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[EL CUCO]

anybody else think it was fake? why would he not delete the third character and instead a gun?

You're not alone.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Ok, so you tell me how I would have known that. I'm not a mind reader man. I can't possibly know if he read it before or after I submitted the edit. Also, the version he quoted had the correct wording. So when he read it, it was worded correctly.

You were confused as to why Seventy70 asked "Where does it say he was paying?", so I explained. That's it. Nothing more.

 

[Slixshot]

I feel bad if it is real...

 

[Seventy70]

This is why I don't like multiplayer, so many whiners. The kid got played, but the guy that deleted his characters din't hack the game or on anything, why are people asking for him to be banned? Bungie will likely get the characters back anyway.

His character got delete so what? If this was my kid I'd be much more concerned as to why hes streaming on the internet at his age.

That person should be banned just for being a horrible person. Their comments are absolutely disgusting. Every game is better off without them.

Anyway, I'm out.

The people who are saying that he deserved this need to ask themselves this:
Do people who do drugs deserve to have something bad happen to them just because they are doing something against the law?
The "cheating" he was doing was in no way harming anyone else. Just because he does something against the TOS, that doesn't mean he deserves something bad to happen to him.

 

[ender1986]

Dude's an asshole, but this is getting overblown. The kid's going to survive, there's no real harm here.

 

[Vitor711]

He's an 11 year old child. Really think about that. Hes 11. What consequences should there really be? If Bungie is able they should give him back his stuff. If not then ok the kid lost out. Regardless the child already learned his lesson in that moment of heart break.

The crying at the end really gets to me. At 11, sh*t like this really hits hard - don't pretend like it wouldn't have affected you in the same way. I remember when I accidentally deleted my 100% completion of Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles. I was devastated.

Anyone who can't sympathise or who just wants to blame the parents for letting him stream just lacks basic f*cking empathy (sharing a feature built into the system, with safeties already in place, and a video posted by his parents on their youtube channel - seems responsible enough to me. I'd be way happier if my parents had taken an active interest in my hobbies and let me expand them instead of scolding me for wasting my time)

 

[Gorger]

Isn't it possible for Bungie to reinstate his account? Guy is an utter scumbag.

It kinda reminds me of my Diablo 2 days 14-15 years ago when playing hardcore, and some guy used some sort of Sorceress trick and spawn massive amount of Hydras to instakill me when I teleported to the location. Game just started lagging like crazy and before I knew it my level 80 something character was dead.
People will always find a way to be jerks online.

 

[Anton Sugar]

anybody else think it was fake? why would he not delete the third character and instead a gun?

You're not alone.

GAF still trying to reach new lows. Y'all must be willfully TRYING to ignore the history of the player/reddit user who deleted his characters, as well as his own mother, but whatever.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Can we please add the gameinformer article in the OP? Maybe people will potentially bother reading before jumping in.

 

[Freeman]

That person should be banned just for being a horrible person. Their comments are absolutely disgusting. Every game is better off without them.

I'm not aware of any comment, I was referring to the action of deleting the character.

 

[Sane_Man]

GAF still trying to reach new lows. Y'all must be willfully TRYING to ignore the history of the player/reddit user who deleted his characters, as well as his own mother, but whatever.

You assume these people bother to read the threads they post in.

 

[Terra Firma]

That person should be banned just for being a horrible person. Their comments are absolutely disgusting. Every game is better off without them.

The guy has the personality of a psychopath. It's not just gaming that would be better off without him.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

I'm not aware of any comment, I was referring to the action of deleting the character.

It isn't Bungie that should be doing anything, it's Sony. What the 38 year old adult (and I use that loosely) did was against the terms of service/coc.

 

[joecanada]

This is why I don't like multiplayer, so many whiners. The kid got played, but the guy that deleted his characters din't hack the game or on anything, why are people asking for him to be banned? Bungie will likely get the characters back anyway. Abusing mechanics shouldn't be reason for a ban, design your game better next time.

His character got delete so what? If this was my kid I'd be much more concerned as to why hes streaming on the internet at his age.

if it's a hobby of his and he's 11, of course he's going to be upset. The games only rated T for teen, 11 isn't that bad for a mature kid to play a T rated game, this is like a pg13 movie, I saw plenty of them before I was 13.
The issue of streaming on the internet, is related to other assholes, and that's one of the points of this thread. The fact that you have to protect children from other people on the internet is the sad reality....

Also when I was looking up the ESRB rating , I found the description kind of funny

"Rating Summary: This is a first-person shooter in which players assume the role of a warrior tasked with defending a city from hostile alien forces. Players explore ruins across the solar system, acquire various relics, and battle insect- and robot-like aliens. Characters use pistols, shotguns, rocket launchers, and special powers (e.g., telekinesis, blasts of energy) to kill enemies. Enemies can also be dispatched up close via hand-to-hand combat and knife stabs. Combat is highlighted by cries of pain and realistic gunfire. Some aliens emit splashes of white or black liquid when shot.

 

[SnakeSlashRO]

I'm not aware of any comment, I was referring to the action of deleting the character.

Yeah you are not aware of much of anything, you come in here posting without reading a damn thing.

 

[computers putin']

Feel terrible for the kid, and as long as it doesn't affect others, I can't say that I care that he was trying to glitch, nor do i think he deserves his character being deleted because of it.

 

[bishoptl]

I can just imagine the 'lesson learned' crowd seeing their five year-old kid falling over in the street and them dragging them back up screaming "Lesson learned, gravity bitch!!".

Use your head. I'm certainly not saying that. It is possible to feel empathy for the child while at the same time recognizing the situation as a teaching opportunity. This shit isn't binary.

 

[Freeman]

if it's a hobby of his and he's 11, of course he's going to be upset. The games only rated T for teen, 11 isn't that bad for a mature kid to play a T rated game, this is like a pg13 movie, I saw plenty of them before I was 13.
The issue of streaming on the internet, is related to other assholes, and that's one of the points of this thread. The fact that you have to protect children from other people on the internet is the sad reality....

Also when I was looking up the ESRB rating , I found the description kind of funny

"Rating Summary: This is a first-person shooter in which players assume the role of a warrior tasked with defending a city from hostile alien forces. Players explore ruins across the solar system, acquire various relics, and battle insect- and robot-like aliens. Characters use pistols, shotguns, rocket launchers, and special powers (e.g., telekinesis, blasts of energy) to kill enemies. Enemies can also be dispatched up close via hand-to-hand combat and knife stabs. Combat is highlighted by cries of pain and realistic gunfire. Some aliens emit splashes of white or black liquid when shot.

I don't know where you got the impression that I have a problem with the kid playing the game or being upset.

edit: when I said whiners I ironically enough I wasn't referring to the kid (hes a kid, its a natural reaction), I was referring to the people reacting as if this is the end of the world.

Yeah you are not aware of much of anything, you come in here posting without reading a damn thing.

I read OP and the GI article and watched the video, do I need a degree in this guy personal life to be allowed to post here?

 

[Apollo Cree]

Since neither you or Parent of the Year n0razi can seem to follow a basic analogy, my point is that blaming the kid or his parent in this instance is rather abhorrent when the other side of the blame game is some 38 year old man who spends his time targetting kids to make them miserable. I honestly don't know how fucked up your brain has to be to put the blame on the victim here, especially a child.

Your analogy is disruptive to the argument. You disagree with what you're saying, you are tied into defending pedophilia.

This kid learned one of the safest lessons he could about trusting strangers on the internet. I'm glad it was this way and not something more harming.

Following with the trends of extreme analogies, I have one. I see a hitchhiker on the side of the road. I stop, chat with him a bit and he seems like a cool guy so I let him into my car. He knows this gas station with the best taquitos. That sounds great so we swing by the gas station. I get out and take my keys with me but he says he'll wait it out in the car. No big deal, we're bros now. I get back and catch him pissing all over my seats. Why? Just because he felt like being an asshat. I'd be upset, I'd call him a raging dicknozzle.

Did I deserve it? No.
Is the guy a jerk? Yes.
Am I ever going to pick up a hitchhiker ever again? God no.
After all of this, would anyone expect the car company to buy me new seats especially brand new handmade italian leather ones?

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Use your head. I'm certainly not saying that. It is possible to feel empathy for the child while at the same time recognizing the situation as a teaching opportunity. This shit isn't binary.

Which is exactly what the mother said:

As you can see at the end of the video, Henry boldly confronts his malefactors immediately after the incident. He doesn't resort to foul language. He treats them with civility. His mother tells us that this is a valuable lesson for Henry and others.

"I think this is a great opportunity to reiterate to the gaming community about the importance of not trusting anyone online, even if you think they are your friends," Kramer says. "Protect your hard work by being cautious. As Henry’s parents, we are constantly reminding him of this, to be careful, never share your personal information, always be on the lookout. But the truth is, no matter how many times a parent says this to a kid, when you’re in the actual situation, it’s easier to trust people you think are your friends because someone you actually know in real life vouches for them."

It is also important to remember this part:

Henry's mother tells us that one of the members of the young man's clan invited KirmitTHEfrog and another person into a party. They played together for a while, and it was after earning his trust on February 13, that the events of the video below unfolded.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

This is why I don't like multiplayer, so many whiners. The kid got played, but the guy that deleted his characters din't hack the game or on anything, why are people asking for him to be banned? Bungie will likely get the characters back anyway. Abusing mechanics shouldn't be reason for a ban, design your game better next time.

His character got delete so what? If this was my kid I'd be much more concerned as to why hes streaming on the internet at his age.

It's got nothing to do with game design. It's the shareplay feature which is like handing over the controller to someone.

 

[Freeman]

It's got nothing to do with game design. It's the shareplay feature which is like handing over the controller to someone.

Doesn't Sony ask for the developer permission to make it available for their game?

Its obvious something like this would be abused.

 

[Slappers_Only]

It made me sad that the kid cried, and it's dumb people find enjoyment out of doing bad things to other people. But he'll get over it. Nothing of any true value was lost. In destiny at level 31 there is really no reason to keep playing it's definitely the journey in that game that gives the most enjoyment and fun.

I never bought the dlc for the game but i traded it in a few weeks after hitting level 30 because there was simply nothing left to achieve in that game.

I'd put this right up there with me having to learn what reformat means when my ps1 memory card told me it was corrupted. there goes my 100+ hour save file for final fantasy tactics.

 

[Pathfinder]

Doesn't Sony ask for the developer permission to make it available for their game?

Its obvious something like this would be abused.

If I recall correctly, isn't Share Play just opt-out?

 

[tariniel]

I can't be the only one who clicked the video and expected it to be funny. But it really wasn't... I felt so bad for him when he started crying. Fuck that's rough man.

 

[ender1986]

The crying at the end really gets to me. At 11, sh*t like this really hits hard - don't pretend like it wouldn't have affected you in the same way. I remember when I accidentally deleted my 100% completion of Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles. I was devastated.

Yea, if I was 11, I might have cried too. I cried out of frustration when I couldn't beat games, cried when my Genesis froze on the last level of Sonic, etc. The point is, I'm not 11 anymore. I'm completely okay looking back at that time now and say "Yea, crying over THAT was pretty effin stupid."

The kid's fine.

 

[RawNuts]

After checking into the players involved, I'm honestly not sure who I should feel worse for in this situation:

The 11-year old kid who got his characters deleted by a 38-year old man.
or
The 38-year old man who has logged well over 500 hours into this game across his 3 characters.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Yea, if I was 11, I might have cried too. I cried out of frustration when I couldn't beat games, cried when my Genesis froze on the last level of Sonic, etc. The point is, I'm not 11 anymore. I'm completely okay looking back at that time now and say "Yea, crying over THAT was pretty effin stupid."

The kid's fine.

No one here is acting like this is going to cause life long trauma or anything. Of course the child is going to be fine. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Doesn't Sony ask for the developer permission to make it available for their game?

Its obvious something like this would be abused.

I think the dev has to be ok with it. Yeah, the feature can be abused but getting rid of it because of that would be dumb. A warning to be careful about who you share with (and examples like this) should be enough.

 

[Altered Juice]

damn i bet that kirmit guy wish he could change his psn name

 

[FunkyMunkey]

The comparisons to attempted kidnappings and kids getting shot trying to buy drugs are doing nothing notable for the crowd here completely on the side of the kid. Appealing to emotions using comparisons is a tricky argumentative tactic but only works when you keep the severity the same. He had two video game characters deleted, that's it. He wasn't harassed in any way in real life, was never placed in any danger, had no real world information stolen, etc. Those comparisons are seriously crazy, I'm waiting for someone to work Godwin's law into this just to complete the circle.

The adult here is an asshole, absolutely, but asking for his head over it? Eh. There is plenty of area in the middle between choosing one side over the other, and I feel some of the people here are conflating those thinking it's not a big deal with agreeing that the kid deserved it or something.

 

[Freeman]

Just another observation that is somehow related but doesn't apply directly to this case. I don't like that all or most games now are so concerned to make everything safe within the game's world, you have no risk of losing progress or being ripped off within the game, loot distribution is automated, it feels excessively artificial. If you add those things to DayZ I think it would ruin the game for example (haven't played it since the first months so I don't know how it is now).

I think the dev has to be ok with it. Yeah, the feature can be abused but getting rid of it because of that would be dumb. A warning to be careful about who you share with (and examples like this) should be enough.

Sounds reasonable.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The comparisons to attempted kidnappings and kids getting shot trying to buy drugs are doing nothing for the crowd here completely on the side of the kid. Appealing to emotions using comparisons is a tricky argumentative tactic but only works when you keep the severity the same. He had two video game characters deleted, that's it. He wasn't harassed in any way in real life, was never placed in any danger, had no real world information stolen, etc. Those comparisons are seriously crazy, I'm waiting for someone to work Godwin's law into this just to complete the circle.

The adult here is an asshole, absolutely, but asking for his head over it? Eh. There is plenty of area in the middle between choosing one side over the other, and I feel some of the people here are conflating those thinking it's not a big deal with agreeing that the kid deserved it or something.

I posted the kidnapping thing because it was the same type of argument used. Lesson learned, stranger danger, don't trust, etc. Of course I'm not stating that the situations are remotely similar, just that the excuse for it are.

Who is actually calling for the guys head? I think he should be banned from PSN, full stop. This isn't the first time he has done this. He is actively harassing people, continually preying on individuals. It's disgusting and he should get banned for it.

 

[Arkage]

If you want to wear big boy pants and play online, ya gotta put on big boy pants and take responsibility for your actions.

When all those videogame sites wrote articles about how "gamer culture" is a pile of shit that should die, I used to think they were wrong.

This thread, and people like you, have made me see the light.

 

[Constantine81]

I can just imagine the 'lesson learned' crowd seeing their five year-old kid falling over in the street and them dragging them back up screaming "Lesson learned, gravity bitch!!".

If he's old enough to play online, he's old enough to pay for his actions. I would hope that this is why his parents let him play online to begin with. From my personal standpoints children under 13 shouldn't be allowed to play online. And this is one of those reasons. Even children need to learn life lessons. Chances are he will never make this mistake again, and that's a good thing. Better that he learn this from something as little as playing a game than say following a stranger home. In the grand scheme of things he hasn't really lost anything. At least not anything that can't be regained. I'd say the same thing my parents used to say to me "Well at least you don't have to keep pumping quarters into it."

 

[Constantine81]

When all those videogame sites wrote articles about how "gamer culture" is a pile of shit that should die, I used to think they were wrong.

This thread, and people like you, have made me see the light.

That's kind of harsh for an unpopular opinion wouldn't you say? All I'm saying is even children need to learn life lessons somehow, even if they are somewhat harsh. He'll get over it and won't make the same mistake again.

 

[Reg]

Poor kid. Those tears are real.

 

[I H8 Memes]

I feel nothing - he was trying to mess with the "system" by trusting and giving controll to a stranger.
Next step - fake college papers, paying for them and being busted plus the loss of money. (that escalatedquickly blahblah)

His lesson was learned. And the other person is hearthless.

Most of this isn't even English. And the part that is just doesn't make sense.

 

[The Crimson Beast]

GAF still trying to reach new lows. Y'all must be willfully TRYING to ignore the history of the player/reddit user who deleted his characters, as well as his own mother, but whatever.

i honestly don't care enough to look up the guy just saw the video. sucks thats it real then

 

[YoshiEx]

I don't know, this prank, gamergate, the comments on this and other forums of "LOL" and "he deserves it" make me seriously question the modern gamer crowd. Maybe it's just typical teenager ignorance, 20-something selfishness, or maybe it's just a broader picture of humanity but that someone would do this to a child and you trolls would laugh or laud it, makes me immensely sad.

 

[Sane_Man]

Your analogy is disruptive to the argument. You disagree with what you're saying, you are tied into defending pedophilia.

This kid learned one of the safest lessons he could about trusting strangers on the internet. I'm glad it was this way and not something more harming.

Following with the trends of extreme analogies, I have one. I see a hitchhiker on the side of the road. I stop, chat with him a bit and he seems like a cool guy so I let him into my car. He knows this gas station with the best taquitos. That sounds great so we swing by the gas station. I get out and take my keys with me but he says he'll wait it out in the car. No big deal, we're bros now. I get back and catch him pissing all over my seats. Why? Just because he felt like being an asshat. I'd be upset, I'd call him a raging dicknozzle.

Did I deserve it? No.
Is the guy a jerk? Yes.
Am I ever going to pick up a hitchhiker ever again? God no.
After all of this, would anyone expect the car company to buy me new seats especially brand new handmade italian leather ones?

We must have crossed wires here because I have no idea what you mean. My paedophile analogy was specifically in response to n0razi's post which said it's the mother's fault and also posts in general blaming the kid, rather than blaming the 38 year old man who deceived the child and deleted his characters.

I've not even argued that Bungie are to blame either, which is what your analogy suggests I'm doing. The outcome of your analogy which I've bolded is the very same point I was making... so I guess we agree?

 

[DarkOneX]

This was very sad, I could imagine myself at that age something like that happening I would have cried too. To that kid, I'm truly sorry for your lots.

 

[dreamstation]

I'm all for justice being dealt against cheaters but that scumbag should be banned from PSN. Permanently. Let's see how he feels when his level 33 account with 126 platinum trophies gets put to an end.

Do it Sony.

 

[Alebrije]

That kermitthenfrog should be banned , send his account to Oblivion because otherwise people like him will attempt similar stuff since there is not punishment for that kind of low immature behavior.

 

[GoaThief]

After checking into the players involved, I'm honestly not sure who I should feel worse for in this situation:

The 11-year old kid who got his characters deleted by a 38-year old man.
or
The 38-year old man who has logged well over 500 hours into this game across his 3 characters.

What's wrong with 500 hours since September exactly? Keep in mind that is time logged in, not necessarily playing.

Criticise his behaviour, sure. I do not see what the hours have to do with anything.

 

[NullPointer]

I don't know, this prank, gamergate, the comments on this and other forums of "LOL" and "he deserves it" make me seriously question the modern gamer crowd. Maybe it's just typical teenager ignorance, 20-something selfishness, or maybe it's just a broader picture of humanity but that someone would do this to a child and you trolls would laugh or laud it, makes me immensely sad.

"For the lolz" is the worst part of internet culture and seems to be the defacto justification for so much bullying and dickish and worse behavior, and yeah, this thread has bummed me out a bit too because its to be found here as well.

But the bigger the tent the more sociopaths you end up sharing space with.

 

[R0ckman]

That kermitthenfrog should be banned , send his account to Oblivion because otherwise people like him will attempt similar stuff since there is not punishment for that kind of low immature behavior.

This might be why there are so many cases of injustice in the hierarchical system, it seems that people in more authoritative/mature positions are given free passes when, ideally it should actually be the opposite, people in higher more mature positions should be under higher penalties if they screw up.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Usually when something like this happens, the developer steps in and rectifies the matter.

Is that going to happen here?

 

[EatMyFace]

They guy who did this should be banned from PSN or at the very least from Destiny.
No one needs people like that online. I hope the kid reported him.

 

[DarkFlow]

After checking into the players involved, I'm honestly not sure who I should feel worse for in this situation:

The 11-year old kid who got his characters deleted by a 38-year old man.
or
The 38-year old man who has logged well over 500 hours into this game across his 3 characters.

You're really going to call out how much time he plays video games on a video game forum?