Dunedain_Ranger
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Called it months ago.
WrestleMania |OT| Look at the adjective,
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Roland_Gunner
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Well no, if he was good at it then he'd have known that Orton was lying to his face and have a plan to avoid getting murdered for 15 minutes straight. This shows he's BAD at being a chickenshit heel, which is generally not what you want from a champion. Your argument only makes sense if you assume that Rollins intentionally let Orton beat the crap out of him so people would forget about him, which makes sense from a 'work the fans' standpoint but is TNA levels of stupid booking.
BronsonLee
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It's not ass backwards when the other two people in the three way dance have been wrestling for 20 minutes and beating the shit out of each other
Cena got more cheer tonight than roman has gotten in like 6 weeks, it doesn't if they boo cena because he. Already made unlike Roman.
That was a solid Wrestlemania. I don't think it matched WM30, but it was respectable.
-Tag title match was decent, right team won.
-Battle Royale was entertaining even if the win was wasted on Big Slow.
-Ladder match was pretty hype, some good spots.
-Orton Rollins had the best RKO ever.
-Diva match was decent
-Trips vs Sting felt ripped right out of 1999
-CENA WINS LOL
-Taker Bray was fine.
-Roman was destroyed for 15 minutes by Brock and then Seth walked out champ
-Tag title match was decent, right team won.
-Battle Royale was entertaining even if the win was wasted on Big Slow.
-Ladder match was pretty hype, some good spots.
-Orton Rollins had the best RKO ever.
-Diva match was decent
-Trips vs Sting felt ripped right out of 1999
-CENA WINS LOL
-Taker Bray was fine.
-Roman was destroyed for 15 minutes by Brock and then Seth walked out champ
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Plan A has always been for Rollins to win, I think. The other half of the question was whether Lesnar came back for more with WWE. If he doesn't; then Reigns beats Lesnar, Rollins pins Reigns, voila. But since Lesnar signed another deal; they can just go straight to Rollins from Lesnar, because Lesnar is now around.
I think Lesnar was the unknown quantity; if Lesnar did not come back, then you wouldn't want Rollins to win directly from Lesnar and then Lesnar disappears forever. Would be a weird story transition.
Reigns has had, by all accounts, the longest line at AXXESS all weekend, and at house shows, gets the second biggest pop behind Cena on a consistent basis. Let me clear up a misconception that we smarks keep lying to ourselves about.
RAW is not representative of the WWE fanbase. Neither are PPV crowds. We are minorities. WWE knows that. WWE knows who actually buys their stuff; who actually spends money, who has the longest lines at AXXESS. We lie to ourselves. We need to get over ourselves. These are the same fans who chanted "WHAT" at the HoF last night. The RAW / PPV fans are becoming the heels and the new marks. This entire WM was basically a repudiation of everything they've "thought" would happen for months. From Bryan getting the royal treatment to Rollins cashing in. To putting out the fake rumor for "Brock / Rock" to set up the Ronda & Rock segment.
Reigns and Rollins are both the chosen ones.
Reigns is the chosen face and Rollins the heel.
I strongly believe Rollins cashing in and winning was always going to happen. I just think WWE's planned end game had Reigns winning clean tonight and Rollins cashing in on Raw or by the next PPV.
Reigns is the chosen face and Rollins the heel.
I strongly believe Rollins cashing in and winning was always going to happen. I just think WWE's planned end game had Reigns winning clean tonight and Rollins cashing in on Raw or by the next PPV.
MaulerX
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Exactly. Nobody interfered on Stings behalf to give him an edge. Sting actually fought of the DX crew. Sting gets super kicked by Michaels. Sting gets hit in the face with the head of the Sledgehammer. The dirtiest of wins. Then they book a kiss and make up hug fest at the end like Sting was supposed to be OK with all of that? Embarrassing actually.
Serpens007
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The problem wasn't the hug fest, was the build up. It wasn't clear, it was bad. The thing was WCW vs WWE more than Sting vs Authority, but yeah, it is 15 years late for that. I don't think it could have been better, there was no way it could have been better. It was destined to be a cluster fuck. At least it was fun.
Of course they had to be "Ok" with the hug fest. WWE has won over WCW for 15 years, Sting couldn't change that and had to accept it.
Or, I don't know, he will retire now.
Officerrob
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Cena was over for years before some of the crowd turned on him, it's not even close to the same thing
blackaroni
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Motherfucker is amazing. You hear that broken sledgehammer analogy?
Ninja Scooter
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We can still go, DM. We can still go!
MegaKungFuRadio
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Dark Ninja
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Its time for the Chavo Guerrero hair transplant
You make it sound like they're actually fighting out there. Either way you look at it, it doesn't make sense unless you want it to.
Agreed.
Ninja Scooter
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The whole hug and handshake thing is the way you do a finish when one guy (Sting) likely is a one and done and isn't coming back.
I though this too at first.
Then I thought about it some more and realized it made sense. If he waited for the match to finish, you have the winner potentially on his feet after whooping his opponents ass, ready for another fight. Rollins cashed in right at the moment when both men were down, so I can kinda see the logic there.
Either way, I'm just happy Brock didn't get pinned.
darkside31337
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Disagree with this. Both guys were wounded ducks and it enabled him a way to win without having to worry about pinning Lesnar - something he couldn't do in the triple threat match for the title he was in. If Lesnar retained when was he supposed to cash it in? The guy only shows up once every couple months anyway
serenewarfare
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Whatever you say, man. All I know is that I haven't seen Roman get a fraction of Cena's reaction in months. But hey, if you want to believe otherwise, go for it.
Except Sting is probably gonna retire Taker next year
blackaroni
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Sting himself said he was probably one and done, although he did say if he wrestle one more after, he hoped for Taker at WM32.
Again, the smarkest thing ever, the wwe has never been able book anything long than 3 months, from all the stuff we known reigns was the guy until sometime this week.
Because the WWE has this weird thing where if someone is going to get pushed, they have to overdo their "burial" so that it will be a surprise when they rise. This happens all the freaking time. That beatdown should have been another giant clue Seth was getting something big.
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Deleted member 8095
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Do you want a pat on the back? Anyone with a pulse that watches wrestling knew that spot was coming. It's like saying you called Cena hitting the 5 MOD. Not exactly predicting lottery numbers here.
Jimmy King
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real talk though that ladder match was garbage, was there anything original in it at all? any story? any drama? people thought that was gonna overshadow reigns/lesnar
MegaKungFuRadio
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Could have been a bucket list thing.
BronsonLee
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What on earth are you babbling about
Both dudes were laid out, Rollins runs in, gimme dat belt, peace easy. There's been much worse attempts at cash-ins before
Ninja Scooter
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Neither of these guys seem like they know if they are gonna go next month, let alone next year. It's very possible this was it.
Vestal
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its a sad picture really. Sting is the only true WCW guy in that picture. That match was a fan circle jerk in all honesty.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't have a problem with Sting losing for one reason: because its not real so neither party really gains anything. I'm fairly certain Sting didn't sign up not knowing what was going to happen. The point was letting him have a cool Wrestlemania match. Given there's nothing on the line at all, who cares if he wins? Hell, him losing was a pretty big swerve.
All I can think is the time Sting said that he didn't trust that WWE would do his character right since he wasn't their creation.
The match tonight was basically that in action.
Ninja Scooter
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If Sting does go again he needs to just stop trying to do the Scorpion Death Lock. Just stop.
Nah. Taker wins this year so he doesn't go into WM32 and loses 3 straight Mania matches. Sting lost this year so that he can get a win next year. This is probably one of the few things actually planned out .
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Honestly I find this hard to believe. They gave Rollins the burial treatment for like a month, the kind MITB winners almost always get before they cash in. They put him in an angle with Jon Stewart. They decided that Reigns wasn't the guy so Rollins is instead? They could have just kept the title on Lesnar considering hes not going anywhere.
Serpens007
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real talk though that ladder match was garbage, was there anything original in it at all? any story? any drama? people thought that was gonna overshadow reigns/lesnar
I think it was fun, but wasn't the match of the night as it could have been. I think with two or three less people there, could have been better. Truth and Stardust felt so out of place.
Quoting just to have the truth on a new page.
"It has people we like except the black one and the three guys we like the absolute most therefore it's going to be amazing but that's an objective opinion and not at all colored by my fandom"
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At least Hall looks even healthier than he did last year. I was shocked that they let him take a bump. Glad he still seems to be doing well.
slightconfuse
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Triple H needed a win anyway. Dude has been a big loser the bast 2 years. Beat brock once. Last win before that was punk
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