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[HeisenbergLannister]

So many females are getting Seth nudes with him only wearing the title right now.

 

[Heroman]

Stolen from another board, but dead on



So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

Never, cause reigns was always the guy.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Wyatt/Taker blew. Why even have it if Bray was gonna lose? Why are you so behind someone in terms of marketing yet ALWAYS have him lose big matches?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Stolen from another board, but dead on



So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

There's people here who are insistent that WWE just casually gave Rollins MITB for no reason at all. Because they want to pretend they didn't get fooled. It's ok to get worked.

This is all according to keikaku.

 

[reptilescorpio]

I counted 3; F5s, German Suplexes, and Slaps.

Did you watch the match? That clothesline on the ropes was fucking insane! Surprised you could forget something like that tbh.

 

[kirblar]

Stolen from another board, but dead on

So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

After the disaster that was RR, I was certain Seth was winning tonight based on how he was being treated.

I suspect the original plan was simply Reigns beats Lesnar, Rollins beats Reigns, but they did a great job repairing it tonight.

 

[Toki767]

Stolen from another board, but dead on



So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

Because wrestling isn't real?

 

[Penguin]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

 

[Heroman]

The idea that wwe was doing a year long work is the smarkest thing I have ever heard.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

Taker winning this year subtly reinforces that Brock winning IS a big deal - that it's more about Brock's strength to win as opposed to Taker's age.

 

[Eidan]

Mania was incredibly fun. Despite the fact that I wasnt a fan of the main event's booking, there was an undeniable big event feel. I think the match was fun (loved Reigns' chuckle while getting his ass beat), though I would have appreciated more moves from both Lesnar and Reigns. Ending was also great.

BTW, people thinking WWE is off the Reigns train are delusional. I spent four days at Axxess. The motherfucker is insanely popular. He's being perfectly groomed to be the new Cena.

 

[The Albatross]

Because wrestling isn't real?

How does this reply even make sense

 

[Paracelsus]

The idea that wwe was doing a year long work is the smarkest thing I have ever.

They pulled a Batista II, whoever thinks otherwise could be in denial.

 

[bishoptl]

We're in OT so awhile.

you'd think so huh

 

[Ithil]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

It would have, but then Lesnar re-signed.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Even the post your quoting says that Rollins was the in case of emergency option, which is what he was. Saying this was always the plan ignores all the episodes of RAW where the WWE was basically screaming that Reigns was the guy. You would have to think that that having Bryan and Heyman putting Reigns over huge was a red herring. Which doesn't make any sense. Plan A was to have Reigns win, then Rollins cash in and they would feud during the summer. We got plan B tonight.

 

[Heroman]

Mania was incredibly fun. Despite the fact that I wasnt a fan of the main event's booking, there was an undeniable big event feel. I think the match was fun (loved Reigns' chuckle while getting his ass beat), though I would have appreciated more moves from both Lesnar and Reigns. Ending was also great.

BTW, people thinking WWE is off the Reigns train are delusional. I spent four days at Axxess. The motherfucker is insanely popular. He's being perfectly groomed to be the new Cena.

He was? It didn't sound like it.

 

[BronsonLee]

So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

I said this earlier, but I think Rollins was the endgame after the Rumble turned out the way it did; if it had gone normally, Rollins would've cashed in on Reigns after, likely. But yeah, they were clearly setting it up with Rollins being the chosen one with the Authority, but Stewart and fans pointing out that he isn't in the title match at Mania, etc raised my eyebrows a bit.

But yeah, I think the second they put Reigns with Bryan for Fastlane, he was the red herring.

There's people here who are insistent that WWE just casually gave Rollins MITB for no reason at all. Because they want to pretend they didn't get fooled. It's ok to get worked.

This is all according to keikaku.

Keikaku means Plan B

 

[Courage]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

I think the fact that he still has that aura is enough. He'll be back and hopefully be facing Daniel Bryan.

 

[DanielMann]

Triple H vs Sting, ok, here's the thing, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS EXPECTED, UH? It was going to be a boring, slow, gassed out match. We knew it, and it looks that they knew it. nWo vs DX was a smart move to get reactions, and not have an standard match. HHH now officialy has buried the entire WCW guys lol

The match itself was (I guess) entertaining...if this had been 2001 then I would have marked out like crazy at the sight of it, but it was the hug fest. The big old pointless hug fest.

After all that build of having Sting fuck with the authority, it ends with a big old hug fest? For further shits and giggles, lets have HHH try to carry on the angle with his requisite arrogant promo later on which just further strokes egos. What's the point? What's the point of any of this? Its just more disposable trash made meaningless.

I get it, I wasn't expecting a 5 star match from these guys and the sight of DX and NWO is kind of cool...but its just that typical pandering BS that irks me. Even in the context of the story they're trying to tell, it makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Deleted member 8095]

Wyatt/Taker blew. Why even have it if Bray was gonna lose? Why are you so behind someone in terms of marketing yet ALWAYS have him lose big matches?

It wasn't a great match. However, Wyatt's character doesn't need to win matches or have titles to be over. In fact, his character probably cares very little about his win/loss record.

 

[Toki767]

How does this reply even make sense

It doesn't matter what they're doing with Rollins. The end game is still to get the belt on Reigns. Which means Reigns is the chosen one.

 

[serenewarfare]

Mania was incredibly fun. Despite the fact that I wasnt a fan of the main event's booking, there was an undeniable big event feel. I think the match was fun (loved Reigns' chuckle while getting his ass beat), though I would have appreciated more moves from both Lesnar and Reigns. Ending was also great.

BTW, people thinking WWE is off the Reigns train are delusional. I spent four days at Axxess. The motherfucker is insanely popular. He's being perfectly groomed to be the new Cena.

He sounded real popular tonight. And last Monday. And the Monday before that. And pretty much every Monday going back about four months.

 

[Penguin]

I think the fact that he still has that aura is enough. He'll be back and hopefully be facing Daniel Bryan.

Well guess more in the sense that he didn't need to beat Taker to have that aura

I think just being a suplex machine has done wonders for him

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Well guess more in the sense that he didn't need to beat Taker to have that aura

I think just being a suplex machine has done wonders for him

Well he did need to gain back the shit he lost, jobbing on his first appearance back and half to Trips.

 

[Allforce]

I don't know shit about current wrestling other than the casual bitching and stories linked by gaming-industry people on Twitter, but I watch Wrestlemania every year with some buds who are all ex-fans like m (Attitude Era shit).

Was this guy stealing the title a good thing? I don't know a single thing about him, all I know is fans hate Reigns because he's not Daniel Bryan and the guy is being shoved down fans throats as a face yet nobody likes the guy.

 

[NateDrake]

you'd think so huh

Oh snap. GAF's Brock Lesnar has shown up and is ready to kick some ass.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

Anyone who watched the Rumble and believes they had this shit planned all along is delusional. They brought the fucking Rock in just so people would cheer for this dork and even that didn't work.

 

[Lingitiz]

I'm guessing original plan was Roman beats Brock taking both the streak and title away from him, but loses to Rollins to set up that feud while Brock goes away to UFC.

With his re-signing they had to protect him and the streak for the foreseeable future so we got what happened tonight. Brock still looks crazy unbeatable, Rollins gets the title. Only loose end is Roman looks ridiculously weak which I'm okay with.

 

[Deleted member 8095]

Now that Bryan/Cena have the IC/US titles can we please stop having the champion lose EVERY non-championship match? One of my biggest pet peeves.

 

[BronsonLee]

It doesn't matter what they're doing with Rollins. The end game is still to get the belt on Reigns. Which means Reigns is the chosen one.

Well that's the thing with pro wrestling; you have to constantly keep going. They may want Reigns to get there, but this was the stage for Rollins. He was the chosen one for this year's Mania.

 

[Cagey]

Rollins has always been one of the guys WWE believes is a megastar in waiting. Reigns clearly is seen that way too. It's been obvious since the Shield split. It's not a zero sum game that there's One Guy.

 

[Ithil]

Mania was incredibly fun. Despite the fact that I wasnt a fan of the main event's booking, there was an undeniable big event feel. I think the match was fun (loved Reigns' chuckle while getting his ass beat), though I would have appreciated more moves from both Lesnar and Reigns. Ending was also great.

BTW, people thinking WWE is off the Reigns train are delusional. I spent four days at Axxess. The motherfucker is insanely popular. He's being perfectly groomed to be the new Cena.

Oh yes, the elusive "over at house shows" pop.

 

[Toki767]

I don't know shit about current wrestling other than the casual bitching and stories linked by gaming-industry people on Twitter, but I watch Wrestlemania every year with some buds who are all ex-fans like m (Attitude Era shit).

Was this guy stealing the title a good thing? I don't know a single thing about him, all I know is fans hate Reigns because he's not Daniel Bryan and the guy is being shoved down fans throats as a face yet nobody likes the guy.

He is basically one of if not the most talented guy on the roster.

 

[Dark Ninja]

Stolen from another board, but dead on



So, when do we all want to admit that Rollins has actually been the chosen one the entire time; and Reigns was a red herring? Because looking back, anyone who didn't read the dirtsheets and immediately believe them would have thought Rollins was the chosen one (especially when you think they had Rollins with Jon Stewart, and not Reigns...or that Rollins was being protected through feuds and having feuds with good opponents unlike Reigns).

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

Reigns was chosen 2 to 3 years ago to be next guy. Thats why the shield was even formed to protect Reigns as he learned to actually wrestle and talk which he hasn't yet. Reigns got to skip NXT after two matches. If your trying to say that WWE planned this two years ago I call bullshit because they can't even plan what they are going to do next week

 

[darkside31337]

The idea that wwe was doing a year long work is the smarkest thing I have ever heard.

They book entire Wrestlemania matches and main events a year in advance. I don't think it was that crazy to think Rollins, not Reigns, was the guy they wanted to give a big push all along.

They couldn't have done this same kind of finish if Daniel Bryan or really anyone else won the RR instead of Reigns.

Honestly find this more plausible than WWE deciding Reigns wasnt ready... so they give the title to Rollins instead.

 

[Officerrob]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

Depends, I think people forget that Brock was kinda floundering going into Mania last year.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Was at a WM party with friends, and his mother (who watched in the attitude era but picked it up again recently) was confused as to why they thought Roman Reigns was the chosen one; she's thought Rollins was the chosen one.

Also, anyone who wants to push the Rollins as chosen one angle needs to explain why just two weeks ago the WWE made him look like a complete chump when Orton lied to his face and then tortured Seth for 15 straight minutes to end the show.

 

[serenewarfare]

Rollins has always been one of the guys WWE believes is a megastar in waiting. Reigns clearly is seen that way too. It's been obvious since the Shield split. It's not a zero sum game that there's One Guy.

Rollins will be a top guy, just not the top guy. He'll be the Orton to Reigns' Cena.

Reigns was chosen 2 to 3 years ago to be next guy. Thats why the shield was even formed to protect Reigns as he learned to actually wrestle and talk which he hasn't yet. Reigns got to skip NXT after two matches. If your trying to say that WWE planned this two years ago I call bullshit because they can't even plan what they are going to do next week

The Shield wasn't created for Reigns (originally he wasn't even going to be in it), but it was used to protect him for sure.

 

[Eidan]

He was? It didn't sound like it.

Do you think Cena isn't popular because 25-30 year old men boo him?

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

Now that Bryan/Cena have the IC/US titles can we please stop having the champion lose EVERY non-championship match? One of my biggest pet peeves.

That would be nice. I won't be holding my breath. Especially in Bryan's case.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Also, anyone who wants to push the Rollins as chosen one angle needs to explain why just two weeks ago the WWE made him look like a complete chump when Orton lied to his face and then tortured Seth for 15 straight minutes to end the show.

He's a chickenshit heel and he's good at it. When you're carrying the MITB case and you're gonna surprise people, you fly under the radar. The Orton/Rollins match was designed so you'd forget about it. They dropped hints for a long time, which is why I'd been so staunchly in Seth's corner that either tonight or tomorrow he'd have that title - and there you go.

 

[SmithnCo]

I'm guessing original plan was Roman beats Brock taking both the streak and title away from him, but loses to Rollins to set up that feud while Brock goes away to UFC.

With his re-signing they had to protect him and the streak for the foreseeable future so we got what happened tonight. Brock still looks crazy unbeatable, Rollins gets the title. Only loose end is Roman looks ridiculously weak which I'm okay with.

They had Roman kick out of all that while smiling so they're definitely protecting him too. I appreciated that Brock no sold a lot of his shit though. Brock definitely was the monster there.

 

[MetalFearSolid]

So here's my question... did Taker need to lose to Brock last year in hindsight?

Brock still has that aura about him, but it wasn't used to put over someone new this year

Taker winning this year subtly reinforces that Brock winning IS a big deal - that it's more about Brock's strength to win as opposed to Taker's age.

It goes to what should have happened when Lesnar first arrived should have destroyed Cena instead of losing to Extreme Rules, and losing to Triple H at Wrestlemania. I remember listening to Jericho and Edge say something similar in a podcast frankly Lesnar could have remained a hot commodity, Taker could have faced Wyatt or another opponent last year instead kept streak intact till he decides he doesn't want to wrestle anymore and decide to put someone over as a professional courtesy or lose to Lesnar few years later.

 

[GQman2121]

I thought it was a ridiculous finish to an above average main event.

Why would Rollins run out during the match and cash in?That makes no logical sense at all. Money in the bank is designed to put the holder in an advantageous position. To cash in and put yourself into a three way dance is completely ass backwards.

That finish was nothing more than the bookers using the briefcase as a device to right their past mistakes.

I think it was a good way to have Brock look strong and put the strap on Rollins, but it was botched in its execution.

 

[darkside31337]

Also, anyone who wants to push the Rollins as chosen one angle needs to explain why just two weeks ago the WWE made him look like a complete chump when Orton lied to his face and then tortured Seth for 15 straight minutes to end the show.

They've done this type of thing all the time with MITB winners before just not at WM. The idea is to completely dismiss the notion of a cashin, you are honestly supposed to just forget hes even going to do it. It worked.

 

[16BitNova]

I told y'all Roman wouldn't win. Rollins saved us.

 

[blackaroni]

This guy on LAW is amazing.

 

[Angry Grimace]

As far as I know they're both married with children - however that isn't a definitive indictment of their sexuality, which I honestly don't care which way they swing. It's not my business.

I'm pretty sure Noble's entire gimmick was sloppy make out sessions with that one girl in the middle of the ring

 

[Toki767]

With Reigns not winning the title, the percentage of Rumble winners who didn't win the title at Mania has finally fallen under 50%. So that gimmick is dead.