's letting them off easy and teaching them rules in a much more impactful way. It's a minecraft world we're talking about here, a video game, not the end of the world. The kid had fun got caught and received consequences. Of course the kids going to be upset but he had a warning and he knew what he was getting into by repeatedly skirting around the rules.

 

[dearodie]

That's just you acting like a kid and having fun. An open warning is an email.



I'm not talking about Minecraft and the actual consequences. I don't care about that. It is your power-abusing behaviour that's the problem and you should be fired for that.



Bullshit. You are hiding behind your power and the school rules. You are a petty asshole that should not hold that job. "Disobey" and "my rules"...authoritarian asshole that should not be amongst kids.



This is not "holier than thou" bullshit, it's basic pedagogy and decency, moron. You are not fit for this job. I don't like to fire people except for your kind.



Bullshit. You are having fun with bullying kids. You even said "my rules" ffs. You are simply a power abusing asshole, nothing else. Absolutely *not* fit for a school job.

Speaking of rules, you do know that insulting other forum members is a ban-able offense. Nothing to do with holy here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428781

Playing minecraft or whatever else on school property during school hours is an issue.
If you get caught, you had some fun, be gracious and accept the consequences.

 

[FriendlyGoat]

Please read all my posts before commenting. Students and parents are fully aware of the rules, and a warning shot (including a trip to the principal's office) is fired before world deletion occurs.

Yes, yes, all that was already covered when he said you hide behind the rules which you are continuing to do. I don't think people have a problem with following the rules and meting out appropriate punishments. If that is your job, fine. That is reasonable.

What I'm interested in is your defense/reasoning for, quote "laughing maniacally, imagining their screams of horror" or claiming that "at school, you're in my playground, and you deal with my rules." That is the problematic, and frankly kind of disturbing, part.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Of course, it's funny for kids and twenty year olds. But when it's a job for which they get power which they abuse for their own fun, it's a different issue.

I'm not seeing that much of an issue of the guy doing this to kids playing games in school. They shouldn't be doing this they should be ready to face the consequences. But then again when I was a kid in high school I didn't play shit in school.

 

[i plays game lol]

Although the kid went away so didn't see the guy delete both his characters, he was there to see his exotic gun get deleted.

If you share play with someone and they take control there needs to be a one button press to take back immediate control.

or you could, you know, not share with complete strangers

 

[BajiBoxer]

As for the dude in the op, I hope he gets banned as he's just bullying a child. Hopefully the kid learns that a game isn't worth crying over in hindsight. I think a lot of us have had that moment as kids where someone has deleted a save or some technical issue has fucked things up, followed by some bawling. Not sure how I'd deal with the social aspect though of this happening with a bunch of viewers. That's not something I grew up with.

 

[Dehnus]

His parents really have no room to counterargue.

And they wonder why nobody likes gamers?😈

 

[BokehKing]

Speaking of rules, you do know that insulting other forum members is a ban-able offense. Nothing to do with holy here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428781

Playing minecraft or whatever else on school property during school hours is an issue.
If you get caught, you had some fun, be gracious and accept the consequences.

Yeah... You're going to last long here


As for your "warnings' to students, why not do what regular teachers do and kick them out of class instead of being malicious with world deleting.

You shouldn't be playing mine craft either.

 

[urge26]

Knowing the time I've put into my characters, that is seriously fucked up. Doesn't matter if it's a kid, or yeah know, Destiny sucks, or you shouldn't play with strangers whatever. That really is sad. People are dicks.

 

[BokehKing]

I'm not seeing that much of an issue of the guy doing this to kids playing games in school. They shouldn't be doing this they should be ready to face the consequences. But then again when I was a kid in high school I didn't play shit in school.

Not even carmen sandiego and Oregon Trail?

 

[Coins]

That's just you acting like a kid and having fun. An open warning is an email.



I'm not talking about Minecraft and the actual consequences. I don't care about that. It is your power-abusing behaviour that's the problem and you should be fired for that.



Bullshit. You are hiding behind your power and the school rules. You are a petty asshole that should not hold that job. "Disobey" and "my rules"...authoritarian asshole that should not be amongst kids.



This is not "holier than thou" bullshit, it's basic pedagogy and decency, moron. You are not fit for this job. I don't like to fire people except for your kind.



Bullshit. You are having fun with bullying kids. You even said "my rules" ffs. You are simply a power abusing asshole, nothing else. Absolutely *not* fit for a school job.

Wow. Lol. I can picture you going into full freak out behind your keyboard.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Speaking of rules, you do know that insulting other forum members is a ban-able offense. Nothing to do with holy here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428781

Yeah. I couldn't help myself because I hate this kind of behaviour so much.

Playing minecraft or whatever else on school property during school hours is an issue. If you get caught, you had some fun, be gracious and accept the consequences.

Absolutely. I was talking about the "obey my rules" bullshit.

Wow. Lol. I can picture you going into full freak out behind your keyboard.

No shit. This kind of behaviour (little people thinking of power granted to them by the community as *their own personal power they can abuse for fun*) is absolutely infuriating.

I'm not seeing that much of an issue of the guy doing this to kids playing games in school. They shouldn't be doing this they should be ready to face the consequences. But then again when I was a kid in high school I didn't play shit in school.

I'm not talking about the school rules. I'm talking about people using these rules to have fun and, again, looking at this issue as their own playground.

What I'm interested in is your defense/reasoning for, quote "laughing maniacally, imagining their screams of horror" or claiming that "at school, you're in my playground, and you deal with my rules." That is the problematic, and frankly kind of disturbing, part.

Exactly. And I know this kind of petty idiot through indirect experience (I'm a software developer developing education/business related software). Yeah, I read BOFH, like, what, twenty years ago? But I found even that annoying.

 

[catbrush]

10/10 Would read again. Keep fighting that good fight, man. Hopefully, some day you'll understand that, in this world, there needs to be enforcers to keep everything from falling into pure anarchy.

Have you read your own posts? You're acting unprofessional and antagonizing kids. You are escalating conflicts (WITH CHILDREN) to let off steam at work. Simply reporting the student and deleting the software is all that is necessary.

You are power tripping off of the emotions of kids. Grow up.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Not even carmen sandiego and Oregon Trail?

Ok well I'm only 24 but I'm a big boy now. GAFing while at work and errthang. Hypocrisy? Maybe but I'm using my data plan not company wifi.

 

[dearodie]

Yeah... You're going to last long here


As for your "warnings' to students, why not do what regular teachers do and kick them out of class instead of being malicious with world deleting.

You shouldn't be playing mine craft either.

lol, maybe ... not.
I'm merely drawing a parallel there are rules everywhere and consequences.

 

[flatearthpandas]

My problem is with the malevolent and bullying way the guy abuses his power, not with the policy.

Your problem is just that he enjoys it? I don't think that changes anything. You could find it distasteful, but as long as he is acting under an agreed upon process that admin, students, and parents are all aware of and agreed to, I have no idea how it can be considered abuse of power.

It seems like students, parents, school admins, fucking everybody involved here understands what is going down. If anything, the joke is probably more on him than anyone else because high school kids aren't complete morons and if they understand the situation, which they should from peer stories if absolutely nothing else, they are not investing themselves into the worlds. If there wasn't a trip to the principal and eventual ISS accompanying the penalties, this would be the most ineffective and harmless way to enforce the rules I could imagine. Well, besides "sending an email like a real adult."

Are you sure we shouldn't be more upset at the school district for handing out ISS? Guaranteed that has a greater negative effect on these kids' lives than having a throwaway Minecraft world get deleted.

 

[Deadpool_X]

Yes, yes, all that was already covered when he said you hide behind the rules which you are continuing to do. I don't think people have a problem with following the rules and meting out appropriate punishments. If that is your job, fine. That is reasonable.

What I'm interested in is your defense/reasoning for, quote "laughing maniacally, imagining their screams of horror" or claiming that "at school, you're in my playground, and you deal with my rules." That is the problematic, and frankly kind of disturbing, part.

Ok, I took poetic liberties to add color and flavor to the story. I apologize for embellishing, because truth be told, I never laughed maniacally, nor did I imagine their screams of terror. Those comments were added, as I mentioned, to add flavor to the word picture soup I was creating.

 

[JBourne]

Yeah... You're going to last long here

He's been here longer than you.

 

[BabyFaceKillah]

i lol'd


it sucks but kid had to learn that day

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Ok, I took poetic liberties to add color and flavor to the story. I apologize for embellishing, because truth be told, I never laughed maniacally, nor did I imagine their screams of terror. Those comments were added, as I mentioned, to add flavor to the word picture soup I was creating.

I would approve at you laughing maniacally and making kids cower. would make for a great show. They tell these horror stories in a campfire.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Dude, this is a school, this determines who succeeds in life. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain. You lay another birch wood plank, and you're entering a world of pain. HAS THE WORLD GONE CRAZY? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?! Uninstall the game! Uninstall the game! YOU THINK I'M FUCKING AROUND HERE?! UNINSTALL THE GAME!

 

[Chastten]

So, some random kid loses some progress in a videogame, big deal.

No different then losing my full pokedex when i lent pokemon red to my cousin back in the 90s.

 

[Rockandrollclown]

Sucks for the kid, but two valuable lessons were learned. 1.) Cheating is bad, 2.) Never trust strangers with any kind of online enabled account.

 

[flaxknuckles]

And justice was served! Don't cheat in online games guys.

 

[Irishmantis]

Please dont tell me im the only one who cant stop laughing hahahaha

im going to hell

 

[QuantumZebra]

How can someone do this to someone else, especially a young kid? Obviously the kid was in the wrong, but some people suck.

Refer to Gamergate for an example on how terrible people can be to innocent people for no reason at all

 

[dream]

If nothing else, Deadpool is teaching the kids a valuable lesson in perspective. It's just a video game, after all.

 

[shandy706]

Will you ever introduce her to Dark Souls? The ultimate lesson in not giving up

LOL, well she's certainly allowed to try it out when she's old enough.

Giving up in Souls games isn't something I'd do. Now getting absolutely bored out of my mind while playing, that's another thing.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Ok, I took poetic liberties to add color and flavor to the story. I apologize for embellishing, because truth be told, I never laughed maniacally, nor did I imagine their screams of terror. Those comments were added, as I mentioned, to add flavor to the word picture soup I was creating.

You used those expressions as a metaphor to describe your enjoyment, obviously. I never thought you actually did any of that. But when you are using power granted to you by a community, you must do it with respect, especially when you're among kids. When you are harming someone with community power, you must do it according to the rules, not for your own enjoyment.

Also, I've been a software developer for a while (more than twenty years now that I think about it...ugh) and I've met a few sysadmins, and this kind of power abuse and even pride and boasting about it is pretty common. I do not actually have a problem with it in some situations, but with schools, it's very different. Go ahead and fuck with your boss or some head honcho in a corporation if you want, I'll stand right behind you and support you. But do not abuse your power on people who are less powerful than you, which kids by definition are, and towards whom you have a responsibility. Do not decide how to educate and punish schoolchildren by yourself. Do not hide behind rules when using your power on someone smaller.

And never ever think of power granted to you by a community as your own and your area of responsibility as your playground. That was what your post came across as and that is what infuriates me.

 

[Spuck-uk]

Kid deserved it.

Deadpool_x sounds kinda pathetic tbh, king of his own little sandcastle.

 

[EL CUCO]

I'm not seeing that much of an issue of the guy doing this to kids playing games in school. They shouldn't be doing this they should be ready to face the consequences. But then again when I was a kid in high school I didn't play shit in school.

I'm still waiting to get my old beeper back from my High-school English teacher

Spoiler

It's been almost 20 years

 

[Anton Sugar]

So, some random kid loses some progress in a videogame, big deal.

No different then losing my full pokedex when i lent pokemon red to my cousin back in the 90s.

It's a good thing you've moved on

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I'm still waiting to get my old beeper back from my High-school English teacher

Spoiler

It's been almost 20 years

he's beeping on it all night long. Laughing like maniac.

 

[NervousXtian]

I'm still waiting to get my old beeper back from my High-school English teacher

Spoiler

It's been almost 20 years

How many times did you page him (yourphonenumber)*911*911?

You should try one more time.

 

[Avari]

Kid got what he deserved. Giving control of his system to a stranger for the purpose of cheating. I can't believe the "that poor kid" comments.

Personally I find comments like this gross for their lack of basic compassion and empathy. Honestly I find it troubling that anyone would find this funny. Anyone not factoring in the age of the kid seems lacking in reasoning. There's a reason young children are generally less culpable for offences. Lessons can be taught in more age appropriate ways. Given someone control like this is not a reason or excuse for them to act in such a way. Messing with other users in such a way should lead to a console and user ban.

 

[pvpness]

Man, I sympathize with the kid, cause finding out what life on earth really is, that young, fucking sucks. This is a good thing tho. Cheaters never win and strangers will sell you into slavery.

Also if you guys think Deadpool is bad then you're going to think I'm a monster. If I got one phone call from the principal saying my 10 old son was playing Minecraft (a game he loves) at school, he would find all his worlds deleted at home, without mercy. He'd also lose video game privileges full stop until he could prove that he can handle such luxuries responsibly.

School is important, video games are not.

 

[Alebrije]

I lost RPJ savedata when was a kid, my 10 years old kid lost Terraria data and felt sad but just that. When my kid started playing videogames the first thing I told him is that videogames are for FUN, if a videogame made him feel like crying he will stop playing them. He learned very well that rule and now every time time he lost on a game match ,lost data or other "friends" are bulling him at Minecraft he knows its "just" a videogames. Also teached him that online "friends" are not real friends, are just partners.

I feel sorry for that kid and I really hope there is a way to track Kermitthe frog and the other guy and ban them, the internet do not need that kind of scum.

 

[Mihos]

This kind of thing happened to one of my kids in Runescape when he was like 12. It was a better life lesson than more than 20 lectures I could have given. Better find out people suck in a video game than on the street.

 

[Iorv3th]

The code of online conduct that we have every student sign at the beginning of every year clearly states that using school property for any means other than school work is prohibited, and that, if caught, students are subject to punishment, up to and including the deletion of software. The school board has agreed on this, as has the teachers union, the district and building administrators; and the Director of Technology has my back and agrees with the punishment. Every student and their guardians sign this form on a yearly basis. What I do is, in every way, validated. Go fly your injustice flag elsewhere, because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about in this situation.

Couldn't you just block them from installing anything through group policy? I work at a school as well and only problems I have had was from the previous guy not setting up group policy correctly and allowing them to install anything on the computers.

That's just you acting like a kid and having fun. An open warning is an email.


I'm not talking about Minecraft and the actual consequences. I don't care about that. It is your power-abusing behaviour that's the problem and you should be fired for that.


Bullshit. You are hiding behind your power and the school rules. You are a petty asshole that should not hold that job. "Disobey" and "my rules"...authoritarian asshole that should not be amongst kids.


This is not "holier than thou" bullshit, it's basic pedagogy and decency, moron. You are not fit for this job. I don't like to fire people except for your kind.


Bullshit. You are having fun with bullying kids. You even said "my rules" ffs. You are simply a power abusing asshole, nothing else. Absolutely *not* fit for a school job.

I don't know what your so mad about. Often times the person in that position is the one that sets the rules governing technology use when it's the schools property.

 

[Auto-Reply]

This kid may grow up becoming a powerful hacker and destroying everyones Destiny 2/3 progress/saves... lesson learned indeed!

 

[MikeyB]

I don't know what your so mad about. Often times the person in that position is the one that sets the rules governing technology use when it's the schools property.

Based on how the story was told, no rules had been set or explained and the guy was making it up on the fly with what appears to be a hostile objective of teaching those little shits a lesson. Hardly how authority should work in democratic societies.

 

[Flachmatuch]

I don't know what your so mad about.

Especially in schools, rules and their enforcement should be open and clear, not for the enjoyment of the person who executes them. This is petty, vindictive, king-of-my-castle behaviour, which WILL be learned by the kids it affects. If this was not about a school but a corporation and the poster wasn't writing about schoolkids but his bosses, I may even have enjoyed the story and supported it. But children are weaker than you and you have a responsibility for them - and I missed this sense from his post, to say the least.

Often times the person in that position is the one that sets the rules governing technology use when it's the schools property.

Businesses have realised how bad this is for them, so sysadmins and technical people have lost quite a bit of power in that sector. Education simply hasn't had time to understand this yet. Doesn't mean it's right, actually - and imo, it's *much* "righter" in a corporate environment than in a school.

Based on how the story was told, no rules had been set or explained and the guy was making it up on the fly with what appears to be a hostile objective of teaching those little shits a lesson. Hardly how authority should work in democratic societies.

I'm really fond of Dewey's "Democracy and Education" and yep, this contradicts it totally.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/852

 

[dubq]

Personally I find comments like this gross for their lack of basic compassion and empathy. Honestly I find it troubling that anyone would find this funny.

Good gawd, give it a rest.

 

[kaiju]

This KirmitTHEfrog guy (can't even spell Kermit right) needs to be dealt with. He's a Destiny character mass murderer!

Checked his PSN account. This douche is at Level 33 with 126 Platinum trophies. Wouldn't it be incredible if Sony deleted those?

MAKE IT HAPPEN SONY!!!

 

[CyanideFuse]

Please read all my posts before commenting. Students and parents are fully aware of the rules, and a warning shot (including a trip to the principal's office) is fired before world deletion occurs.

Do you have an idea as to the percentage of those that are warned and stop to those that are warned and carry on?

If it is anything like when I was at school then it means the little ****s ignore the report and carry on as-is thinking a heavier consequence will not come their way.

A fair warning and then punishment seems absolutely fine to me.