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[FeenixRising]

pfft, everyone knows the sign of the night was Stang

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Has Reigns ever used the full guard ground 'n pound elbows or Matt Hughes arm bar power bomb moves before?

With the superman punch, he should just go full MMA arsenal and make that his schtick. It would at least set him more apart from the standard roster and give him a bunch more moves to work with that look 'strong'.

The GnP looked good in particular. Like he actually cared.

Bryan taught him that.

 

[antonz]

Romans problem is he needs more time in developmental but he is already about to reach 30 which means they cant afford to build him through the system anymore and have to push him while he's at his peak physically and age wise. They barely gave him a year and a half in developmental before they pushed him to the main stage with the shield.

They never bothered to keep developing him since he was protected by Rollins and Ambrose who could do all the work then have reigns do his spear or punch and call it a night. He needed more time but that rock lineage means automatic superstar attempt status

 

[Professor Beef]

Romans problem is he needs more time in developmental but he is already about to reach 30 which means they cant afford to build him through the system anymore and have to push him while he's at his peak physically and age wise. They barely gave him a year and a half in developmental before they pushed him to the main stage with the shield.

They never bothered to keep developing him since he was protected by Rollins and Ambrose who could do all the work then have reigns do his spear or punch and call it a night. He needed more time but that rock lineage means automatic superstar attempt status

Too bad he's forced to read promos. I like this Roman on the mic better.

 

[ChosenPredator]

So bryans going to lose at wrestlemania to Sheamus again? because it's obvious they want to build sheamus as a heel threat to roman...............:-|

 

[JesseEwiak]

But I still dont want Reigns to be the guy that beats Lesnar.

Lesnar's dominance is so special. Everything's been perfect about it, and to give it to Reigns is just gross.

Lesnar getting cashed in on is perfect. But having Reigns win and then lose is just awful, and will get shit on, because it's not about the title, it's about who gets to face and maybe beat Lesnar.

It's like the closest thing to Taker's streak we have now-- something built specially well over a good period of time that should have a sensible payoff. Giving that to Roman is never going to come off as genuine.

I want Reigns to be the guy because it makes you upset.

 

[DMczaf]

I marked out for STANG poster

 

[Jmanunknown]

So bryans going to lose at wrestlemania to Sheamus again? because it's obvious they want to build sheamus as a heel threat to roman...............:-|

No need to build Sheamus as a heel threat Seth still has money in the bank and has about two months left to cash it in. I really wanna see if they go down the road of Bryan vs Sheamus again because that would be hilarious. His options are limited though it is either sheamus, Ziggler, Kane or Big Show. Either way Bryan will be in the opening match of Wrestlemania this year if he is lucky or quite possibly on the pre-show.

 

[bean breath]

Oh, Vince McMahon. Oh, Vince McMahon! You son of a b*tch, Vince McMahon. You had an opportunity to correct your mistakes from the Royal Rumble, you screwed Daniel Bryan out of his well deserved opportunity to main event Wrestlemania for a second year in a row against Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar! And you blew it.

You blew it! #CancelTheF*ckingWWENetwork. Cancel the Network! If Daniel Bryan isn't going to the pay-per-view to main event and reclaim his WWE Championship- that he never lost! That he never f*cking lost!- Then I'm not gonna watch the whole- I'm not- I'm done. I don't give a d*mn how good NXT is, I'm done! I'm f*cking done with it.

It's not fair. It's not fair! Daniel Bryan... Not fair, Daniel Bryan deserved to be champion again. It's not fair, I'm really upset right now.

Go to my website, cancelwwenetwork dot com. Sign the petition, we currently have 65 signatures, can you- do I have you attention now, Vince McMahon? Do I have you attention now?!

Another mistake, you let CM Punk go, you son of a b*tch. CM Punk's gone!

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

Well, look at the comic industry. For years, it's been actively catering to its existing, adult audience to the exclusion of new readers. It's become the snake eating its own tail and now has to resort to an endless parade of "shock value" moments to temporarily boost sales.

The Attitude era was a punctuated shift in tone, necessary to compete with WCW. It's not a long-term strategy, and it's certainly not conducive to cultivating a younger audience.

There are other lessons to learn from the Attitude era besides the middle school sleaze and pee pee humor. The Rock 'n' Wrestling era was also huge with adults and kids without all of the Jerry Springer vomit.

TV ratings for individual shows are down 30+% as a whole. Agent Carter is doing 1.8s, for example.

This problem goes further back than this year. The E seems hellbent on repeating the same mistakes they made with Cena the lull period superstar. Driving down the fastlane on the Cena highway is a proven mainstream collision. And they are pushing Roman in a way that is even more forced than Cena's initial rise to the top. Vince and company are regurgitating the same old failures instead of learning from their boom periods.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I marked out for STANG poster

should have said "MAN CALLED STANG"

 

[mariachi507]

You had me right up until the last part. Did you think about what you were saying for even a second there? lol

The part about Reigns beating Brock or the inability to create new stars part? If it's the latter I'm referring to how creative (Vince) doesn't let stars get made organically anymore and instead tells us who to cheer for (Cena/Reigns). However, in Cena's case he at least had the crowd for the beginning of his championship run until he got stale and the crowd turned on him. I'm afraid that Roman is going to get pushed to the moon when he is nowhere near ready and he might not be able to recover from the damage it may cause. Which is a shame because he has plenty of potential.

If Brock is sticking around then there isn't even a need to get the title off of him.

Would people be more surprised if Brock won the ME then him winning against Taker last year? Because people are acting like its a done deal.

You could be right on this and I might already be accepting the rumors of Brock going back to MMA a little too soon. If Brock decides to stay with the WWE and continues his dominance through and past Mania only later to give the rub to a guy who deserves it, then I'm cool with the main event being him and Reigns despite how I think the match will turn out.

But I still dont want Reigns to be the guy that beats Lesnar.

Lesnar's dominance is so special. Everything's been perfect about it, and to give it to Reigns is just gross.

Lesnar getting cashed in on is perfect. But having Reigns win and then lose is just awful, and will get shit on, because it's not about the title, it's about who gets to face and maybe beat Lesnar.

It's like the closest thing to Taker's streak we have now-- something built specially well over a good period of time that should have a sensible payoff. Giving that to Roman is never going to come off as genuine.

Perfectly said. Defeating Brock Lesnar is currently the highest accolade that can be achieved by a WWE superstar, much higher than the world title. Ever since Brock ended the streak he has been built up as the ultimate video game boss and it should be a huge "Holy Shit!" moment when he is finally defeated. At the current time I just can't fathom Roman Reigns kicking out after twenty german suplexes and multiple f5's just to end Brock's reign from a spear.

I want Reigns to be the guy because it makes you upset.

Yeah, why should we wish for a better product when we can have the lulz, right? Come on man.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Oh, Vince McMahon. Oh, Vince McMahon! You son of a b*tch, Vince McMahon. You had an opportunity to correct your mistakes from the Royal Rumble, you screwed Daniel Bryan out of his well deserved opportunity to main event Wrestlemania for a second year in a row against Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar! And you blew it.

You blew it! #CancelTheF*ckingWWENetwork. Cancel the Network! If Daniel Bryan isn't going to the pay-per-view to main event and reclaim his WWE Championship- that he never lost! That he never f*cking lost!- Then I'm not gonna watch the whole- I'm not- I'm done. I don't give a d*mn how good NXT is, I'm done! I'm f*cking done with it.

It's not fair. It's not fair! Daniel Bryan... Not fair, Daniel Bryan deserved to be champion again. It's not fair, I'm really upset right now.

Go to my website, cancelwwenetwork dot com. Sign the petition, we currently have 65 signatures, can you- do I have you attention now, Vince McMahon? Do I have you attention now?!

Another mistake, you let CM Punk go, you son of a b*tch. CM Punk's gone!

You have my attention.

 

[Cybit]

Salt shit is getting old.

I would love for Lesnar to destroy everyone in his path. That SOB is that entertaining!

He is. I think what is assumed as the "obvious" finish for WM (Reigns beating Lesnar, Rollins cashing in either that night or next night on RAW) is actually not going to be the finish. The crowd has been coming around to Lesnar as a badass face even before Reigns showed up (and why it might have been bad for Bryan to face Lesnar to a small extent, in that Lesnar might get a lot of cheers from a WM crowd) - so I think the ending is going to be Heyman turning on Lesnar w/ Reigns mid match, and Reigns / Heyman joining the Authority and helping Rollins cash in.

This problem goes further back than this year. The E seems hellbent on repeating the same mistakes they made with Cena the lull period superstar. Driving down the fastlane on the Cena highway is a proven mainstream collision. And they are pushing Roman in a way that is even more forced than Cena's initial rise to the top. Vince and company are regurgitating the same old failures instead of learning from their boom periods.

The declining TV ratings across the board has been happening since the 80s; but in the last 10-15 years, all shows have been hit by the ratings dropping (DVR is a big part of it).

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

The declining TV ratings across the board has been happening since the 80s; but in the last 10-15 years, all shows have been hit by the ratings dropping (DVR is a big part of it).

If only there were more succesful periods for the company they could try and replicate and evolve to help drive larger numbers to the WWE Network...

 

[Cybit]

If only there were more succesful periods for the company they could try and replicate and evolve to help drive larger numbers to the WWE Network...

Problem is that it would probably lower ratings overall. The attitude era is not a repeatable, sustainable thing (they lucked into having two once in a generation talents w/ Rock and Austin at the same time). That atmosphere (edgy,anti-hero) is something that is more prevalent now a days. Plus, they are making a crap ton of money on a regular basis.

The network is a different story; admittedly. I wonder if they could have taken 10 million less a year in TV revenue but gotten the OK to have RAW put up 24 hours later on the network. I think a lot of cord cutters might have gone for the network at that point.

 

[JesseEwiak]

The network is a different story; admittedly. I wonder if they could have taken 10 million less a year in TV revenue but gotten the OK to have RAW put up 24 hours later on the network. I think a lot of cord cutters might have gone for the network at that point.

You're dreaming to think only $10 million would've been the price for a 24 hour turnaround on RAW. They maybe might've been able to get away with that, for a week turnaround time. If you can miss RAW live, the WWE is worthless to USA.

Yeah, why should we wish for a better product when we can have the lulz, right? Come on man.

There are thousands of hours of "good" product to watch from the past 50 years in wrestling. I can punch up 1981 Memphis or 2004 NOAH with a little Google searching.

So, for me, I get the most entertainment when it comes to 2014 WWE by seeing the Daniel Bryan fans upset and whining like they didn't get the toy they wanted at Christmas.

 

[Into]

Ive been funerals with better crowds than at Fastlane, at some point you cannot blame the crowd alone for it, they had little reason to give a shit.

I dont understand why they did not go the Rocky route with Cena and Rusev. Have Cena mock him leading up to the match, not take it seriously, while Rusev is busting his balls in the gym. Show Cena and Nikki hanging out at parties, while Rusev is being yelled at by his trainer. Have Cena even claim he wants to beat Rusev fast so he can take a private jet to the Oscars or something

Then Rusev wins, clean. Cena has to refocus and train hard for Mania, wins, happy ending.

Puts both guys over, Rusev demands absolute attention from a main eventer, while Cena shows he still got it when he takes it seriously. In actual sports, former champions get complacent, its one of the biggest hurdle to a team repeating a championship as football, basketball etc fans would attest. What they did, nobody is over except for Lana's legs. Nobody believes Rusev is on Cena's level despite the win. Nothing is accomplished when Cena beats him other than a US chant that lasts 40 seconds.

Oh well, its not a big deal, i doubt Rusev will be important in 2015 beyond Mania. And Cena will be slotted back in the main event anyway.

 

[yuraya]

Disappointing

Lesnar vs Bryan would have been a match for the ages. Both guys extremely skilled and talented. Both guys still in their primes and in good shape. Instead we get a pretty boy with 1.5 moves in his repertoire. Gonna be boring match. Reigns needs like another 2-3 years before he is ready for such a stage. Don't understand why they pushing him now. What was even the point of all that Bryan stuff last year? He goes from that to now going probably going against Sheamus in a meaningless mania match? smh.

Hopefully Vince has enough money to keep Lesnar around for couple more years. Otherwise I hope they give the belt to Rollins. The guy is talented and the only other legit contender if they aren't pushing Bryan anymore.

 

[v0yce]

So, for me, I get the most entertainment when it comes to 2014 WWE by seeing the Daniel Bryan fans upset and whining like they didn't get the toy they wanted at Christmas.

Lol, why would you admit something like this? You're patting yourself on the back for out smarking smarks.

You're taking this all way too serious.

 

[MBison]

Fastlane was more meh in a series of meh WWE bookings. Seriously, I don't follow NxT at all but I do watch their event PPVs and I am transfixed the whole time even though I know nothing about the characters or storylines because the wrestling is that good. At Fastlane I know all about the characters and its like a cartoon compared to NxT. The matches are just so meh.

With that said, I do think some of the fault is the storylines that have no depth. Mania should be the culmination of storylines for most of the year, not set up within the past month or two. Ambrose/BNB was dead cause of lame build. Stardust/Goldust was a snorer. The diva matches are awful even though NxT diva matches are incredible.

Just disappointing when they have the potential to put up great shows. And good characters. Rusev will be buried for good come Mania when Cena crushes his ass. Roman Reigns is the worst, can only hope Seth cashes in and wins as soon as possible after Mania.

Also, posted this earlier but fuck the WWE Network for making me suffer through 90 minutes of tech support cause my 6 month subscription ended yesterday so I tried to renew today and even though it said on the billing page that my account was active, I couldn't log in. I was told by tech support after 90 minutes of talk that the Paypal payment, which I used for my original subscription, remember just renewing, that wouldnt go through until tomorrow. Really? An internet company can't bill on a Sunday? You know like everything else on the Internet can do, like Steam for instance.

And they refused to just let me watch Fastlane.

So I just downloaded it. Blow me WWE.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Terrible event from start to finish, though the clue should have been in the fact it was given away for free
Dbry wrestling a brickwall that doesn't give back just isn't entertaining and Cena losing that way was such bs.
I hate Vinces obsession with cowardly heels.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Crowd was hot for the opener, but were given nothing to keep them up. It was all downhill from there. Shit show.

 

[norm9]

Bathing in these Daniel Bryan tears got me looking rejuvenated. My coworkers better notice tomorrow.

 

[The Bookerman]

Lol, why would you admit something like this? You're patting yourself on the back for out smarking smarks.

You're taking this all way too serious.

Bathing in these Daniel Bryan tears got me looking rejuvenated. My coworkers better notice tomorrow.

Anybody reigns is more like it for me.

 

[StylesClash]

Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.

Same here. Saw that. Was like umm that's a 3.

 

[Plinko]

If WWE was trying to draw in new fans by giving away that PPV for free, I can only imagine it backfired. What an awful show.

 

[reptilescorpio]

Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.

Just watched Fastlane and yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's a pretty bad botch to miss that for a pin.

 

[Kaiterra]

I want Reigns to be the guy because it makes you upset.

You're the most annoying kind of wrestling fan.

The part about Reigns beating Brock or the inability to create new stars part? If it's the latter I'm referring to how creative (Vince) doesn't let stars get made organically anymore and instead tells us who to cheer for (Cena/Reigns). However, in Cena's case he at least had the crowd for the beginning of his championship run until he got stale and the crowd turned on him. I'm afraid that Roman is going to get pushed to the moon when he is nowhere near ready and he might not be able to recover from the damage it may cause. Which is a shame because he has plenty of potential.

Okay, then I get what you're saying. It was just really contradictory the way you worded it originally. Yeah, I'm not sure this is the best thing for Reigns either. I actually like him (except for that weird detour he took in December and January) and I really don't want him to be the next Sheamus. For years it's never worked out when they push a guy this hard this fast, so I don't see any reason to think this is the time it will magically take, especially when you're sacrificing the actual most popular guy to do it.

 

[Hex]

Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.

Can you pin someone by covering their leg?
If he had a leg on his chest I would support this, but covering his legs?

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Can you pin someone by covering their leg?
If he had a leg on his chest I would support this, but covering his legs?

No, both Bryan and Reigns have their shoulders on the mat which would have made it a draw. The WWE have done this before.

 

[Dick Justice]

I want Reigns to be the guy because it makes you upset.

 

[Hex]

No, both Bryan and Reigns have their shoulders on the mat which would have made it a draw. The WWE have done this before.

Ah double pin, correct.
I thought people were saying that Bryan had Reigns pinned.
The double shoulders down has been done multiple times correct.

 

[RandyBobandy]

The main event was actually good. Didn't mind that at all

Everything else was a giant turd

 

[The Elite]

Ah double pin, correct.
I thought people were saying that Bryan had Reigns pinned.
The double shoulders down has been done multiple times correct.

Doesn't the ref go for a 10 count in that situation? Didn't the ref do just that?

 

[Hex]

Doesn't the ref go for a 10 count in that situation? Didn't the ref do just that?

Correct, ref would count 10.
I do not remember the scenario so I can not say if he did or did not in this case.

 

[British Monsoon]

Crowd was hot for the opener, but were given nothing to keep them up. It was all downhill from there. Shit show.

Agreed. The crowd were hot for Ziggler, then he got pinned clean by Kane in 2015 and all the fucks they gave mysteriously vanished until Bryan & Reigns woke them up again.

 

[FlammableD]

Oh, Vince McMahon. Oh, Vince McMahon! You son of a b*tch, Vince McMahon. You had an opportunity to correct your mistakes from the Royal Rumble, you screwed Daniel Bryan out of his well deserved opportunity to main event Wrestlemania for a second year in a row against Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar! And you blew it.

You blew it! #CancelTheF*ckingWWENetwork. Cancel the Network! If Daniel Bryan isn't going to the pay-per-view to main event and reclaim his WWE Championship- that he never lost! That he never f*cking lost!- Then I'm not gonna watch the whole- I'm not- I'm done. I don't give a d*mn how good NXT is, I'm done! I'm f*cking done with it.

It's not fair. It's not fair! Daniel Bryan... Not fair, Daniel Bryan deserved to be champion again. It's not fair, I'm really upset right now.

Go to my website, cancelwwenetwork dot com. Sign the petition, we currently have 65 signatures, can you- do I have you attention now, Vince McMahon? Do I have you attention now?!

Another mistake, you let CM Punk go, you son of a b*tch. CM Punk's gone!

 

[Radec]

Miz vs Mizdow needs to happen in Mania.

Loser gets to be the assistant.

 

[Hex]

Miz vs Mizdow needs to happen in Mania.

Loser gets to be the assistant.

I will not lie, I would have marked the hell out if Heyman while on MizTV said something and Mizdow laid the Miz out and Heyman went into his "I represent Damien Sandow, he is a Heyman guy"

 

[iMax]

Miz vs Mizdow needs to happen in Mania.

Loser gets to be the assistant.

Winner gets to be the real Miz.

 

[TomShoe]

At least I see WWE's point of view for not giving Bryan the title back. He just came back from a neck injury, and the front office are probably being cautious with his health.

 

[witness]

And cancelled my sub. I am not a dedicated fan anymore, so without Bryan there I'm not going to bother. Bryan vs Lesner would work on so many levels, and instead Vince is doing what he wants. I'll just go back to ignoring wrestling for the next 6 months.

 

[El-Suave]

Miz vs Mizdow needs to happen in Mania.

Loser gets to be the assistant.

The Bella twins already did that stipulation recently. Also, the Miz would be the only one to risk something considering the status quo.

 

[Ithil]

I want Reigns to be the guy because it makes you upset.

If you hate everyone here so much that you want a shitty wrestler on top so that people dislike having a shitty wrestler on top, why don't you just leave?

 

[Fox318]

Miz vs Mizdow needs to happen in Mania.

Loser gets to be the assistant.

I quit match.

Miz loses and is never heard from again.

 

[krae_man]

I quit match.

Miz loses and is never heard from again.

You know full well that if it was a "loser leaves WWE" match, Mizdow would be the one FE'D.

 

[Radec]

I quit match.

Miz loses and is never heard from again.

You want to remove the best Heel the WWE has right now ?

 

[Sephzilla]

Clear pin missed. CONTROVERSY. Triple threat at Mania. 4 way when you add Axel.

Yeah, this is technically a pin considering the figure four leg lock can also count as a pin attempt

 

[Hex]

If it had to be Reigns or Bryan at Mania, I am glad it is Reigns.
Not that I will not be happy when it is someone else's time, but I am that tired of the Daniel Bryan story.
Ambrose, Rollins, fantastic I would have been all over it.
I think Reigns can still grow, he needs to find what works and what doesn't but the same people giving him input are the same ones putting Kane and Show all over the place thinking that it is compelling content.
He should be beast mode but spends much of his matches getting beat down and making odd faces.
He should be roaring and aggressive but they are trying to still make him some kind of smooth Rock wannabe.
They want him to be some kind of Frankenstein's Monster of different wrestlers and it is not helping anything.