Dragonborn
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Yes, it practically gives away the end games for both show's current seasons. So seriously, avoid if you don't want that spoil.
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Yes, it practically gives away the end games for both show's current seasons. So seriously, avoid if you don't want that spoil.
It is like 3 or 4 spoilers in one pic
Cross posting from the Arrow thread, it's available for just over two more hours:
PhoncipleBone
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Why isn't Peach in some Felicity get up, hmmm?
fallengorn
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Phanto/Deathstroke should be hovering over them.
King Gilga
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The gold gun effects were atrocious.
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Also needs Bowser as Deathstroke and Wario as Reverse Flash.
What does Ollie even do in that fight besides die? The only reason he had any chance against Barry was the experience gap. Wells the Reverse Gawd is far more experienced with his powers and smarter than all those dudes combined. Oliver dead, y'all.
Also needs Bowser as Deathstroke and Wario as Reverse Flash.
PhoncipleBone
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I'd rather see Waluigi as Reverse Flash. The Captain Cold get up works better for Wario.
Septimus Prime
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Freeze arrows. Maybe some Planck temperature heat arrows. RF would have to cross them to beat Arrow.
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roflwaffles
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Anyone else get the feeling that SOMEONE has to lose the use of their legs and get brain damage like Captain Singh did before the time travel episode?
I'm thinking it has to be Eddie who will then turn crazy and become a successor to the Reverse Flash.
I'm thinking it has to be Eddie who will then turn crazy and become a successor to the Reverse Flash.
That has to be from the finale, right?
The delay of the Flash finale compared to the Arrow finale makes a lot of sense based on that picture. The Arrow finale has the Arrow becoming R'as. He then goes help Flash in his finale. It would also help with the entire 'why aren't they helping each other?' question.
TheGreatDirector
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You mean...
Hunter Zolomon? Because the other Zoom in the comics basically has that exact origin.
BKatastrophe
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Oh my goodness, A custom graphic tee site with a shirt size that'll fit me?!
Delta Assault
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Yeah... I'm sensing that too.
The only thing that doesn't really add up is Hunter's past. He had a very tragic past. Eddie so far hasn't really had any of that revealed and doesn't seem troubled at all.
Eddie was originally described as a recent transfer to the Central City Police Department, whose past is a mystery and who harbors a dark secret. They just haven't really delved into it, focusing more on Wells. Also I think the friendship with Barry and relationship with Iris are more important to any descent into villainy than a troubled past, because eventually they'll hurt him badly.
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Delta Assault
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Ehhhh... I think I'd much prefer the troubled past of Hunter Zolomon. I thought that was really well done in Johns' run in fleshing out his character, as opposed to just a very shallow and simplistic "I hate you because you stole my girlfriend!" descent into villainy.
Not something so simple as that. More the idea that Eddie's world and support system crumbles around him. A girlfriend who leaves him, a best friend that betrays him, his partner dying (let's be honest Joe is too nice to live forever) and the knowledge that his family line is doomed to be brutal killers. Turns into a twisted hero worship story quite easily. Throw in some flashbacks to show how bad his childhood was and you've got a great ticking time bomb villain that builds up over a long time, transforms mid season two while Grodd is being his bad self, takes the stage in season three and ends it by killing Barry only for Wally to take over. Everybody wins!
With Agent Carter gone, hope rests with Daredevil and the Netflix Marvel shows. But that's a discussion for a different topic.
Miles Quaritch
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Marvel can still catch up if they are willing to invest. CW, as great as they are, can't keep up the quality of their shows as budgets always end up getting slashed and that by itself ends up restricting what the show runners can do going forward.
What we've seen with Flash so far feels like something they won't be able to keep up into a second and third season. While we don't have any figures and probably never will, it wouldn't surprise me if Flash was their most expensive show to date just based on how effects heavy it is.
Then again, maybe the cost of using those effects has dropped as technology has advanced and they aren't breaking the bank?
Technology improves and costs drop. Budgets get cut. It's whichever drops more that determines how the effects quality change.
On the other side, your cast and VFX team improve but you also have to pay them more.
That's what I always presumed, that as technology grows certain effects become easier to produce and thus budget can be pushed on other aspects. Of course who knows, I doubt these companies want to tell their secrets.
I feel like these TV shows can easily last far longer than a season, just look at Arrow. The universe is expansive, and with tie-ins it allows them to go nuts on fan service. If the fans are there then I don't see them stopping anytime soon.
As costs go down, budget gets slashed to match rather than redistributed. Amell's mentioned the budget they had in season one was much more than what they had for season two, and three is even less.
Napoleonthechimp
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This explains a lot.
The only justice is for it to be Wells to actually get paralyzed.
When his powers aren't fully 'charged' or whatever it appears he has trouble walking.
Dirtyshubb
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It seems so wrong to do that, i mean especially considering how well season 2 was regarded you would think they would at least keep the budget the same, if not increase it considering you know the show is worth it and is at a point where you have the most eyes on you.
But i suppose all companies every care about is the bottom line and "How can we milk this as much as possible, just enough to not kill it off?"
Yes, it is basically a dirty move to maximize profits. AMC is really bad at doing it, TWD and Mad Men both had issues with it.
On the other hand, most actors and some crew have stipulations in their contracts that their pay increases over time so that's an expense that builds up slowly. Once contracts are up they can demand significantly higher sums - if the show is a huge hit we're talking six figure pay rises - so it's well known that past a certain age, roughly 5-7 years the shows get more expensive no matter what so budget cuts become a necessity. For long running CW shows they have to change things up. Smallville's cast got smaller over time and actors didn't appear in all 22 episodes other than Welling. Supernatural has a very small regular cast so that probably keeps costs down. It really becomes slash budgets or die, unless you're a Friends level hit. And that still didn't stop AMC with TWD haha.
Trickster
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Why is barry such a scrawny guy? I did a quick google image search, and the dude look nothing like his comic book counterpart? Comic flash is a buff motherfucker, so why isn't tv series flash just remotely athletic?
I don't read comicbook at all, so bear with me if this seems like a dumb question
I don't read comicbook at all, so bear with me if this seems like a dumb question
Did Agent Carter not get renewed?
Septimus Prime
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Okay, back to the mega-spoiler. After I wrote my joke response last night, I actually watched the latest Arrow and had a thought:
Who don't we see in the pic? Ray fucking Palmer. I'll bet their (they being Oliver) plan is having Ray hiding in shrunken mode right on RF. From the looks of the pic, it looks like RF is giving the heroes some sort of "You can't stop me" gloat, but I'll bet Ray is already there, about the fuck up his inner ear or something.
Not as of yet, and it's looking moderately unlikely.
Delta Assault
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Comic books usually draw superheroes with a buff, Superman build. Flash is supposed to have a leaner, runner's body, but this is usually disregarded in favor of maintaining the idealized superhero genre look.
A lot of comic artists are also incapable of drawing more than one standard physique or face.
Septimus Prime
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Maybe he can do the Spartacus boot camp.
I wish I could get in on that, except:
1. I don't have the time, and
2. I doubt I could do it, and
3. I would probably die (See point 2).
I wish I could get in on that, except:
1. I don't have the time, and
2. I doubt I could do it, and
3. I would probably die (See point 2).
Man I really wanted to like this week's episode. I love time travel so the set up from last week was great. Instead, they almost threw it away and just added another Snart storyline that could have been used as a standalone any other time.
I don't feel the time travel element was used much at all or to at least in the capacity they could have used it. They just slapped a different villain on top. Also, Iris is a bitch and Cisco is apparently the most genius of geniuses but for only that episode. Bah.
Still loving this show and not sure why it's not getting more attention than it is. CW I guess.
I don't feel the time travel element was used much at all or to at least in the capacity they could have used it. They just slapped a different villain on top. Also, Iris is a bitch and Cisco is apparently the most genius of geniuses but for only that episode. Bah.
Still loving this show and not sure why it's not getting more attention than it is. CW I guess.
call_kotaku
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If they can get 2 (3?) shows with 20+ episode orders for the same price as a more well-received single show I don't see why they wouldn't do it. Low episode orders are also generally pretty fantastic, but I don't think the format incentivizes it (as opposed to something like Netflix or HBO).
Hours Left
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I don't think he's scrawny, but I agree that he should probably consider bulking up a bit. It was fine in the beginning, but now that he's improved his abilities so much, his body should reflect that IMO.
23 episode seasons sell overseas for more money and reach syndication numbers faster. More money made, and syndication prospects are important to keeping shows alive.
No but it isn't likely. No syndication hopes there, not a lot of stations internationally buying the show alongside Shield. Ratings not terrible but it can't make money elsewhere.
Gross no. We don't need every superhero on our screens to be super buff. Barry can punch hard regardless of muscle so there's no point anyway, and Gustin is already sexy as hell.
Discotheque
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I wish. I don't really think CW can handle 23 episodes. Arrow has suffered from it
15 would be the sweet spot, could have a few one-shot episodes, cuts down the revolving door romance plot and keeps the pace tight as hell
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