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Bloodborne |OT+++| ...and so the Nightly Hunt continues

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super-famicom said:
Hmm, opened a door in a Loran Chalice Dugeon and a dozen summoned spiders (from a bell maiden) rushed me, they were basically walking into the door while I opened it. Unfair.
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Had the same thing happen before. Another door was a wolf immediately attacking.
 
Papercuts said:
Had the same thing happen before. Another door was a wolf immediately attacking.
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I have a giant werewolf in the room before the spiders, when I fight it the spiders come rushing in. Fuckers can chase me all the way to the lamp. The bell maiden is 2 rooms away, but there's another giant werewolf in the room right before her...
 
The boss in the choir,
Ebrietas
is some huge bullshit.

Ridiculous turn speed -I guess they heard the people complaining about DS2 and decided to say 'fuck em'-, huge radial attacks, and a telegraphied attack that will still hit you if you don't dodge precisely.

Besides the boss inflicts the always funny frenzy effect, that keeps filling up even after one hit.

May do some chalice dungeons and return for her later because fuck this, this is just stupid design.
 
One shot Micolash, though I spent 10-15 min getting lost trying to figure out how to get to him in phase 2.

then

one shot Wet Nurse as well. WTF does this game get easier right before the end? I also did Castle Cainhurst, and THAT boss was tough. Amygdala in frontier was easy though. Now just gonna knock out the two bosses in upper cathedral ward before taking down the endgame 2.
 
ElFly said:
The boss in the choir,
Ebrietas
is some huge bullshit.

Ridiculous turn speed -I guess they heard the people complaining about DS2 and decided to say 'fuck em'-, huge radial attacks, and a telegraphied attack that will still hit you if you don't dodge precisely.

Besides the boss inflicts the always funny frenzy effect, that keeps filling up even after one hit.

May do some chalice dungeons and return for her later because fuck this, this is just stupid design.
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Definitely one of the most difficult fights in the game for me. Wear some Frenzy resistant armor and
attack her head.
 
I saw a lot of people listing M
ergo's Wet Nurse
as a favorite boss and I wondered why, since I thought she was one of the stupider, more trivial bosses (and there is a lot of competition here in the second half of the game, from my experience). All she ever did was flail directly in front of her and eat L2 greatsword attacks from behind. Then I looked her up on a wiki and learned that it actually does stuff I never saw because Ludwig's Holy Blade even stupider than the Hunter's Axe in PVE.
 
super-famicom said:
I have a giant werewolf in the room before the spiders, when I fight it the spiders come rushing in. Fuckers can chase me all the way to the lamp. The bell maiden is 2 rooms away, but there's another giant werewolf in the room right before her...
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Just killed the bell maiden! There were two...
 
Sparrowhawk said:
This. I beat the game with the Tonitrus and I still love it, but I didn't know that the Holy Blade had such insane goddamn stat scaling. I have 30 Strength and 40 Arcane so I could've been doing so much more damage!



You can come back.
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Oh wow, STR and Arcane huh? Most people went for STR or Skill or a STR/Skill combination... I am curious, what level are you and what is your stat points distribution in the end?

Also what kind of weapon setups do you most favor? What do you consider as the easiest/hardest boss to fight against with that kind of setup? Sorry for the questions :)
 
Laughing Banana said:
Oh wow, STR and Arcane huh? Most people went for STR or Skill or a STR/Skill combination... I am curious, what level are you and what is your stat points distribution in the end?

Also what kind of weapon setups do you most favor? What do you consider as the easiest/hardest boss to fight against with that kind of setup? Sorry for the questions :)
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My first character has Str/Skill/Arcane around 30 to 40 each. Ludwig plus the enchant is so damn good.
 
MWN is indeed awesome. First time I beat her she never did any of her cool moves! I thought it was a shitty boss. Then I played against her 2 or 3 more times.

Oh and does anyone else just LOVE posts from people who claim a boss's design is shitty because they can't beat it? "All the other bosses were okay but THIS ONE is just bad design!" I swear every boss has at least a dozen posts from people claiming that about them :lol
 
MegaKungFuRadio said:
I saw a lot of people listing M
ergo's Wet Nurse
as a favorite boss and I wondered why, since I thought she was one of the stupider, more trivial bosses (and there is a lot of competition here in the second half of the game, from my experience). All she ever did was flail directly in front of her and eat L2 greatsword attacks from behind. Then I looked her up on a wiki and learned that it actually does stuff I never saw because Ludwig's Holy Blade even stupider than the Hunter's Axe in PVE.
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Could be related to the memory leak bug/whatever that glitches out boss AI and makes them really stupid (only do a few moves). Was your PS4 on for a long time, even in rest/suspend mode? Same thing happened to me on NG but then the NG+ fight was a lot more interesting.
 
catspit said:
Can someone explain to me how chalice dungeons work? What lvl can they be done at? I'm level 40...
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Uh, there's a Chalice Dungeon guide in the OP. I'll repost it since no one ever reads the OP.

Beginner's Guide to Starting Chalice Dungeons

Alright, I've never done something like this, but I'll try to keep it concise and to the point for anyone asking questions about chalice dungeons. If I miss anything important, and I probably will, let me know. Please don't laugh at my pitiful attempt.

What are Chalice Dungeons?

Chalice Dungeons are optional content you can start doing as soon as you receive your first from the Blood-starved Beast. I would recommend starting them as soon as you can, because if you wait until end game, you will end up going through the earlier depth dungeons at a much higher level than intended.

Chalice Dungeons come in several forms: Standard, Root, Sinister, and Defiled.

Standard dungeons can be thought of as the "story" portion of the content. You will need to do these first to obtain better chalices and progress. These are pre-made dungeons by the devs that always have the same loot and bosses.

Root dungeons are randomized in layout, loot, and bosses. This is where you will find things such as uncanny weapons, runes, and powerful gems.

Sinister dungeons are a variant of root dungeons. These dungeons contain bell maidens that summon other players to invade your dungeon. IIRC, these must be purchased inside a standard dungeon of the same depth.

Defiled, well, I think there is only the one, and it is required that you do it while progressing. This cuts your HP in half, and is in my opinion, the most challenging.

In addition, the higher level chalices will require materials that you need to gather inside specific chalices. Eventually, you will be able to purchase most of these through the insight vendor. There are also additional rites that require rare materials found in chalice dungeons. These basically make the dungeon more difficult by spawning certain enemy types or buffing them in some sort of way. I believe the purpose is for better loot, because these enemies generally drop high level gems.

How do I start?

Simply go to any altar and choose to create a chalice. You will also be able to use other players codes at an altar to enter their chalice. You can remove these from your altars at any time, so you have plenty of room to store several favorites if you like sharing. Don't bother sharing standard dungeons, though, as these are the same for everyone.

When inside, your goal is to find lever on each layer to delve deeper. Sometimes in the hallway between layers, you will find a side dungeon. These side dungeons are generally more lucrative, and you will want to do them for the materials that you can find inside chests, especially in Root dungeons. Each layer ends with a boss, and the first 2 are usually pretty easy. Sometimes, the dungeons can go up to 4 layers, with 4 bosses.

Watch out for illusory walls. You will notice some walls seem out of place, and you can attack them to reveal the illusion. You can leave at any point, and your progress is always saved. You won't have to redo bosses, but enemies will respawn.

Why Do Chalice Dungeons?

There are several reasons I would recommend doing them.

1. Some of the best, and most challenging bosses, only appear in there, especially the final boss.
2. Uncanny and lost weapons.
3. HIgh level gems.
4. High level runes.
5. Key Items you can use in the main game, for example, a ring that allows you to propose to the Vileblood Queen.
6. Apparently NPC's are inside, so if you like lore stuff there's that. I've seen spider-patches inside and talked to him.
7. Well, I think it's fun.

Common Questions

How do I use the Makeshift Altar and what is it for? You need a key item to use it from I believe, Hintertomb Depth 3. It's for quick searching co-op and pvp in chalice dungeons, and also for finding a random dungeon for you to do.

What is depth? Depth is like a tier of difficulty. D1 is very easy, and D2 is not much more difficult. D3 ramps it up a bit to about level 60ish I'd say at the very least. D4 is about NG+ and D5 is a bit higher than that.

How do I get X Chalice? 3 of them are from the main story, and they drop from these bosses: Blood-starved Beast, Ebreitas, and Amygdala. The first Hintertomb chalice is looted in Pthumeru Depth 2. Any other chalice will come from progressing through the "story".

What is the difference between uncanny, lost and normal weapons? They have different gem slots.

What happens to my chalice dungeons when I start NG+? Nothing. They will remain as they were and you will lose nothing. Think of them are being completely separate from the main game.

I tried to use a chalice glyph but it says I don't meet the requirements, what do? You need to create and finish the dungeon type you are searching for first before you can join another. I don't think you need to finish Root dungeons to join random ones.
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OddMorsel said:
MWN is indeed awesome. First time I beat her she never did any of her cool moves! I thought it was a shitty boss. Then I played against her 2 or 3 more times.

Oh and does anyone else just LOVE posts from people who claim a boss's design is shitty because they can't beat it? "All the other bosses were okay but THIS ONE is just bad design!" I swear every boss has at least a dozen posts from people claiming that about them :lol
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To be fair like 75% of BB bosses are poorly designed and uninteresting.
 
OddMorsel said:
MWN is indeed awesome. First time I beat her she never did any of her cool moves! I thought it was a shitty boss. Then I played against her 2 or 3 more times.

Oh and does anyone else just LOVE posts from people who claim a boss's design is shitty because they can't beat it? "All the other bosses were okay but THIS ONE is just bad design!" I swear every boss has at least a dozen posts from people claiming that about them :lol
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But
Ebrietas
IS bad design though...
 
OddMorsel said:
MWN is indeed awesome. First time I beat her she never did any of her cool moves! I thought it was a shitty boss. Then I played against her 2 or 3 more times.

Oh and does anyone else just LOVE posts from people who claim a boss's design is shitty because they can't beat it? "All the other bosses were okay but THIS ONE is just bad design!" I swear every boss has at least a dozen posts from people claiming that about them :lol
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I agree. Frustration leads to people misjudging things so much.

I should know, I used to do it quite a bit with Ninja Gaiden back when I was a scrub. Then I got good.
 
Sparrowhawk said:
Definitely one of the most difficult fights in the game for me. Wear some Frenzy resistant armor and
attack her head.
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I've been trying to do that; also, using the gun to get her to do the head attack so I can wtfpwn her.

But once I get her under 40% too many things can go deeply wrong and she just ends up killing me either of frenzy, or with the lazors. Running low on sedatives and the lecture hall guys only drop one every other time.
 
This is awesome:

bloodborne_rough_sketch_by_menaslg-d892ou3.png
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He has some great pieces on his page:

http://menaslg.deviantart.com/
 
VinFTW said:
To be fair like 75% of BB bosses are poorly designed and uninteresting.
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I disagree. I think it's on easily on par with Demons/Dark 1 as far as interesting bosses go. Perhaps more so because it feels more like a 1 v 1 duel scenario then the previous games.

Laughing Banana said:
Feel free to answer the same questions as well :D

I am honestly very curious!
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Weapon setup wise, I always just carried a backup Hunter's Axe for the charged R2. Used the Hunter's Pistol until I got Ludwig's Rifle and just stayed with that.

With this setup, the hardest bosses are something like Father G, where you can only get a few hits off. So the main advantage of Ludwig's Holy Blade, it's 2H, is kind of useless because you have to stay in 1h form due to the slow attack speed of the 2h form.

Also, subbed in Logarious Wheel near the end. Great heavy moveset on that weapon.

Edit: The benefit of this setup is that some bosses get absolutely wrecked. I killed Darkbeast Paarl in about 10-15 because a charged Ludwig strike followed by a basic combo got him down to half.
 
meanspartan said:
One shot Micolash, though I spent 10-15 min getting lost trying to figure out how to get to him in phase 2.

then

one shot Wet Nurse as well. WTF does this game get easier right before the end? I also did Castle Cainhurst, and THAT boss was tough. Amygdala in frontier was easy though. Now just gonna knock out the two bosses in upper cathedral ward before taking down the endgame 2.
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I thought M
icolash
was some kind of joke. I didn't think it could get easier than WOH, but boy was I wrong.

Had the same experience with
Wet Nurse
too, though I had a friend who had to summon me to get past it and despite that he kept dying to her.
 
koshunter said:
You know how some houses allow you to talk to NPCs as indicated by an orange light in the window?

Find any house and talk to the NPC. They should give you a Tonsil Stone (you might already have it). There's two houses near that area that you can go back to and check out. Right near where there were two hunters.
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When do they give it to you? When I knock now in that area, all I get are wild screams.

Just beat VA and then BSB, by the way.
 
Absolutely annihilated
Amylgada. Two blasts to the head with my Cannon, followed by me hacking up her head/legs with Electric paper powered Axe R2 charge spins. She was dead in what felt like no time at all. Definitely the easiest boss yet.
 
It's interesting to look at the trophies so far and see how many people who bought it can actually complete it

Only 25% so far have beaten
rom
so far
 
Laughing Banana said:
Oh wow, STR and Arcane huh? Most people went for STR or Skill or a STR/Skill combination... I am curious, what level are you and what is your stat points distribution in the end?

Also what kind of weapon setups do you most favor? What do you consider as the easiest/hardest boss to fight against with that kind of setup? Sorry for the questions :)
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I'm always happy to answer questions! This may sound silly, but my first character was more of a guinea pig than anything. Stat distribution is all over the place. I believe he's 112 right now. What I basically did was get Vitality and Endurance to 30, then I got every other stat as high as it needed to be for me to use every weapon and tool in the game. I did this so that I could decide on a build for my current character.

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Here is the stat page for my first character, aka the guinea pig. Going for a Dex build with my second character this time around!

As far as weapons, I used the Saw Spear for the first half of the game until I found the Tonitrus. I usually favor quick weapons over heavy, strong ones. For my left hand I used the Blunderbuss for most of the game along with the Hunter's Torch for dark areas.
 
OddMorsel said:
Hell no, it's a great fight. The only unfortunate part is that she doesn't know how to deal with a particular tactic.
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What?
Grabbing her ass
? I honestly only had trouble with one of her moves,
the magic laser
, which murdered me twice.
 
Didn't do much in the game today. Finished up NF with a one-shot A
mygdala
battle and went through all the motions with A
lfred's
quest line. Did a tiny bit of Byrgenwerth, but the
hunter
inside did me in at the clutch right before I had to head off for work. I'll probably get around to it tomorrow evening if I'm not comatose from the nights and days shifts back to back coupled with the hypoglycemic headaches.
 
Steel said:
What?
Grabbing her ass
? I honestly only had trouble with one of her moves,
the magic laser
, which murdered me twice.
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Yes. If you do that, she only has one move that can reliably hurt you—the one that murdered you twice.
 
Endgame question: when should I
consume three umbilical cords in order to get the moon presence to appear?
 
ElFly said:
I've been trying to do that; also, using the gun to get her to do the head attack so I can wtfpwn her.

But once I get her under 40% too many things can go deeply wrong and she just ends up killing me either of frenzy, or with the lazors. Running low on sedatives and the lecture hall guys only drop one every other time.
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Ah, I understand. This is a pretty cheesy strategy, but I beat her by doing what you said and then
getting between her two "tails". I might have gotten lucky, but it seemed like the only thing she could do to counter this was turning around to face me. I just ran back and wailed on her until she died.
 
Bishop89 said:
so i beat the
blood starved beast
, went back to the church, went outside.. new enemy that i have never seen before shows up... kind of a grim reaper looking one... kills me... cutscene.. now I'm
in an prison?
Is this supposed to happen?
Am i screwed?
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Heh. Same here.
Sparrowhawk said:
It's not supposed to happen, per se, but it can. You aren't screwed, though.
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What does that even mean "supposed to happen"? I'll find out as I continue along the story I guess.
Bishop89 said:
Thanks guys..
well... I wont be leaving till I slay that boss 8)
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Heh. Mr.2HKO? Only if certain things happen.
koshunter said:
You can go back there, however: (slight spoilers)
after a certain story event, the area is drastically different.
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Is the insane difficulty a sign that I shouldn't be here? And does it befit me in anyway to kill the boss here anyway. As many eons as that would take.
 
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