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Out of all people they tell him about the flash? You gotta be kidding me... As if Joe couldn't have convinced her to drop the case.

Other than that great episode.

Not only that, I think Joe could have convinced him without revealing th flash's identity.

Joe just fucked Eddies head up big time. The guy he was already jealous of isn't some forensic dweeb, he's the fucking flash.

I didn't see the reason for the reveal
 
Listen to me Barry.
Breathe.
Breathe.
Feel the air, feel that wind on your face.
Feel the ground beneath your feet lifting you up, pushing you forward.
And the lightning, Barry, feel the lightning.
Feel its power, its electricity pumping through your veins.
Crackling through you, travelling to every nerve in your body like a shock.
You're no longer you now.
You're part of something greater.
You're part of a speed force.
It's yours.
Now do it.

Such an awesome moment, but in a way it's fucked up. He wants Barry to tap into the Speed Force for his own gain. Such a complex character.
 
Not only that, I think Joe could have convinced him without revealing th flash's identity.

Joe just fucked Eddies head up big time. The guy he was already jealous of isn't some forensic dweeb, he's the fucking flash.

I didn't see the reason for the reveal
Oh yeah that's also true....ouch. Man we knew he would have to know about it at some point because of the Thawne relation and backstory... But revealing it like this to the guy already seems to be the jealous type?
 
Such an awesome moment, but in a way it's fucked up. He wants Barry to tap into the Speed Force for his own gain. Such a complex character.

Awesome. I honesly felt goosebumps throughout most of this episode.

You should all caps the word SHOCK, he really emphasizes it

Man, what a great scene
 
I think when Thawne used that genetic camouflage it not only changed his outer appearance, but it also "bled" Wells' knowledge and memories into Thawne.

I think this is the reason Wells has a good side to him.

Every time Barry says "I can't" when trying something impossible, Wells always delivers a motivating speech/message which pushes Barry to the next level. I think if the real Thawne was in full control of the personality, he wouldn't be such a sweetheart with Barry, Cisco, etc. the only time we see Thawne "come out" is as RF and when he's off making someone "disappear". I'm of course using the reveal of the real RF as a reference to his actual personality.

Thawne may be smart, but he's not Harrison Wells smart. Just because he stole his face, doesn't make him make instantly know how to create the shit that caused the accident and Barry to get his powers. It just wouldn't make sense if he only stole his face, he even said "I need you to make that device (I forget the fucking name) a little earlier than 2020".. Killing him wouldn't make that happen, but stealing Wells' knowledge and memories is what would make him capable of building the machine. Just because you know what happens in the past, even with the information, doesn't mean you'd be able to make it.

Wells is in there, somewhere.

Oh and btw, Flash's streak is read, not yellow.. Which is why Iris dubbed him the red streak in earlier episodes. In close ups you can see some yellow lightning but when zoomed out it looks like a glowing red. RF has yellow streaks when running. I know it's supposed to be the other way around (comics and animation) but it appears red.

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I don't know man, dude is from another century (possibly more than one) all this 21ist century technology may be like child's play to him. Otherwise why did he kill Cisco? He said "you're smart but not that smart" implying that no matter how smart Cisco is in this century it will never match his knowledge from the 2X century. It's like asking for Isaac Newton's help in solving Einstein relativity equations or building a thermonuclear reactor.

I don't think it's far fetched to believe that Thawne has a good side and legit cares for many of these people, but from his perspective they're nothing but ghosts and his greater goal of returning to his time is more important than the lives of "dead people" to him.
 
Oh yeah that's also true....ouch. Man we knew he would have to know about it at some point because of the Thawne relation and backstory... But revealing it like this to the guy already seems to be the jealous type?

Not to mention his girlfriend's career and most of her day seems to revolve around Flash.
 
I can't believe we've got this many spectacular comic book shows on the air at one time.

Flash is my fave of the bunch, but I don't say that as a comparison to other great shows, just to show how much I love this one in particular.

They get Mark Hamill on screen saying "I... am your father." they've got truly complex and interesting villains on screen. Sometimes amazingly terrifying. They've fully accepted the camp of comic books without losing their grounding.

This is the comic book show I always hoped Smallville would try to be.

In conclusion... this episode sucked.
 
Woah. Dude that played mayor Bellows in that last episode also played officer bellows in the 1990 flash trial of the trickster episode... Kind of gives more depth to the tricksters lines.

mind blown.

Huh, that's a pretty cool tidbit, its crazy that they've found a way to incorporate some of the old show into this one
 
Does Arrow come anywhere close to Flash? I ended up getting bored with it half way through the first season.

Arrow sucks starting out but at about Ep. 12 or so the first season finally finds its footing and starts getting good. And then it gets pretty darn good and ends really great. And then S2 happens and you're like WHAT?! THIS IS AMAZING!! And now we're on S3 which is pretty much WOAH! Wait, huh? Okay... zzzz YAY! What?! Da Fuck?! Batman? Fuck yeah! Alright, guess I'll just have to wait it out til I can judge it all.
 
Man, I love how cool Barry's dad is with him being the Flash, and when he asked him what it felt like to run...DAMN. You could almost see how much he misses it.

Almost makes me wish his dad was the Flash too, if only they could figure out a way to bleed his original character into this one.

GODDAMN I just want Jay Garrick in this show. His dad is perfect for that role.
 
Out of all people they tell him about the flash? You gotta be kidding me... As if Joe couldn't have convinced her to drop the case.

Other than that great episode.

There was hardly any reason to keep Iris out of the loop before and now it's just ridiculous. Now we've got all the men in her life lying to her for the lamest of reasons...and she honestly isn't any safer than she would be if she knew. She still gets kidnapped and put in dangerous situations on a semi regular basis, and her status as "the reporter who has a direct line to The Flash" still puts a target on her back. The shit is dumb at this point.
 
Ya know, I was just thinking... when/if they do Flashpoint Paradox:

Maybe instead of fucking around with the Thomas Wayne/Robert Queen bullshit, which just sounds lame and wouldn't have that much impact (I don't give a rat's ass about Robert Queen), maybe they just change the timeline so that Barry gets killed instead of his mother, and his father becomes The Flash. Then we'd have the two Flashes, old and new, fighting together in this Flashpoint storyline. It gets us a bit of that Jay Garrick teamup flavor, a nice tribute to the original 90s Flash tv show, and the showrunners get to tell the Flashpoint story with a new wrinkle, and aren't just directly repeating the comic/animated film.
 
Woah. Dude that played mayor Bellows in that last episode also played officer bellows in the 1990 flash trial of the trickster episode... Kind of gives more depth to the tricksters lines.

mind blown.
One of my favorite things about this show is that the 90s Flash is semi-canon.
 
Damn. You know the episode was insane when there are 10+ new pages of discussion the next morning!

I'm really sad for the real Wells, though. Seemed like such a stand up guy who got fucked so bad.

When Barry was sitting in front of superjail, I was kind of hoping he would release all the prisoners and have them go up against RF.

Also, quick aside: Vader never actually says, "Luke, I am your father" in the Star Wars trilogy. He says something more like, "No. I am your father," in the middle of a conversation.
 
I loved Arrow for first two seasons, this season has been weak sauce

Same here. Season 2 is so dam good. I think this season's problem is Ra's isn't around enough and there was a ton of 'throw away' episodes that were for nothing.

I still can't believe how good this season of Flash is though. It's truly amazing.
 
Not to mention his girlfriend's career and most of her day seems to revolve around Flash.

There was hardly any reason to keep Iris out of the loop before and now it's just ridiculous. Now we've got all the men in her life lying to her for the lamest of reasons...and she honestly isn't any safer than she would be if she knew. She still gets kidnapped and put in dangerous situations on a semi regular basis, and her status as "the reporter who has a direct line to The Flash" still puts a target on her back. The shit is dumb at this point.

True story - this would have been a dumb move for Barry...but you would think that between him and Joe someone would realize that this might not be the best person and time to reveal his identity to.
THE PROMO OF THE YEAR

HOLY SHIT THE HYPE IS REAL

What the hell..thats just the promo for the next episode ?

What a ridiculous season 1 this show is getting, will be tough to top that on the next season.
 
Same here. Season 2 is so dam good. I think this season's problem is Ra's isn't around enough and there was a ton of 'throw away' episodes that were for nothing.

I still can't believe how good this season of Flash is though. It's truly amazing.

Arrow S3 spoilers below
I enjoyed the 1st half of the season up to Ollie's "death", but when the citizens of Sterling City run headfirst into giant street brawl against Brick's army of armed thugs and said thugs just gladly throw down their weapons and get to swinging, I raised an eyebrow and thought "Man, something is off here."

I still enjoy the show, but it's lost some of it's luster with this season. Hopefully they get their heads back on straight for S4.

Also, please stop showing Oliver just shoot an arrow into the sky and then just just fly away as if he has that plane system from TDK on standby.
 
Promo is badly titled. In its opening a text "this season on flash" is showed.

Oh okay...this makes way more sense because this would have been madness just for the next episode. I was like...WTF.

Looking forward to the finale episodes, it will be a glorious ride!!
 
Man, another awesome episode.

Wednesdays (for me) are awesome, iZombie/Shield/Flash in a row. And all of them are having amazing episodes. And the rest of season promo actually showed the big spoiler from last week wow!

Can I click that major spoiler a few pages back yet?

If you watched the promo then yes.
 
promo spoilers

I'm assuming the body they are exhuming is the real Harrison Wells.. bit strange he would bury it, and not dissolve it in some acid.
 
HOLY SHIT AT THE OPENING.

That's two shows with legit amazing openings. WOW.

WHAT! WHAT, WHAT, WHAT. I'm legit shook at the RF revelation. The moment he removed his hood, I nearly fell off my chair...

I wonder though, where's the Barry that travelled back to stop RF? Trapped in a different timeline that Gideon doesn't have access to?

Trickster was amazing. Loved it, but I kept getting Joker vibes from Hamill thouugh. I just couldn't tune it out.

Axel, I am your father. Oh my god, the delivery and Hamill's face afterwards. Oh god, I couldn't stop laughing.

Okay, so Barry can now phase through shit? There's literally no way there isn't going to be a reset to his powers by seasons end, the guy is so OP right now that literally no one is any kind of threat...
 
Oh and btw, Flash's streak is read, not yellow.. Which is why Iris dubbed him the red streak in earlier episodes. In close ups you can see some yellow lightning but when zoomed out it looks like a glowing red. RF has yellow streaks when running. I know it's supposed to be the other way around (comics and animation) but it appears red.

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The pics aren't showing up for me but this is wrong. In this last episode alone you can see in the beginning that RF has red electricity and the flash has yellow.
 
I must watch too much Fringe because when RF first took off his mask, my first thought was "oh, Thawne used to have a different face. They've hinted that he was a different person before, and Thawne doesn't mind killing people. That makes sense." It didn't even occur to me that the show was trying to bait and switch.

Also, do people seriously like the shitty Star Wars references? They made me cringe so much.
 
Not sure if this is true or not, but I think I heard that Mark Hamill's original Trickster on the old Flash show was what got him the role of Joker in the Batman animated series.

That's pretty damn cool if true.

I figured he was just channelling Joker as he's so used to doing it, but this makes it extra cool and a nice callback to his original appearance in the old show.
 
How many more Eli Stone cast members can they get to show up?

Tom Cavanagh, Victor Garber, and now Matt Letscher.

Man I miss Eli Stone.
 
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?
 
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?

I'm guessing time accounts for "duplicates", and considers Barrys a day apart duplicates, but not Barrys 15 years apart? Or maybe he forced the Barry he replaced into the Speed Force.
 
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?

Probably a speedforce thing. Young Barry has no connection to it whatsoever.
 
Yes, because it's Luke Skywalker making them. I was hoping for Joker references, too.

That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
 
That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
Don't you mean a few months?
 
I still don't understand how time travel works in this show. Based after how Barry went back in time after the tidal wave I always thought he replaced his current self so to speak. With that in mind shouldn't Barry also replace his child self and kid Barry would have that knowledge up until the tidal wave?

Another theory I'll toss out is that to replace the current version, you have to stop moving (aka exiting the speed force) and from what we saw future Barry never did stop.
 
That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
For me, there is no differentiation. Like, despite his talents and various roles, Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker, so if I see him playing someone else, I see Luke Skywalker as that character. So it's Hamill as Skywalker as James Jesse. It also doesn't help that he was also kind of using his Joker voice the whole time.

For him in particular, it's even worse, since Luke is his only major role.
 
IGN

I don’t even know what the purpose of reviewing TV is after watching this episode. “Tricksters” featured, among many other things, Mark Hamill playing a costumed supervillain and uttering the line “I am your father.” The Flash has essentially won television at this point.
Needless to say, this was a really enjoyable episode. We saw the show at its most campy and comic book-y with the two Tricksters (Hamill and Davon Graye), but we also saw moments of real darkness and solemnity as the true nature of Harrison Wells was further illuminated. The end result was a real jam-packed installment that reinforces the idea that The Flash, when it’s firing on all cylinders, can do superhero TV better than anyone.

9.1

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/01/the-flash-tricksters-review
 
Oh fuck yes. I hope Hamill returns and also becomes part of the rogues that little sidekick of his was terrible, I hope that guy doesn't become the trickster.
 
That just makes it worse, no? The whole time you're trying to tell yourself he's James Jesse, not Luke Skywalker or Joker. Then he's like haha, remember that time I was Luke Skywalker? And it's like duh, now let me enjoy the show I'm here for. I'll watch you be Skywalker again on the big screen in a few years.
You're such a party pooper.

Watch they make a little joke about how his apprentice will take on a different name and be like... "The Joker" ha I would laugh my butt off.
 
Hamill hams it up so well and its glorious, the only thing for me that would have made it better was for him to actually dress in one of his old outfits (even if for only the "I am your father" scene :P) - i know it wouldn't look quite right but i would have loved a full on trickster/cock knocker dress up :D.

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All in all though, i thought Out of Time was going to be a tough episode to beat, Tricksters not only beat it, it all kicked it a few times and then stole its lunch money - LOVED IT.
 
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