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foxtrot3d said:
Arrow sucks starting out but at about Ep. 12 or so the first season finally finds its footing and starts getting good. And then it gets pretty darn good and ends really great. And then S2 happens and you're like WHAT?! THIS IS AMAZING!! And now we're on S3 which is pretty much WOAH! Wait, huh? Okay... zzzz YAY! What?! Da Fuck?! Batman? Fuck yeah! Alright, guess I'll just have to wait it out til I can judge it all.
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This is the best description of Arrow I've ever seen.
 
neojubei said:
With everything that has happened I feel like the show is in season five. Most shows would drag out the wells secret for a few seasons
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My only worry is what will things actually be like in season 5? It's going to be hard to top this season and it's only the first.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Don't you mean a few months?
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Er, yeah. I haven't really been paying attention. I thought it was coming late next year.

Septimus Prime said:
For me, there is no differentiation. Like, despite his talents and various roles, Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker, so if I see him playing someone else, I see Luke Skywalker as that character. So it's Hamill as Skywalker as James Jesse. It also doesn't help that he was also kind of using his Joker voice the whole time.

For him in particular, it's even worse, since Luke is his only major role.
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That makes sense, but I try to separate actors from their iconic roles when I can. Like if someone had made a Harry Potter reference in Woman in Black or Horns, that would have immensely diminished my enjoyment of those movies. It breaks my immersion and feels like it's admitting to being an inferior product, lucky to have cast one of the actors from the greater work.

Shadownet said:
You're such a party pooper.

Watch they make a little joke about how his apprentice will take on a different name and be like... "The Joker" ha I would laugh my butt off.
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Poop.
 
Holy shit after this last episode I just thought of something.

Preview (and potential) spoilers:
I was thinking how radical a departure it would be for Eddie to suddenly go to shooting cops, but what if Eobard copies his DNA similar to what he did to Wells once his identity gets exposed? Granted they would have to explain why Eobard would do that since it could damage his future.
 
Ithil said:
SHIELD and Flash were both on fire this week. Arrow has a high bar to reach.
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My prediction.
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Hope I'm wrong though.
 
liliththepale said:
That makes sense, but I try to separate actors from their iconic roles when I can. Like if someone had made a Harry Potter reference in Woman in Black or Horns, that would have immensely diminished my enjoyment of those movies. It breaks my immersion and feels like it's admitting to being an inferior product, lucky to have cast one of the actors from the greater work.
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Woman in Black was better because of Harry Potter to me. "Kadavra that bitch, 'arry!"

Movie wasn't all that great to begin with, though.

EDIT: Also try watching Drag Me to Hell while picturing Justin Long as the Mac guy.
 
Gartooth said:
Holy shit after this last episode I just thought of something.

Preview (and potential) spoilers:
I was thinking how radical a departure it would be for Eddie to suddenly go to shooting cops, but what if Eobard copies his DNA similar to what he did to Wells once his identity gets exposed? Granted they would have to explain why Eobard would do that since it could damage his future.
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Dude.

He could totally be his own great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather that way!
 
Messypandas said:
I'm thinking Eddie
is being controlled by Grodd when he shoots the cops
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Agreed.

I am thinking that the current resentment he must already feel for Barry in addition this event leads him down a dark path.

Not so dark that he does not have progeny though...

I would prefer it if the writers resisted taking him to a dark place though. After Joe bites it, Eddie could be a good replacement.
 
G-Fex said:
agents of Shield is still on tv? lol
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It's a solid show. I'm still enjoying it. Flash is just pure fun at the moment. It suffers a lot of the same problems that Arrow has had over it's run but Flash's high points let you look past them. Shield is still more enjoyable than Arrow this season.
 
The Light said:
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?
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I really hope they explain this further sometimes.

inb4 speedforce.
 
Loved, loved, loved this episode. It's astonishing how quickly this show has gotten so good.

Also, assuming that Barry stops Eobard and saves his mom, he should also save the real Harrison Wells in the process, and that should help keep Tom Cavanaugh around in the future.
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Someone on Badass Digest posted this. Not sure how I feel about saving Barry's mom working, but if stopping Thawne allows us to keep Cavanaugh around as a genuine mentor figure I'm all for it
 
Anyone remember this from over a year ago? The script for the Flash movie Marc Guggenheim and Greg Berlanti wrote leaked at some point a long while ago and this site had a review of it back at the end of 2013, I don't remember this coming up before. A lot of the ideas from it carried over to this series and as such some of the ideas from it might still be coming and could be very spoilerish. I imagine with a bit of searching the full script could be found.

So again, potential spoiler warning if you look at this.

http://www.superheromoviesnews.com/...-Marc-Guggenheim-The-Flash-Script-Review.html
 
The Technomancer said:
Someone on Badass Digest posted this. Not sure how I feel about saving Barry's mom working, but if stopping Thawne allows us to keep Cavanaugh around as a genuine mentor figure I'm all for it
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The real Wells doesn't know any of the characters though, the dynamics would be completely different. If anything, Barry/Caitlin/Cisco would be mentors to Wells rather than the other way around.
 
The Light said:
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?
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I always thought whenever he time traveled with the speed force, the time he originally left behind becomes an alternate reality. Meaning Barry left that world out when he warped back a day, meaning you probably can't just zap back into that reality.

If Eobard Thawne does return to the future, it had better be a day after he initially time traveled because if he goes before that during his lifetime, there would be two of them.

liliththepale said:
That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
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Lol thank goodness I never watched Star Wars. But usually with actors I disconnect them from previous roles, even if they act similar. I never thought Ace Ventura was in the Mask, Or that Human Torch was Captain America. You gotta develop temporary amnesia when it comes to acting.

I thought it was pretty funny when Hamill mentioned Breaking Bad season 5 lol

Edit: just got to thinking.. Do they (STAR labs) feed their prisoners? Where do they shit? And are they all doing life sentences?
 
Maffis said:
I really hope they explain this further sometimes.

inb4 speedforce.
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Barry makes a clone of himself and sends the clone back. During that process, realBarry's SpeedForce turns into SlowForce, causing him to hibernate for hundreds of years. Eventually the SlowForce wears off, like the half-life of a radiation explosion, but Barry doesn't remember anything about his old self. On his person are some elements from Eddie Thawne, but the future spelling of the name Eddie is Eobard, so he takes that as his name. After a few years more of thawing out, Eobard starts to regain SpeedForce, and along with that some messed up memories of the past. Eobard's life has been a tortured one in the future, so he hates past Barry for sending him here, so he plots to go back and kill baby Barry. Only baby Barry's mother got in the way. Barry, do you know why Professor Eobard couldn't bear to have you touch him? It was because of your mother. She sacrificed herself for you. And that kind of act leaves a mark, like a lightning shaped scar. Love, Barry. Love. You're a speedster, Barry. And a thumpin' good one too, I'd wager.
 
The Technomancer said:
Someone on Badass Digest posted this. Not sure how I feel about saving Barry's mom working, but if stopping Thawne allows us to keep Cavanaugh around as a genuine mentor figure I'm all for it
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I dunno. I feel like that would be a bit of a cheat. The Harrison Wells we've known is Thawn. Shoving a new Harrison Wells on us who somehow acts and behaves just like the Harrison Wells we've gotten to know is... it's disregarding that Harrison Wells was his own character and personality who we never actually got to know.

It's like that episode of Voyager where Harry Kim died and they just grabbed a replacement Kim from a parallel universe and pretended nothing had happened for the rest of the series. Just felt cheap.
 
liliththepale said:
That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
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I was fine with it. I mean, its not like the Trickster wasn't making other pop culture references
 
Blader said:
The real Wells doesn't know any of the characters though, the dynamics would be completely different. If anything, Barry/Caitlin/Cisco would be mentors to Wells rather than the other way around.
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Not necessarily. Flashpoint would happen, and then Barry would probably travel "back" to a new version of his own time, so 15+ years will still have elapsed since the change, and any number of things could be different. When New 52 started, Flash was back in the present era. It's not like we saw kid Bruce walking around, and Batman already met and worked with Dick, Jason, Todd, and Damien.
 
The Technomancer said:
I was fine with it. I mean, its not like the Trickster wasn't making other pop culture references
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Putting aside that I didn't care for his other pop culture references, this is different. If Star Wars exists in the Flash/Arrow-verse, then did James Jesse portray Luke Skywalker? Or did he just affect Mark Hamill's persona and likeness? It's weird to me, but I'll be the first to admit I'm probably just overthinking it and making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
I'm thinking Eddie's storyline will be a lot like Hunter Zolomon's, I think Grodd crippled HZ or something, that could be happen to Eddie but instead of getting crippled he gets mind controlled.
 
Error said:
I'm thinking Eddie's storyline will be a lot like Hunter Zolomon's, I think Grodd crippled HZ or something, that could be happen to Eddie but instead of getting crippled he gets mind controlled.
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Eddie doesn't have to pop this season. He's probably had the least screentime, it would be great to have Zoom lying in wait for a season or two.

Here's hoping Grodd for the season two Big Bad.
 
Error said:
I'm thinking Eddie's storyline will be a lot like Hunter Zolomon's, I think Grodd crippled HZ or something, that could be happen to Eddie but instead of getting crippled he gets mind controlled.
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I think he could still get crippled. They need to get him on that cosmic treadmill somehow.

BTW, we still need to soup that treadmill up into the cosmic treadmill. Hurry up Cisco.
 
liliththepale said:
Putting aside that I didn't care for his other pop culture references, this is different. If Star Wars exists in the Flash/Arrow-verse, then did James Jesse portray Luke Skywalker? Or did he just affect Mark Hamill's persona and likeness? It's weird to me, but I'll be the first to admit I'm probably just overthinking it and making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Canonical, Star Wars exists. It comes up at the Trivia Night.

Maybe James Jesse just looks a little like Hamill?
 
Alright reading all these wiki pages on different Flash characters has my comic book reading mojo pumping. Is there is a recommended reading list like that Guardians of the Galaxy one I always see for The Flash?

Comic Spoilers (I think?)
Should I start with stories featuring Jay Garrick and go from there or is there a suggested reading order? All this stuff about a Flash Museum, Cosmic Treadmills, Science Police has me really wanting to delve in to this world.
 
Judderman said:
Alright reading all these wiki pages on different Flash characters has my comic book reading mojo pumping. Is there is a recommended reading list like that Guardians of the Galaxy one I always see for The Flash?

Comic Spoilers (I think?)
Should I start with stories featuring Jay Garrick and go from there or is there a suggested reading order? All this stuff about a Flash Museum, Cosmic Treadmills, Science Police has me really wanting to delve in to this world.
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I'd get the Geoff Johns Flash Omnibus, vols 1 and 2. They're going for 50 bucks on amazon, I believe. They're hardcover and have about 10 trade paperbacks worth of material in each, so it's actually a bargain.
 
Amazing episode.

Loved that opening with RF and Barry fighting, was like seeing the comic book pages come to life.

Also loved Mark Hamill in it, so much fun haha.
 
Last night's episode was comma inducing with its awesomeness. The opening with The Flash and Reverse Flash was freakin' amazing.

Hamill was superb and campy which I loved. The unhygienic line was my favorite.

Thawne/Wells reveal whaaaaaaaaa?!

Eddie knows??

Iris...eh

I don't anything about The Flash comics, but damn I wish I did now. I'm sure I'm in for a great ride.
 
Certinty said:
That trailer is so damn good with a shitload of content it could be for a movie!

So. Fucking. Hyped.
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The great thing is, now that they've established this level of awesomeness for the tv show, that'll only spur the movie guys on to create even better and more impressive setpieces, since they know they have to top that.

Everybody wins.
 
Delta Assault said:
The great thing is, now that they've established this level of awesomeness for the tv show, that'll only spur the movie guys on to create even better and more impressive setpieces, since they know they have to top that.

Everybody wins.
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Can't imagine what its going to look like, especially since we didn't really see Supes use his speed. Only comparison might be Faora in the Smallville fight
 
jey_16 said:
Can't imagine what its going to look like, especially since we didn't really see Supes use his speed. Only comparison might be Faora in the Smallville fight
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Well, there's Quicksilver's setpiece in DOFP. That's another movie example, I suppose.

And we'll get Whedon's interpretation in Avengers AoU, of course.
 
Just finished watching last night's ep in full.

Yo, Barry's look as he turns away from shaking Wells' hand could murder a dude. ICE COLD.

If we take Flash as present day, Wells and Morgan successfully make the particle accelerator in 2020? So Thawne kills them both to accelerate it 5 years? Also, that means Barry gets his powers when he's what, 30 in that timeline?
 
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