Thunder Monkey
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*dances*
I love it when my natural pessimism is thrown back at me like "Not today monkey!"
I can't believe just how much I hated this episode. How the fuck do you even top that?!
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I love it when my natural pessimism is thrown back at me like "Not today monkey!"
I can't believe just how much I hated this episode. How the fuck do you even top that?!
BKatastrophe
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Man that episode was sick. Mark Hamill giving me those classic chills. "Run run run run RUN!" And Thawne talking him through the Speed Force...magnificent. Truly magnificent.
10/10 would Speed Force again
10/10 would Speed Force again
I do hope they bring him back, he did an amazing job. I would love to see him on Arrow too.
Miles Quaritch
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Was that the speed force? I'll have to watch it again, but I didn't see a portal like at the beginning of the episode or when Barry time traveled a couple of episodes ago.
BKatastrophe
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The Speed Force is where Barry and Thawne's powers are derived from. Thawne literally tells Barry to use the Speed Force. It might as well have been Obi-Wan talking to Luke, if Obi-Wan had killed Luke's parents after traveling through time.
well, he thought he had killed one >_>
Speed Force isn't like a portal or anything it's basically just the general name for the source of his powers.
BKatastrophe
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I don't wanna talk about it
Miles Quaritch
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Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up! I thought the speed force was gaining access to time travel speeds and everything is just his stock power set.
Sometimes you get the idea he is just a kid that owns a toy store if you see all the comic stuff he does and wants to do.
Freewheelin'
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God, how good was that Speed Force speech? Definitely one of my favourite moments of the season. Does anyone have a transcript of it?
So the 'real Wells' reveal was pretty stupid, right? I mean, it didn't seem like it amounted to anything at all.
Barry makes it very clear that almost nothing is known about Wells...so it's not like the character's history was important. Heck, Wells hadn't even fully come up with a name for his company, and hadn't invented anything, or created the facility, so it's not like Thawne was taking over an existing operation. The one connection they showed Wells having, they killed off, so it's not like Thawne needed to fool anyone.
And then, they showed the transformation scene, showed that he took the guy's face...but still felt like that final scene would have any effect? We already know he stole his identity...the overly dramatic standing up and the "my name is Harrison Wells" carried nothing.
Loved the episode, found the flashback scenes to be completely worthless, other than telling us that he needs the Speed Force to get back to his time...but that was already more or less established.
Also, Barry's carrying a bomb, has to phase through something to drop it...so he chooses a tanker truck? Not only is it one of the most explosive things in all of hollywood, but for his first phasing, he goes for a massively complex construction, instead of a single-material solid wall?
Barry makes it very clear that almost nothing is known about Wells...so it's not like the character's history was important. Heck, Wells hadn't even fully come up with a name for his company, and hadn't invented anything, or created the facility, so it's not like Thawne was taking over an existing operation. The one connection they showed Wells having, they killed off, so it's not like Thawne needed to fool anyone.
And then, they showed the transformation scene, showed that he took the guy's face...but still felt like that final scene would have any effect? We already know he stole his identity...the overly dramatic standing up and the "my name is Harrison Wells" carried nothing.
Loved the episode, found the flashback scenes to be completely worthless, other than telling us that he needs the Speed Force to get back to his time...but that was already more or less established.
Also, Barry's carrying a bomb, has to phase through something to drop it...so he chooses a tanker truck? Not only is it one of the most explosive things in all of hollywood, but for his first phasing, he goes for a massively complex construction, instead of a single-material solid wall?
Much like Batman's Preptime.
The new Wells did exactly what the old Wells did. He just moved up the time table. He is adamant about not messing up with the timeline too much so it would make sense for him to copy everything Wells did.
It is a book end, it is the moment he has rewritten history.
It tells us who Wells is, it tells us Thawne isn't actually Cavanaugh, it tells us the backstory was correct.
An isolated truck or the wall of a building? Which would be the best thing to blow up?
I lov Prison Break. Even its flaws. Seeing the brothers back together got me all giddy. And T-bag was on the Flash as well!
Yeah but not the Flash however, so far most of their jokes are well written, timed correctly with connection. Wells saying Star Wars reference lines would just be weird.
Well you guys missed out. It was a fun show and that was a tiny bit before my time.
Ignatz Mouse
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Poodlestrike
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Eh. Not so good this week.
What? Shit is golden.
First, these got me starting off:
And this convo was great:
So I was *this* close to giving up on the Flash about five or so episodes ago, and I'm glad I didn't. The main storyline(s) strengths are starting to show and it's becoming an incredible tale—
. BUT, the villain(s) of the week are becoming unbearably bad. I hope they start to deviate a bit from their inclusion and just focus more on the core story. This latest villain (The Trickster) has to be one of the worst across all the superhero shows.
[EDIT] I should clarify, I like Hammil. I don't like the kid.
mostly since the inclusion of time travel
[EDIT] I should clarify, I like Hammil. I don't like the kid.
Ignatz Mouse
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Still some gems.
brotkasten
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I loved this one for some reason.
BronsonLee
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I fucking loved this
Napoleonthechimp
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I was thinking "how would Eobard know what to call it if he couldn't hear that conversation". Oh wait, future knowledge.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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This one cracked me up
I thought last weeks episode was ok, but this weeks episode was awesome. Me and my wife were geeking out so hard over all of the 90's Flash references, and of course, Hamil. Fuck this is such a fun show. I love how the villain's aren't afraid to ham shit the fuck up. Captain Cold and Heatwave, and now Trickster, are just damn over the top and fun.
I love the cheesy moments of the show, it's like a great throwback to the Silver Age of comics, and not the overly grimdark shit like Arrow and every other superhero show out there (except for Agent Carter, which is awesome as well).
I can't wait for the next episode. This is probably one of the best, most fully realized first seasons of a superhero show I've seen. It really does The Flash and his universe justice.
I love the cheesy moments of the show, it's like a great throwback to the Silver Age of comics, and not the overly grimdark shit like Arrow and every other superhero show out there (except for Agent Carter, which is awesome as well).
I can't wait for the next episode. This is probably one of the best, most fully realized first seasons of a superhero show I've seen. It really does The Flash and his universe justice.
Jorok Goldblade
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Just a thought on Time Travel - what if Barry doesn't save his mom? Maybe that's who he defeats Reverse Flash. Barry escaped back to his own time, but Zoom was stuck in the past. Maybe its the same Zoom, trapped in a time loop forever.
The ONLY real negative about this episode is, surprise surprise, the Iris stuff. This whole "Iris cannot find out" thing was already annoying and tedious. But now, she's the ONLY main character who doesn't know and they're deliberately LYING to her, no just no. And they're using the tired/lame "we need to protect her" cliché, AND dragging poor Eddie into it (I'm glad that he seems uncomfortable with the idea at least), which makes it even worse. Also, Iris looks like a complete idiot for so easily swallowing that incredibly flimsy "explanation" that Eddie gave her.
Man, these writers really don't know how to write "main" female love interests to save their lives.
Man, these writers really don't know how to write "main" female love interests to save their lives.
Jorok Goldblade
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Standard operating procedure for the CW is to make female romantic leads as bland and lacking in personality as possible so that female fans can use them as a template to project themselves onto. It's why Smallville got better when Lana left the show and they were forced to upgrade a character with a defined personality to romantic lead.
brotkasten
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And that's the reason why characters like Laurel, Felicity or Iris get so much hate and I'm baffled why some people can't see it. The script or story needs them to act like totally brain damaged beings, in a way no normal human would act. The character gets dumbed down, because DRAMA and it's infuriating and irritating.
A lot less than Smallville that's for sure.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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Secret identities suck everyone always finds out anyway
also no Flash or Arrow for 2 week I hate breaks
also no Flash or Arrow for 2 week I hate breaks
The Technomancer
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Honestly, it was really effecting for me. It was the best event yet at really making me hate Thawne as a villain.
Finally caught up. First, I think I may be really close to correct with my predictions about where the overall story arc was going regarding Thawne and Wells. Second, it's nice to see that Iris may actually get a real story arc that doesn't involve alienating one of Barry's love interests, being the center of his attention, or having him the center of hers.
Ignatz Mouse
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I sure hope at this point it's intentionally leading up to her finding out and having a huge negative reaction.
Poodlestrike
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It also did a good job of differentiating between Original Thawne and Modern Thawne; the original article is even more psychotic than the one we're familiar with. Compare the difference between the delivery on the two "been dead for centuries" lines.
Not sure how or if that'll end up being important yet, but hey, Time Travel!
dead
The real question was how all of Clark's friends were not drooling vegetables for the amount of times they were knocked unconscious so they could script in him using super powers
PHOENIXZERO
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I've wondering about that for years. They abused the shit out of it didn't they?
Lana should have been in a wheelchair long before the conclusion. The writers straight fucked that character up on numerous occasions.
Why? He's from the future!
His original plan was probably
to use the DNA swapping device to take over Barry's mom's appearance
and was trapped in the past
used his DNA swapping device on OG Wells, and improvised
Delta Assault
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They and 24 were definitely the worst offenders I've ever seen.
The Cowboy
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I don't think I've re-watched an episode of a show so many times in such a short period of time, I've watched it 5 times in 2 days - i just love it.
Also me and my daughter agree on something, as much as I like Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash (i don't call him Harrison Wells now
), i really want them to do something at some point (reverse the transformation somehow) to make him revert to his old self and have Matt Letscher take on the role.
Matt Letscher as Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash had a much more creepy vibe and he really made him much more menacing looking, I think he was just about perfect for the role and has Eobard Thawne down to a T.
Also me and my daughter agree on something, as much as I like Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash (i don't call him Harrison Wells now
), i really want them to do something at some point (reverse the transformation somehow) to make him revert to his old self and have Matt Letscher take on the role.Matt Letscher as Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash had a much more creepy vibe and he really made him much more menacing looking, I think he was just about perfect for the role and has Eobard Thawne down to a T.
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